BS: Anyone for cricket?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 06:34 AM

Fionn, I know what I was watching and if you remember the ladycaster at the halway point gave us a glimpse of what was to follow, and I saw the great Beckham hammering in his penalty,and no mention of the Welsh game.
The second half of the News may have started with the Welsh game but no mention earlier.
But why do I explain, BBC and ITV will always give prominence to English sport, after all although we Celts pay our licence, we have to take second place to the majority, haven`t seen, for a time, the late Bobby Moore holding aloft the World Cup and our `enry left-hooking Clay, but they will be back. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 07:55 AM

I can't comment on the TV last night but overall, I think I would be inclined to agree with ard in that perhaps England do tend to get priority in coverage to the other countries in the UK. I don't think that Wales does too badly though and they do have thier own S4C instead of the regular channel 4.

That said, I used to get annoyed with coverage when I lived in Wales. It seemed to need something like a murder to get coverage in North Wales where as something trivial happening in Cardiff could get covered. I often used to think that the BBC North West and Granada were better than the Welsh equivilants for North Wales (we could recive them all in the Llandudno area).

Anyway, back to the cricket 342 - a good score in the end I think.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:10 AM

Pathetic to see England walking off the field for "bad light" when they were clearly on top of indifferent bowling from the Pollockless SA. When they resumed they had to settle in all over again - and lost two quick wickets.

Ard, sounds like you were watching ITN. There is no "halfway" point in the main BBC news. Incidentally if the BBC's sport slot had led off with England (which, I repeat, it did not) there would have been a case for that, to the extent that about 95 per cent of viewers would have been more interested in that than the Wales game.

As for running a trailer of the Beckham goal, that would have had nothing to do with the England you hate so much, and everything to do with the cult of celebrity, which has become a worldwide idiocy. (Did you happen to see any coverage of Beckham in China?) And this is a guy who will struggle to keep a first-team place with his club side.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 10:01 AM

I didn't understand our first bad light decision at all...

As for this celebrity bit, I walked away from the BBC 6 o-clock news in disgust a few months ago. By then, they had dedicated at least the first 5 minutes of main news reporting to the story about Beckham's possible move to Barcelona.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 03:29 PM

Fionn, Why do you persist, next time you view the BBC News at ten, be alert for the newscaster half-way through announce what is coming up in the second half of the News, and yes, England`s victory over Crotia was the leading sports feature.
And South Africa are looking good 250 will take some getting on this wicket. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:13 PM

SA 199 ahead and 5 wickets in hand. If the rest fall for say another 50 runs, I think we have an interesting match on...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Wotcha
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 07:33 AM

One side is in when the other side is out ...

You can find a local game of cricket close to the Washington, DC Mall (by the Lincoln Memorial) every Sunday in the summer (expat Pakistanis and Indians I believe). You can also find a club in San Diego, California ...

Cheers,


Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Wotcha
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 07:39 AM

Cricket Explained (www.jokes.net/cricketexplained.htm)

Old schoolboy classic:


All you need to know about cricket:


You have two sides one out in the field and one in .
Each man that's in the side that's in goes out and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out .

When they are all out the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out .

Sometimes you get men still in and not out .

When both sides have been in and out including the not outs , THAT'S THE END OF THE GAME !

HOWZAT !!!!!


Cheers,

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:25 AM

Oh well today has not gone the way I thought it would. I think all Ed's optimism is needed now!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Arnie
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 01:43 PM

Come on Freddy Flintoff - your country is depending on you!! Oh, and maybe Butcher will stick around for a while to make up for his missed catches........

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 08:00 PM

Just a fiver to get into Headingley tomorrow, and free for under 16s. I think I'm up for that, even if it's just in the hope of seeing a few more overs of Flintoff in full swing.

Ard, if you could set aside your prejudice for a moment and accept that in percentage terms the principality of Wales is a tiny part of the BBC's viewing public, you might notice a much more significant factor governing sports coverage. The channels are blatant about promoting via the news those events for which they have the rights. Thus in terms of news coverage, both Formula 1 and test-match cricket have been hugely downgraded by the BBC in recent years. On the other hand the BBC has been much more ready than ITN to give news coverage to the athletics.

Unfortunately this bias is not confined to sport. ITN thinks nothing of running blatant "news trailers" for so-caled exclusives on the Tonight show. The BBC are equally shameless about plugging Panorama etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 08:38 PM

Just thinking more on the sport/uk tv bit and the BBC. It's a few years ago since BBC2 used to show the Sunday league cricket but BBC2 used to split. The Welsh version would almost always have a Glamorgan game on. As I indicated above, I could get all 4 English and all 4 Welsh channels. In reality, with the cricket, that for me could mean trying to sort out which game I thought was the more exciting and at times switching between both.

Anyway, hope you have a good day Fionn. Butcher seemed in good touch today and there may be a chance of some "fireworks" from Flintoff... I don't think we are going to pull the victory off but one never knows...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 06:54 AM

Oh well, it didn't last long today. SA won by a huge margin in the end but I can't help England once again contributed to thier own downfall.

For me, going off for bad light when England were batting well and SA were in disarray was a key point. Our sloppy bowling on the 4th day (which was described by Ian Smith, one of the C 4 commentaters, as "garbage") was another.

I suppose one could also wonder about England not finishing SA off when they were 7 down but for me, that more highlights the way SA will fight when the chips are down - a quality England rarely seem to possess.

As I said before in this thread, I don't believe the difference between the 2 sides is vast. I still believe that in terms of talent. It just needs England to play to what they are capable of.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 09:16 AM

Ah God help us, beaten again, what England needs is another ten Fred Flintoffs, as it is they have too many Fred Flintsones. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 12:27 PM

I tried cricket once. Not too bad if sauteed in garlic butter and served on a bed of brown rice with a dash of good soy sauce.

(My apologies if anybody else had already posted something similar, but I'm not gonna read this whole thread just to find out.)

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 01:30 PM

Echoing the words of your President. Ard Mhacha

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 01:33 PM

So well balanced. Undoubtedly the world's greatest ball game

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 06:55 AM

Heading for a draw, and the Series to the Boks. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:14 AM

SA are effectively minus 28 for 3 at the moment ard and there still is about 1 1/2 days left. It's far too early to write of the chances of an England victory. I can't help but feel that England deserve victory here either. That is different to my feeling that overall over the 5 test series that SA have been the better side.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:15 AM

minus 27 for 4 now!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:24 AM

freddy flintoff -what a star!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:45 AM

Yes, a great knock. I think luck went his way with a couple of his miss hits but those quick runs were just what was needed!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 11:03 AM

Just thinking then about Ed's "world's greatest ball game". Isn't one of the beauties of cricket the way fortunes can change so dramatically?

At the end of day 1, I had SA making about 600 and England being bowled for under 400...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 12:51 PM

Flintoff the magnificent, looking like an England victory, is it alright Jon if I give them a cheer.
Flintoff is on his way to be England`s best ever all-rounder, a treat to watch, he nursed the tail-enders along like veteran. Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 01:26 PM

Mike and I have missed todays play as we have been at Wombwell Festival. Mike Silver was excellent but it looks as if we've missed a great day of cricket.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 02:05 PM

Congratulate away ard... I don't think you will find anyone (and certainly not from me I hope) objecting to credit given like that...

Flintoff certainly has looked good a couple of times and it is possible that he will prove to be one of our great all rounders. I'd still like to see what happens against Austrailia (in spite of our dissagreements above, I do believe they are the world leaders at the moment) before getting too carried away.

Wichever way this result goes, I think this England side does look promising and I'd back the likes of Flintoff and Anderson to come through and of course we do have some injured bolwers too.

I really think some of the England problem at times is that people don't back thier ability enough, leading to things like famous England batting collapses.

Comparing England to SA, we could pick out for example that we don't (yet) have a bowler of the class of Pollock (300 at around 20 surely puts you at "world class" rather than "just a good test bowler"). It would also be true on the bowling side of things to say we don't have a Shane Warne (nor do SA BTW)...

It may even be along while coming but rightly or wrongly, I do believe that with what we have, we can play as a team and probably make Australia work hard, even beat them at times if heads don't drop.

Just my ramblings...

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Sooz(at work)
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 08:43 AM

Looking good at the moment......

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Arnie
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 10:50 AM

Well, I suppose a 2-2 series draw is the right result for two evenly matched teams. Nice for Alec Stewart to go out on a match win. Man of the series for England- Tresco, man of the match - Freddy Flintoff - I even agree with these selections! What an agreeable day all round..and what a great summer's cricket (well most of the time!!) Bring on Bangladesh!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 12:40 PM

Arnie, that's not reading right to me. Tresco was man of the match and Flintoff was man of the series for England. I also agree with the selections. Smith was SA man of the series, again a fair choice I think, although my own feeling is he got this game wrong - I'd have been boring and defensive and played for the draw when it seemed pretty likely England were going to get somewhere near England's total - as it was they exceeded it in no time...

My other choice for SA would have been Hall but maybe that's just because he was not in the original sqad. He seems a pretty well rounded cricketer to me.

Again, I agree we have been treated to a fantastic series by these teams.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 02:48 PM

Won't matter now, but if the result had gone the other way, Vaughan's decision to bat for a few overs after Flintoff's departure might have come in for close scrutiny. Have England had anyone who was simultaneously a top-class player and top-class captain since.... Illingworth?? May??? Someone in the Border class, I mean. I was expecting Stewart to carry it off - a magnificent batsman on his day, even though he's a southerner, and in the field he was in the best place to skipper from. Yet somehow it didn't pan out.

All in all, a cracking series. We seem to have had a few in recent years, not foretting the last SA tour.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 03:34 PM

I'm not sure about that decision. I think I would have carried on but asked the batsmen to throw the bat - "try and hit a couple of 6s and don't worry about it if you get out". As it was, there seemed to me to be a lot of blocking which I felt was time wasting.

Captains, I'd take a guess at Mike Brearley being the most successful in my memory but I'm not sure his playing was up there... It remains to be seen what Vaugh will do but I'm optimistic.

Thinking of Alan Border, was he the one who led Australia out of thier dip?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 07:13 AM

Thought I'd refresh this thread as we are doing so well at Lords!
Why are so many England captains called Michael?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:22 AM

It's one of Life's Great Imponderables, to which we may never know the true answer - like "What's the meaning of life?", "How did the Universe begin", "Why are fish all called Bob?" or "Why does toast always hit the floor buttered side down?".

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Ooh - Aah
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:36 AM

I'm glad you refreshed - no ideas about 'Michaels', I'm afraid. Isn't it interesting that poor old Ard Mhatchbox or whatever his name is, so vocal before, wasn't the one to refresh this? Poor old thing, his Celtic bitterness must be close to curdling at seeing England do so well - 3-0 in the West Indies (begorrah!) a whitewash of the gutsy Kiwis (ach y fi!) and now 520-3 at Lords (grrr!) Suck on it, you all-green loser!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:39 AM

Sooz
its an ancient English cricketing tradition called "Taking the Mick"

391 for 2! my gast was totally flabberred. Its nice to see Bob Key actually doing something after his rather dismal showing in the One-dayers

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:18 AM

Thanks that Minstrel!
Not so good now we are all out - but the current Michael did get a century.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: muppett
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 10:01 AM

Way hay here come the Windies, last 7 English wickets fallen for 41 and now 70 fer 0

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 06:16 PM

I've not really watched any of this one due to on going PC problems (my computer is also my personal tv) but the reports regarding WI bowling did not read too well to me (that's not to say the earlir England batsmen may not have batted well). Is it true BTW that one bowler came on and with first or second ball bowled so wide that not even 2nd slip could get to it?

One thing my father and I discussed today is what seems to be faster scoring rates. Is some of that down to sloppy bowling? A bowler I used to like for England was Angus Fraser. Maybe not the most deadly but he tended not to give away free hits. It's before my time but my father tells me Statham was a good one who would not give too many free shots. He attributes some of Trueman's record to the pressure Statham put on.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:50 PM

The children's librarians had "eat a bug day" at work yesterday and served chocolate-covered crickets. Anyone who was for a cricket got an "I ate a bug today" certificate.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 03:43 AM

Way hay Muppett, we've just beaten the Windies by 200+ runs. Byeee!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:04 AM

SOOZ....Not personally keen on cricket as I find it boring (not very English sentiment I know)...but your song about cricket..well now there's a thing. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 08:32 AM

I thought some of you UK Cricket lovers might have commented on England`s win over Australia, and more so the two openers, Ed Joyce from Dublin and Malachy Bernard Loye,[a good oul County Down name], so it has come to this, two Irishmen get England away to a solid start and Joyce goes on to score 107.
The England Cricket team is beginning to look like Arsenal, Bopara,Panesar, Shah?.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Sooz
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 11:04 AM

Too busy worrying about the first match in the Six Nations Rugby!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 05:07 AM

We let the poor old Poms win on Friday to keep them interested.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 07:31 AM

Yes some of us might have commented on Englands's win but we're still in shock, coupled with the 'muddied oafs' victory over the old enemy and the return of Jonny Wilkinson. Well it'll soon be back to earth with a bump!

Ard Mhacha - I'm sure if Ed Joyce hadn't taken the Saxon Gold, Ireland could have prevailed over Kenya in the ICC tournament. And you forgot Petersen (S Africa) and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinea)!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:38 PM

Cricket? Thanks, no. They're too crunchy and upset my stomach.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:47 PM

Really looking forward to the England New Zealand match. That should be something.

I personnally think the one day series has been excellent. I have seen some excellent cricket, mainly from Australia.

Personally, if you love cricket, you love to see good batting/bowling/fiedling whoever its from.

Come on England, make sure you get in the final.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:10 PM

oops sorry Fielding

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:44 PM

Les, Petersen slipped my mind, when you look at New Zealand`s Rugby Union team, they should be called the South sea Islanders and Australia Rugby Union have a few outsiders as well, as Jack Charlton said ,"does your granny come from Ireland" your on.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone for cricket?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:45 PM

200 Ed Joyce next game.