Origin: Innisvaddie Annie

Subject: Lyr Add: INNISVADDIE ANNIE
From: Stewie
Date: 11 Jun 03 - 07:11 PM

I intend to use 'Innisvaddie Annie' for a presentation, but I have no information about it at all. Is it Sots or Irish, traditional or recently composed? Any information will be welcomed. A Net search only unearthed a track listing for an English group called LongNote. I have emailed a couple of members of that group (and one has returned as undeliverable) - the page for their album was 1997, so they may have disappeared from the scene. Anyhow, these are the lyrics:

INNISVADDIE ANNIE

Up the winding river
In by Innisvaddie
Annie's got a baby
That hasn't got a daddy

Who the baby's father is
Annie wouldn't say
But some think that it's Thomas's
And some think that it's Shane's

Up the winding river
The bonnie little baby
Oh it's dandled and it's cuddled close
By Innisvaddie Annie

Who the baby's father is
Annie wouldn't say
But nobody expected it
With Annie's quiet ways

Up the winding river
The country folk are kind
And who the baby's father is
I'm sure they don't mind

But, oh the bairn at Annie's breast
And the love in Annie's eye
It makes me wish with all my heart
The bonnie bairn was mine

Up the winding river
In by Innisvaddie
Annie's got a baby
That hasn't got a daddy

Who the baby's father is
Annie wouldn't say
But nobody expected it
With Annie's quiet ways

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Help required - 'Innisvaddie Annie'
From: MartinRyan
Date: 11 Jun 03 - 08:04 PM

Len Graham sings it. I have a vague memory that his wife (Padraigin Ni hUallachain) set the tune to it - I'll check.

Regards

Subject: RE: Help required - 'Innisvaddie Annie'
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Jun 03 - 08:33 PM

Lyr Add: Up the Noran Water would appear to be very closely related.

Subject: RE: Help required - 'Innisvaddie Annie'
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Jun 03 - 08:54 PM

And:
Help: Loran Water
Shy Geordie
And in Lyr Req: innisvaddie annie , John Moulden summarises:
Words adapted by Len Graham from a poem "Shy Geordie" by the Scottish poet Helen Cruickshank (1886-1975) and set to music by Padragín Ní Uallacháin. Sung by her husband Len Graham on the album "Skylark" (Claddagh 4CC46). Len calls it Innisvaddy Annie.

Subject: RE: Help required - 'Innisvaddie Annie'
From: Stewie
Date: 11 Jun 03 - 09:22 PM

Many thanks, Noreen and Martin. I did put 'Innisvaddie' into the forum search before posting, but came up with zilch - one of those mysterious glitches, I suppose.

It looks like the text I posted is a non-dialect reworking of the poem. It was given to me by Phil Beck of Perth (Oz) who had no idea of how he came by it. How does it compare with Len Graham's text? Years ago, I gave Phil a couple of Len Graham's solo LPs and he was enthused by them - he may have bought the relevant Skylark album and learned the song from there, and then forgot.

I want to use it for a presentation I am working on, and segue it with an unusual version of 'Katy Cruel' that was posted to the forum, suggesting that a baby was the cause of Katy's troubles.

Once again, thanks.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Origin: Innisvaddie Annie
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Jan 24 - 03:29 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Origin: Innisvaddie Annie
From: GUEST,Lang Johnnie More
Date: 29 Jan 24 - 04:40 PM

Probably the best known Scottish version , sung by the much-missed Jim Ried :

https://youtu.be/Wg-RNbXE6YU?si=8gIMp39N55ILztV-

Subject: RE: Origin: Innisvaddie Annie
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Feb 24 - 12:42 PM

I heard this sung by Margaret Nelson of Phil Cooper & Margaret Nelson. I believe she said it was written by a Scots woman named Helen something.

Subject: RE: Origin: Innisvaddie Annie
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 01 Feb 24 - 12:52 PM

I learned "Up the Noran Water" from Jean Redpath, on "A Fine Song for Singing." The liner notes are minimal, but credit it to H. Cruikshank and J. Reid. I am quite sure that no field collection has ever been printed, although there might be one in some unprinted archive somewhere.