BS: Anyone for cricket?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:37 PM

Philadelphia Cricket Clubs. We live and learn.

It makes sense of the premise for the Titanic movie,
in which the rich girl was from the Main Line.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 05:10 PM

Also the very first international cricket match was between Canada and the USA in 1844.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 03:13 PM

Around the turn of the century (i.e. 1890 - 1910) cricket was very popular in Philadelphia. Sure it was a class ridden structure, but this was even more true of cricket in England at the time. But it wasn't much known in England or Australia. So in 1893, a strong Australian team stopped in Philadelphia on the way back from a tour of England, and arranged a match with the Gentlemen of Philadelphia, no doubt expecting to demonstrate their skills in a light practice match. The Gentlemen of Philadelphia won by an innings and 68 runs. Sure the Australians won a return fixture, but the Gentlemen of Philadelphia were established as a seriously good team. They toured England in 1897, 1903 and 1908, holding their own or more against the strong county sides of England.

Their star was John Barton (Bart) King, probably the finest fast bowler in the world between 1893 and 1909. On the 1908 tour of England he topped the bowling averages for the season, with an average which would not be bettered for 50 years.

Sadly, after WWI, baseball and tennis began to dominate across the USA, and the great cricket clubs of Philadelphia mostly became tennis clubs.

So if South Asian Immigrants can help re-establish the game , then maybe in the not too distant future a strong, maybe more representative American team will once again tour England, play against county sides, and, who, knows, even the England team.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 09:57 PM

Backwoodsman... so 'attention span' is in our DNA? ☺ Even those of us, like me, with huge lists of ancestors from the UK?

Totally silly to paint several hundred million of us with the same broad brush... but slagging off Americans is almost as popular a hobby as following cricket for some. I can only hope you were just playing the usual 'game'.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 07:08 PM

Cricket is the most popular sport in both India and Pakistan, k...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 06:54 PM

It fascinates me that North America would have cricket brought to it by natives of India and Pakistan!

Consider Canada as well as the U. S. because both countries have many Indian / Paki immigrants.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:43 PM

Bloody hell, I agree with Teribus too!

BillD, there has never been an American born who had an attention-span long enough to watch a cricket match, let alone understand it! 😜😎😄

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 11:18 AM

I sometimes suspect that cricket would not be nearly as fascinating to its fans without its complex 'laws' and the incredible list of jargon that allows insiders to show their knowledge and keeps poor, bewildered Americans from attempting to join the discussion.

I just read the entire thread, and at my advanced age I think I will assume that golfing terms is the limit of what I can cope with.

(I have heard "sticky wicket" used as a term for having a problem situation.... but that's my limit.)

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 10:45 AM

Bloody hell Teribus ............ we agree on something !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Teribus
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 07:46 AM

Doubt if the paying American public would appreciate the subtleties of a game played over three or five days that can end in a draw so many ways.

Still remains as being the most demanding, most complete and best team ever devised by man.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 07:41 AM

I' not sure I understand this thread got a refresh but I've found a scan interesting.

The first thing that strikes me is that I must have been more caught up with cricket in 2003 than I am now and can't remember some things I commented on. Less free to view tv now???

Also of interest to me was our speculations on Michael Vaughan and Graeme Smith as captains and players.

As for "Ravishing Willows", I don't think I'd have got that as cricket although the willow has a long association.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jun 17 - 05:09 PM

Moving right along:

Picked up a local syndicated daily newspaper for one of the Greater Boston Metro exurbs. And was surprised to find, in the sports section, a little story about amateur cricket teams.

The journalist interviewed the founder of the Ravishing Willows. His competition teams have names like the Hoickers, the Daredevils, the Panthers, and the eClinicalWorks (??); they are members of the NECA, the New England Cricket Association .

Said cricket enthusiast left his native India for the United States to work in computer software. He admitted that of all the cricket players he has played with here, he has never met one who was born in the United States, but "that would be great" if a U.S.-born sportsman would join him and his teammates in playing cricket.

Strictly my opinion, but
I think "Ravishing Willows" sounds like a ragtime piano solo composed by Scott Joplin!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 20 May 09 - 11:24 AM

Yep I've seen it and I agree it is sad. A bbc article here

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 May 09 - 10:53 AM

Prefer this.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Lord Oval
Date: 20 May 09 - 10:05 AM

Sad news today, Former England cricketer Chris Lewis has been sentenced to 13 years in jail for smuggling cocaine into Britain in his cricket bag.

He had claimed in his defence that he did not even know cocaine could be converted into the liquid form in which it was discovered in his luggage when he arrived at Gatwick Airport in December last year.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:45 PM

200 Ed Joyce next game.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:44 PM

Les, Petersen slipped my mind, when you look at New Zealand`s Rugby Union team, they should be called the South sea Islanders and Australia Rugby Union have a few outsiders as well, as Jack Charlton said ,"does your granny come from Ireland" your on.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:10 PM

oops sorry Fielding

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:47 PM

Really looking forward to the England New Zealand match. That should be something.

I personnally think the one day series has been excellent. I have seen some excellent cricket, mainly from Australia.

Personally, if you love cricket, you love to see good batting/bowling/fiedling whoever its from.

Come on England, make sure you get in the final.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:38 PM

Cricket? Thanks, no. They're too crunchy and upset my stomach.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 07:31 AM

Yes some of us might have commented on Englands's win but we're still in shock, coupled with the 'muddied oafs' victory over the old enemy and the return of Jonny Wilkinson. Well it'll soon be back to earth with a bump!

Ard Mhacha - I'm sure if Ed Joyce hadn't taken the Saxon Gold, Ireland could have prevailed over Kenya in the ICC tournament. And you forgot Petersen (S Africa) and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinea)!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 05:07 AM

We let the poor old Poms win on Friday to keep them interested.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 11:04 AM

Too busy worrying about the first match in the Six Nations Rugby!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 08:32 AM

I thought some of you UK Cricket lovers might have commented on England`s win over Australia, and more so the two openers, Ed Joyce from Dublin and Malachy Bernard Loye,[a good oul County Down name], so it has come to this, two Irishmen get England away to a solid start and Joyce goes on to score 107.
The England Cricket team is beginning to look like Arsenal, Bopara,Panesar, Shah?.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:04 AM

SOOZ....Not personally keen on cricket as I find it boring (not very English sentiment I know)...but your song about cricket..well now there's a thing. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 03:43 AM

Way hay Muppett, we've just beaten the Windies by 200+ runs. Byeee!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:50 PM

The children's librarians had "eat a bug day" at work yesterday and served chocolate-covered crickets. Anyone who was for a cricket got an "I ate a bug today" certificate.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 06:16 PM

I've not really watched any of this one due to on going PC problems (my computer is also my personal tv) but the reports regarding WI bowling did not read too well to me (that's not to say the earlir England batsmen may not have batted well). Is it true BTW that one bowler came on and with first or second ball bowled so wide that not even 2nd slip could get to it?

One thing my father and I discussed today is what seems to be faster scoring rates. Is some of that down to sloppy bowling? A bowler I used to like for England was Angus Fraser. Maybe not the most deadly but he tended not to give away free hits. It's before my time but my father tells me Statham was a good one who would not give too many free shots. He attributes some of Trueman's record to the pressure Statham put on.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: muppett
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 10:01 AM

Way hay here come the Windies, last 7 English wickets fallen for 41 and now 70 fer 0

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:18 AM

Thanks that Minstrel!
Not so good now we are all out - but the current Michael did get a century.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:39 AM

Sooz
its an ancient English cricketing tradition called "Taking the Mick"

391 for 2! my gast was totally flabberred. Its nice to see Bob Key actually doing something after his rather dismal showing in the One-dayers

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Ooh - Aah
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:36 AM

I'm glad you refreshed - no ideas about 'Michaels', I'm afraid. Isn't it interesting that poor old Ard Mhatchbox or whatever his name is, so vocal before, wasn't the one to refresh this? Poor old thing, his Celtic bitterness must be close to curdling at seeing England do so well - 3-0 in the West Indies (begorrah!) a whitewash of the gutsy Kiwis (ach y fi!) and now 520-3 at Lords (grrr!) Suck on it, you all-green loser!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:22 AM

It's one of Life's Great Imponderables, to which we may never know the true answer - like "What's the meaning of life?", "How did the Universe begin", "Why are fish all called Bob?" or "Why does toast always hit the floor buttered side down?".

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 07:13 AM

Thought I'd refresh this thread as we are doing so well at Lords!
Why are so many England captains called Michael?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 03:34 PM

I'm not sure about that decision. I think I would have carried on but asked the batsmen to throw the bat - "try and hit a couple of 6s and don't worry about it if you get out". As it was, there seemed to me to be a lot of blocking which I felt was time wasting.

Captains, I'd take a guess at Mike Brearley being the most successful in my memory but I'm not sure his playing was up there... It remains to be seen what Vaugh will do but I'm optimistic.

Thinking of Alan Border, was he the one who led Australia out of thier dip?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 02:48 PM

Won't matter now, but if the result had gone the other way, Vaughan's decision to bat for a few overs after Flintoff's departure might have come in for close scrutiny. Have England had anyone who was simultaneously a top-class player and top-class captain since.... Illingworth?? May??? Someone in the Border class, I mean. I was expecting Stewart to carry it off - a magnificent batsman on his day, even though he's a southerner, and in the field he was in the best place to skipper from. Yet somehow it didn't pan out.

All in all, a cracking series. We seem to have had a few in recent years, not foretting the last SA tour.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 12:40 PM

Arnie, that's not reading right to me. Tresco was man of the match and Flintoff was man of the series for England. I also agree with the selections. Smith was SA man of the series, again a fair choice I think, although my own feeling is he got this game wrong - I'd have been boring and defensive and played for the draw when it seemed pretty likely England were going to get somewhere near England's total - as it was they exceeded it in no time...

My other choice for SA would have been Hall but maybe that's just because he was not in the original sqad. He seems a pretty well rounded cricketer to me.

Again, I agree we have been treated to a fantastic series by these teams.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Arnie
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 10:50 AM

Well, I suppose a 2-2 series draw is the right result for two evenly matched teams. Nice for Alec Stewart to go out on a match win. Man of the series for England- Tresco, man of the match - Freddy Flintoff - I even agree with these selections! What an agreeable day all round..and what a great summer's cricket (well most of the time!!) Bring on Bangladesh!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Sooz(at work)
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 08:43 AM

Looking good at the moment......

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 02:05 PM

Congratulate away ard... I don't think you will find anyone (and certainly not from me I hope) objecting to credit given like that...

Flintoff certainly has looked good a couple of times and it is possible that he will prove to be one of our great all rounders. I'd still like to see what happens against Austrailia (in spite of our dissagreements above, I do believe they are the world leaders at the moment) before getting too carried away.

Wichever way this result goes, I think this England side does look promising and I'd back the likes of Flintoff and Anderson to come through and of course we do have some injured bolwers too.

I really think some of the England problem at times is that people don't back thier ability enough, leading to things like famous England batting collapses.

Comparing England to SA, we could pick out for example that we don't (yet) have a bowler of the class of Pollock (300 at around 20 surely puts you at "world class" rather than "just a good test bowler"). It would also be true on the bowling side of things to say we don't have a Shane Warne (nor do SA BTW)...

It may even be along while coming but rightly or wrongly, I do believe that with what we have, we can play as a team and probably make Australia work hard, even beat them at times if heads don't drop.

Just my ramblings...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 01:26 PM

Mike and I have missed todays play as we have been at Wombwell Festival. Mike Silver was excellent but it looks as if we've missed a great day of cricket.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 12:51 PM

Flintoff the magnificent, looking like an England victory, is it alright Jon if I give them a cheer.
Flintoff is on his way to be England`s best ever all-rounder, a treat to watch, he nursed the tail-enders along like veteran. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 11:03 AM

Just thinking then about Ed's "world's greatest ball game". Isn't one of the beauties of cricket the way fortunes can change so dramatically?

At the end of day 1, I had SA making about 600 and England being bowled for under 400...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:45 AM

Yes, a great knock. I think luck went his way with a couple of his miss hits but those quick runs were just what was needed!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:24 AM

freddy flintoff -what a star!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:15 AM

minus 27 for 4 now!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:14 AM

SA are effectively minus 28 for 3 at the moment ard and there still is about 1 1/2 days left. It's far too early to write of the chances of an England victory. I can't help but feel that England deserve victory here either. That is different to my feeling that overall over the 5 test series that SA have been the better side.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 06:55 AM

Heading for a draw, and the Series to the Boks. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 01:33 PM

So well balanced. Undoubtedly the world's greatest ball game

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 01:30 PM

Echoing the words of your President. Ard Mhacha