Tech: Hunt the Mudcat

Subject: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 02:10 AM

I have been unable to mudcat for a day or so - server not found - so I guess the cat has been down. However, there are I think still several mirrors and someone was putting something on the "welcome back" thread a week or so back about a different way to Mudcat I'd never heard of before.

Could we have a complete list here of the different mudcat sites and ways to get up when there are technical problems?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: darkriver
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 02:26 AM

Richard,

Max had a fire that fried his main server.
If you have trouble connecting to Mudcat via the usual methods, you can always try http://help.mudcat.org/threads.cfm.

This will get you a page with some explanation.

HTH.

doug

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 06:11 AM

Those links not useful.

I think I remember the following mirror sites, but noe seem to wark for me today, might be my memory.

zappa.mudcat.org
ragtime.mudcat.org
shorty.mudcat.org
taj.mudcat.org
tao.mudcat.org

Is there somewhere I can get a list of the mudcat mirrors for when one goes down?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 06:44 AM

Aren't they just the names of Max's servers? And probably obsolete as he is down to using a different one he's just built?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 06:59 AM

Richard I think the only machine serving the mudcat forum at the moment is 207.103.108.105. Names on that machine include:

www, taj, tao, shorty, loki and ragtime. Zappa does not exist.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: Max
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:30 AM

There are no mirrors now. They all died. Can't run a mirror offsite because the data that we create each time we post can't be hosted in more than one place. Its the nature of database driven sites and real time sites like this.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:49 AM

Another point maybe worth remembering is that, when the Cat goes down for over a day, all the threads vanish from the screen, until they are individually refreshed.

Sometimes this isn't such a bad idea, but anyway you can always put all of them them up on your screen, to remind you if there are any you want to chase them up, by adjusting the Refresh button from its default of "one day" to "three days" or whatever is appropriate.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:58 AM

Thanks

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 11:09 AM

That's what I always do McGrath. It takes a while to catch up with them all, but it's not too bad. After all, there are big gaps where no-one has been able to post.

Every night when I finish on Mudcat, I make a note of where I was up to by going to "messages since last visit" on the quick links menu and clicking on "now" to set the time of my last visit, so I will know where to start looking next time. Also, I always put a tracer on any thread I want to keep a track of, as soon as I read it.

Jenny

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 11:28 AM

Sometimes, the Yet Another Digital Tradition page is referred to as a Digital Tradition or Mudcat "mirror." That's not technically correct because it's not an exact duplicate, but it does serve as an emergency backup for people who need information from the Digital Tradition's 1999 edition. It also is able to convert the Digital Tradition into a number of tune formats.

Those who have foresight can download our current (2002) edition of
the Digital Tradition at our download page.

Sometimes in the past after we've been down, there have been well-meaning individuals who have refreshed every thread from the day before the outage (by posting a new message to each and every damn thread). I think the consensus is that this tactic is obnoxious. It's best to revive only those thread you have a real interest in. The best way to revive a thread is to post a new message that contains additional information. If you have no new information, you can put just "refresh" in the message body - but again, remember that people thing that the wholesale refreshing of threads is annoying.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Tech: Hunt the Mudcat
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 12:10 PM

I think the only thread I refreshed this time was my grandma thread, but then I have a personal interest in it:-)

Jenny