BS: Things to see in New England

Subject: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Homeless
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 12:44 PM

The week surrounding Labor Day, my girlfriend and I are taking a trip up to the northeastern US. The only goals are going out onto Cape Cod and an as yet unplanned trip up into Maine. Being a photographer I'd like to get some pictures of what characterizes New England, but I'd like to have local perspective rather than what they list in all the tourist books. Can anyone give me suggestions for specific places or things I'd want to shoot?

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Peg
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 02:58 PM

there's a gorgeous big old apple orchard in/near Peabody called Brooksby Farm...

Walden Pond in Concord is also very nice.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: mg
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 04:49 PM

I would got to Aroostook County in Maine..fall comes early there and is so bright and gorgeous. You might be in about time for the potato harvest if they still are farming potatoes...also I think there is a lot of horse racing up there...where they have the little chariots behind the horse..forget what it is called. ....Bangor area might have it too. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: LilyFestre
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 05:40 PM

It all depends on the kinds of things you are interested in shooting. If you are interested in great people shots, Provincetown provides all kinds of colorful people, activities and unique architecture.....if you do go here, do so with a very open mind! In Boston, Fanuel Hall is great fun on the days the fish market folk are out and about.....hmm..can you tell I love to just catch people doing what they do best without being observed?   :) Oh and hey, if you are making your way to Maine, some of the logging roads provide absolutely GORGEOUS scenery as well as solitude.

If Vermont is anywhere on your list, there is a small unique college located in Bennington, Vermont called Southern Vermont College. This college was once the summer home to the man who invented the bottle cap for Coca-Cola. The actual college is an old stone mansion with some incredible stonework in the back. There are great old stories about the place being haunted and several indications that this could be true.....worth poking around! If you are really making a day trip of it, hike up the mountain behind the school to go splunking in the caves......

If by chance you head on down to Rhode Island, there is a small park on Jamestown Island called Beavertail. It is one of my top 3 favorites places in the entire world. Not many tourists, an old lighthouse, rocks to climb down, ledges to sit upon while waves crash all around you, tidal pools to explore.....yep...definately worth the drive down to RI.

Lots of great things to shoot in New England...Enjoy your trip!

Lily =^..^=

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 07:25 PM

Homeless, one of my favourite places for photos! Get off the main roads and there will be an abundance of great photo ops. Some favs: Western Mass., esp Granville, MA up a beautiful small canyon from Southwick; Stanley Park in Westfield, MA be sure to see the water wheel; Lebanon, CT - esp. there is a grove of oak tress outside of there, somewhere, sorry can't find info on it at the mo. absolutely beautiful

Also, anywhere alone Route 1, but esp. Stonington and Mystic, CT, if you hit Stonington be sure to head down to the water in Stonington Borough.

The House of the Seven Gables is really neat in too-touristy Salem, MA.

Also, the Northampton are of WMass, as well as up the road to Vermont (Animaterra territory!.)

Have fun!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Peg
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 07:55 PM

You can visit the "Happy Valley" Five College area and from Northampton, take route 5/10 to Greenfield, then 91 on up into Brattleboro VT and on from there...

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Barry Finn
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 08:45 PM

If you do end up going to Providencetown (Cape Cod) be sure to hit the Natural Seashore (good surf)/Monamoy Point-Chatham & the sand dunes around Turo & Wellfleet that whole coastline is a natural wonder. Try not to hit the labor day Cape traffic. At the latest go Fri am & don't try leaving till very late Sun pm. Nantucket, Martha's Vinyard & the Elizabeth Is. (no big tourist crowds there) are quite nice. From the Chatham coast south (on the sound side) lays the gulf Stream, beatufully warm water. For folk music, maybe a 100 mile radius of Boston there's over 200 venues not to mention the various sessions, concerts & etc. See the many folk calendars, Thurs. Boston Globe, Billy Hacket's celtic calendar, Boston Folk Song Society's newsletter, etc. The mountains of Vermount & New Hampshire are breath taking & great hikes if you like that kind of thing. For increduale wilderness try northern Maine's Allagash(sp?), except the saying "you can't get there from here" probably origniated there. Maine's coast is a unique shoreline that's fantastic but Charley Noble will probably fill you in on that. Why don't you post your likes & preferences & we'll probably be able to be much more helpful. If you head through Southern NH, we have a house here with a door that just won't close & a stove that never stops cooking.

Good luck, Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: mack/misophist
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 10:01 PM

No trip to New England would be complete without a visit to John Praisegod Smallbehinds.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: MMario
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 10:22 PM

In Sandwich (on the Cape) the is the Hoxie house (the oldest existing house on the Cape) Dexter's Grist Mill; Heritage Plantation (they have a craft museum and an antique car museaum and an octagonal shaker barn, as well as a restored windmill - plus extensive collections of hybrid rhodedendrons and azealeas)
There is also the Sandwich Historical Society - with an extensive and newly renovated museum of Boston and Sandwich Glass company glass -

Also in Sandwich - the Wing Fort house, the boardwalk across the salt marsh, Greenbriar jelly kitchen, the thornton Burgess Museam

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Homeless
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 10:44 PM

Thanx everyone for the suggestions so far.
I'd intentionally not listed the kind of things I usually shoot because I find I sometimes get in a rut shooting the same kinds of things repeatedly. Leaving it open like this, I'll get ideas from people that I would never have come up with on my own. Although the octagon barn is a must, since I have a growing collection of unique barns I've shot all over the US. The apple orchard and fish market sound really intriguing as well.
As for schedule, we don't have any. Last year we left the Midwest on a Friday with the plan of being in Phoenix the following Friday, Seattle the Friday after that, and back home a week later. (Non)Planning like this gives us lots of time to explore whatever we find of interest along the way.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Micca
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 03:03 AM

Well, you could go and photograph the National monument that is...
Kendall Morse!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 06:44 AM

Drive up Route 12 in southwestern New Hampshire for some lovely rolling views of the Connecticut River Valley. Cows, too.
Learn the difference between NH and VT-
In VT they paint their barns. -that says it all!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,Midchuck, in Montana at the moment
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:13 AM

Disloyal though it be for a Vermonter to say so, you ought to see the Presidential Range in NH. But don't try to go through North Conway on a weekend day.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 12:38 PM

Bennington, VT is a great place to visit, too, plus there is a covered bridge near there, if I remember right.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 01:31 PM

BTW - I would second the National Seashore if you get that far out on the Cape. (My Dad wired the main building for electricity when it was built) - they've got a lovely swamp walk as well.

Cape Ann and the glouchester area have incredible scenery

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Alba
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 01:45 PM

If you make it up into Maine and Head a bit North, the Town of Greenville at the beginning of Moosehead Lake is lovely, as is the Lake of course. There is a view that takes your breath away as you come down into the Town from the Indian Hill Trading Post. There's the Lake and you can see some of it's little Islands...beautiful.
Follow the road left around the Lake and you come to Rockwood a stunning little place which looks over to Mount Kineo..just lovely.
The Coastline of Maine is lovely too, a lot of the Towns along the Coast are pretty although it will be busy during Labor day weekend. I tend to avoid the Coast till late Fall or even Winter myself.
If you are in New Hampshire it might be worth taking a trip along the Kancamagus Highway which rises 2,855 feet into the White Mountains. It is lovely up in that area although I agree, avoid North Conway..tax free shopping draws a big crowd anytime:>) There is a Railway in Conway though and it is very pretty to take the steam Train up into the Mountains. My Son took some lovely photographs out of the Train window as it wound it's way up.. I know that sounds like a bit of a Tourist thing to do but he took some great shots that Day.
Rob and I take our Motorbikes around a lot of places here in Northern New England at Weekends during the months we can and always managed to find somewhere new to surprise us.
Let us know how your Trip goes. I hope you both have a great time:>)
JD

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: kendall
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 01:53 PM

Thanks Micca!
Being an historian, I'm drawn to historical sites. The lighthouse at Portland Head. It's called the most photogenic lighthouse in America.

Also, Cobscook Bay in eastern Maine, the tidal bore in the Bay of Funday. When the tide comes in, there is a wall of water tearing up the bay.

In Machias (My home town) the Burnham Tavern, where a gang of renegades plotted the takeover of the British ship, Margaretta a few days after the misunderstanding at Concord and Lexington. By the way, they did succeed, but they ran her aground. Bunch of farmers!

Pemaquid Point. They found hard evidence of a Norse settlement here.

If you want weather beaten faces, there are many old lobster fishermen along the coast.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Barry Finn
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 03:19 PM

If you have a photo affair with barns & are coming this way I'd suggest picking up a copy of "Big House, Little House, Back House, Barn" by Thomas Hubka. It concerns the 'connected' farm buildings in New England, with the main concertration being in eastern & south eastern NH & western & south western Maine). The connected farms were unique in design to New England (with a smathering in eastern New York) & were not connected because the farmer wanted to walk though a warm sheltered area to get to his/her stock (though it was a side benift) it was far more for the function of the self sustaining farmer & all of the assorted trades that were practiced. The direction to the prevailing winds, the sun, the road & the yard work also made quite a difference.

If you like strange barns on the Mass Av exit off Rt 93, across from Boston City Hospital, a round brick (no flat planes) barn maybe a good 100' across & 40' to the eave with a slate roof & a coupolo at it's peak.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: LilyFestre
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:59 PM

If you have a thing for barns, then by all means make sure you visit Hancock Village in MA. More info on this really intriquing barn can be found here: http://www.hancockshakervillage.org/bldgs/rsb1.html

Actually, the entire Shaker village is quite something. They will take you around and show you how things were done in the days when this was an active community...everything from making Shaker boxes to singing Simple Gifts in the music building....it's a really great place to visit!!!

Lily =^..^=

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: LilyFestre
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:01 PM

Also, if you hit Bennington, Vermont, there is a very famously photographed church (whitewash complete with fence, steeple and graveyard in the back....current home to Robert Frost)....only about 2 blocks from the famed Bennington Monument. The church is lovely....particularly in the fall...surrounded by ancient maples..........

Lily =^..^=

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 03:46 AM

If you get that far north, try Bar Harbour, I fell in love with it. Nice music shop there too, Song of the Sea.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: kendall
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 08:39 AM

Also at Mt. Desert, home of Bar Harbor) is Cadillac Mountain. The first rays of the morning sun to hit the USA can be seen there.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,Allan S.
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 10:37 AM

Sturbridge village in south east Mass. Is a must an autentic WORKING 1850's New England village all origional blgs. Everything there from that time. All plants and animals bred back to that time. also clothing a working museum could be crowded tho. Also Mystic , Connecticut, Same an 1850's Seaport. The last working whaling ship afloat

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 11:20 AM

I second Sturbridge Village. We never tired of visiting there. The seaport at Mystic, and Mystic itself are so full of photo ops it's incredible. If you go there be sure to stay downtown long enough to see the bascule drawbridge which was featured in the movie "Mystic Pizza" which you can also sample while you're there, just up the street a few blocks! Be prepared to park and walk a lot as tourist traffic can get really horrible there in the summer.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,Desdemona at work
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 12:52 PM

The town of Chester, Vermont is just lovely; all the buildings are made of local grey stone. If you like living history, Plimoth Plantation is well worth a visit while you're on the Cape, and the island of Nantucket is filled with photo ops. Too bad you aren't coming a little later in the autumn; the first 2 weeks of October are just a riot of outrageous foliage, especially in the more rural areas and the many pretty towns with Colonial-era buildings...those few glorious weeks are amongst the major reasons I live in New England.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 06 Aug 03 - 07:40 AM

Historic Harrisville, New Hampshire, is preserved exactly as it was in the mid-1800s- small brick mills, mill pond, just lovely.
And for a typical New England village with the white clapboard church on the green (and not much else!) my own village of Nelson, NH is lovely. Both are in southwestern NH off the beaten track!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Homeless
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 01:29 PM

What about the stone walls? Is there some specific area to go to see those, or are they scattered all over New England?

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 02:26 PM

seems like you can't go more then a few feet in some areas without tripping over a stone wall!

for some interesting ones you could visit "America's Stonehenge"

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: curmudgeon
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 03:00 PM

While once common in New England, and especially in NH where rocks are a crop, many of the old stone walls have been demolished for road building, highway widening, mall sprawling, condo creating, etc. However, I am right now looking out the window at the very long stone wall that marks the Northern boundary of my property.

If you go to Maine, you pretty much have to cross through NH to get there. Besides the regular Friday evening trad session in Portsmouth there's lots to see and shoot (most of the tourists are gone after Labor Day). i'd be happy to guide or direct you to any kind of site you're looking for - tom

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 03:18 PM

There are a lot of stone walls around the Stonington, CT area, there was one road in particular (I'll have to lookup the name, can't remember it) which was in a scene of Mystic Pizza which has a lovely bower of oak trees and old stone walls on both sides. Eastern CT is pretty good for that kind of thing.

You might also want to take a look at a guided tour (about the only way you can see these) of Gungywamp in Groton, CT, just a few miles from Mystic. I see on the photos page they are claiming them as colonial structures, but there are mysterious runes, and apertures which correspond with the sun at certain times of the year, etc. It looks as though they are distancing themselves from any kind of mystical connotations. It is a fair, but short hike and really a calm, yet sort of eerie palce to visit. I sat on a boulder which was littered with tiny garnets. There is an old legend about an Indian princess jumping to her death in the Thames River up around there and I don't care what they are saying now, some of that stuff pre-dates colonial times. I have a book written about it by one of their high mucky-mucks which points this out. One of the unusual runes is an early Christian symbol from the 6th or 7th century! Most interesting palce to visit.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 03:21 PM

I don't know if it's available anymore, but the book I have is The Greater Gungywamp: North Groton, CT, A Guidebook by David P. Barron & Sharon Mason. ISBN # 0892-1741

There's a lot in there about the Standing Stones, stone shelters built by "early man," and runes/writings which correspond to those elsewhere on the east coast and other countries which are unexplainable according to what we know of history.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Tiger
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 04:45 PM

And it's haunted, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,Jerry
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 09:50 PM

Labor Day weekend this year is the annual Windjammer Days Festival in Camden, Maine. Lots 'o tourists, unfortunately, but there'll be 17 schooners in the harbor, which is quintissential. Drive to the top of Mt. Batty for a view of Penobscot Bay that is beyond compare. Some sea music will be part of it all, too.

On the way, drive south on Rt. 24 out of Brunswick, ME, to the end of Bailey Island. Loads of lovely coastal scenery along the way.

If you go to Pemaquid you could swing by Bremen, ME, and see the hulk of the Cory Cressy, a wooden 5-masted schooner that was once a whorehouse in Boston Harbor. It's a sad sight, but evocative.

Have a fine trip.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 11:15 PM

HeyaTiger! Good to see you. Of course it's haunted!**bg**

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Homeless
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 04:11 PM

well, I'm gonna be leaving Thursday evening to start this trip, and thanx to you lot I've got a mess o' dots on my map to try to meander thru. And as if I don't have enough places to see, does anyone have any more suggestions?

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 04:17 PM

enjoy the trip! My parents are heading from the Cape to upstate NY that weekend; I'm headed for (near) toronto -- mind the crazy tourists!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Peg
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 10:03 AM

the stone walls are everywhere but maybe not much on the major roadways...if   you take Route 2 or 2A or Route 9 to western Mass. you will see quite a few-- very nice scenery. Central and western Massachusetts contain many   farms. The Pioneer Valley/Five College area is worth a visit (Northampton, Amherst, Hadley etc.). Northampton has lots of great shops and restaurants, and   beautiful old homes, once over the crowded Route 9 bridge you can go to Amherst (or bypass the strip mall of Route 9 and take Rte   47 to Hadley and stop in at Atkins Farms! Orchards and a nice food   shop at the base of the Notch, Holyoke range, then take 116 into Amherst) which has a lovely town   common, and Amherst College campus is lovely (I used to walk there every day). The Black Sheep bakery is worth a visit; great croissants and breads.

Have a great trip!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 11:21 AM

If you make it to Northampton, or "Noho" and do look at the shops, be sure to check out Thorne's Market, esp. the bookstore, The Reader's Feast, if it is still there. Also in Noho, there is a wonderful Academy of Music building, right by Pulaski Park, near the end of main street as it heads up a small hill to Smith College. They run movies at the Academy these days and it is well worth going just to see the inside of the building. They also have another theatre called The Calvin which is art deco and used to have really cheap tickets. There is also a small art film theatre the name of which escapes me. And, Amherst has a nice old theatre for movies, too.

The Botanic Gardens at Smith College is wonderful and includes a Japanese tea house, plus the greenhouse has fantastic and rare green things that are great for photography.

The whole five college area is really a wonderful place with lots of historical stuff, too. Old Deerfield is just up the road and well wworth the visit!

Have fun,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 11:26 AM

Be sure to check out the Iron Horse in Noho.

Night Owl says if you stay long enough you could go to the Boston Folk Festival. She also says if you get near the Cape, PM her. She also says to check out WUMB RADIO's Calendar of Events for music stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: kendall
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 11:32 AM

Maine is littered with stone walls. Someone once said the state of Maine looks like someone started a rock garden, and it got away from them.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: GUEST,"gunner"
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 03:53 PM

if you take the several suggestions to visit bennington and you come in on 9 west from brattelboro there's a spot on top of woodford mountain, just as you drop off a hill where, if you're looking to the right, you can get a shot up about 25 miles of the green mountain national forest with never a house, road or building in sight. a mile or so further on there's a spot where you can see the transition from beaver dammed pond to swamp and the beginning of a new patch of forest, also on the right. same road, just west of brattleboro, at the top of hogback mountain there's an overlook on the left where you can see almost down to springfield mass. it's a bit touristy but you can crowd tight up to the armco barrier and get a good photo. good luck and enjoy your trip.
"gunner"
vermont

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Peg
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 04:19 PM

that theatre is The Pleasant Street   Theatre, kat; I used to work there! Great   films and real butter on the popcorn. They have a video store adjacent too. We had a   terrible rivalry going with the   Academy of Music...
Not sure if that bookstore is still open, but Raven Used Books is on the corner and that is nice; cool bags with woodcut raven on it.

Last I knew the   movie   theatre in   Amherst   had   closed...a shame.

La Veracruzana in N'ton has the most amazing black bean burrito ever!

Only newcomers and tourists call it "Noho" BTW;   townies call it "Hamp."

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 04:26 PM

No way, Peg! MAybe you sold me tickets! Sorry to hear the one in Amherst closed down. My ex-business partner and I had our ad agency down around the corner and under the no-longer a Mexican restaurant right across the street from the Iron Horse. We had a blast there, as did my kids and brother. My son wound up managing the Masonic Building, living in the penthouse on top. It was grand fun for him.

When we lived there from 1984-87, and until my son left in 1993, everyone we knew who lived there called it Noho. I never heard any of the natives, even, call it "hamp.":-) GUess things have changed.

That other bookstore is wonderful, too!

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 07:41 PM

If you find yourself in north westrn Connecticut come say hello . My pottery is on the boarder between washington and Litchfield Ct. on rt 202.
             Now more inportantly. Guitars banjos and Mandolins cane be found at Music Emporium in Lexington MAss. THe Fretted Worrkshop in Amherst Mass. also the Botton Box in Amherst is a great concertina store !! . There is a great music store in Bratlebough Vt . ( Cant remember the name ) Oh Ya The Music Man In E Warwick RI used to have some great Banjos. Have a great trip . Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Peg
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 10:00 AM

kat:
I lived in the area from 1986 until 1991. You never heard people call it 'Hamp probably because you did not spend time around anyone who'd lived there long enough! In any case it wasn't something you commonly heard *in* Northampton, but outside it, as in when my bosses at the store in Amherst I worked at would say "We have to get over to 'Hamp later" meaning their Northampton location, or the women who served you breakfast at the diner in   North   Amherst would say, "Yeah, with that parade today, traffic in 'Hamp is gonna be awful!"

Other cool stuff in the area: The Bridge of Flowers in Shelburne Falls; the Book Mill in   Montague; the tobacco farms still functioning in Deerfield and North Amherst (along Route 5/10   you can see   them); the butterfly habitat in Deerfield.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Midchuck
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 10:54 AM

The music store in Brattleboro that Guy couldn't remember the name of is Maple Leaf Music. They do have an incredible selection of guitars. I think they're the only retail dealer for Froggy Bottom guitars, who are located one or two towns away. (I had a Froggy Bottom once, but a team of two proctologists and an amphibian biologist were able to cure me.) Another store to check out is Vintage Fret Shop, in Ashland, NH, just northwest of Lake Winne...oh, hell, I'm not even going to try to spell it.

If you want to see covered bridges, come here to Pittsford, VT. We got four in one little town. Also the New England Maple Museum.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 11:07 AM

Geez, Peg, I lived, worked, had my own ad agency, went out to eat, shopped, raised my kids, and had lots of local friends there. My son was considered a local by all of his friends who grew up there. He and his friends called it "NoHope" or Noho, as did most people we knew who lived there and most of whom had grown up there. He's got quite a few friends there still, who've grown up from being the movers and shakers of the punk scene (his penthouse parties with visiting bands in attendance were legendary)to being lawyers, contractors, etc. based out of there and they still call it Noho.

I did just ask him if he'd ever heard anyone use "'hamp." He said not in Northampton, that it was a "square" thing which he'd heard now and then in Amherst.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 11:31 AM

THanks Midchuck . Yes Another guitar store !! All thebest. Oh Sturbridge Village is portraing the 1830's (1838 ) not the 1850s. THey realy care so its good to know.. Lots of fun .. If your out near Provincetown stop for Portuguess bread in Wellfeet and try to see Newcolm Hollow Beach. All the best , Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Peg
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 05:43 PM

"square?" LOL! Well my old bosses were aging   hippies. That's what I mean; most people who live and work there   have not been there for that long...

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 07:22 PM

True a lot of people are there only for a few years, but not most of the folks I am referring to...for example, my son's and daughters' friends and teachers who were born and raised there, my neighbours who'd been there for over forty years owning and running a diner well-known to other "locals," etc.

I guess it doesn't really matter; it is a great area, regardless and I hope you, Homeless, get a chance to see some of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: Joe_F
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 06:28 PM

When I have guests and we go to Cambridge, MA, I take them to see my favorite grotesquery there: the two *oversize* bronze rhinoceroses guarding the entrance to the Harvard biology building off Divinity Avenue. You can even call them rhinocerotes (the proper Greek plural), and the shade of Professor W. V. O. Quine will bless you.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: LadyJean
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 12:22 AM

Should you be so fortunate as to find yourself in Mystic Connecticut, the town is well worth seeing, and don't miss Old Mystic Seaport. Old Mystic Village is a glorified strip mall, worth a visit, only if you need something.
I have stayed at the Wayside Inn, in South Sudbury, Massachussetts. It's lovely. It was built in the eighteenth century, and much of the period feel is still there, though not in the bathrooms.
Salem Massachussetts has a lot of witchy stuff for the tourists, but they also have The Flying Cloud, that has the record for the fastest voyage around Cape Horn, and is famed in song, story, and a Wedgewood China pattern.

Subject: RE: BS: Things to see in New England
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 10:13 AM

Just a report here folks.......

Homeless and his lovely lady are on their way and are at the moment probably rambling through Pennsylvania with the one firm plan of being with Kendall on Tuesday. The other firm plan regarding Cape Cod has no time frame....only Kendall.

Last evening Karen and I and the kids met them for a late supper of Thai at one of our favorite hole-in-the-wall joints. We spent several very enjoyable hours together just BSing and discussing the trip. The other thing we also did was to look through many of Homeless' photographs. If you are unaware of this man's ability in the art of photography, you are missing out. He has an excellent eye and the technical skills to go with it....a potent combination.   Plus he has the uncanny ability to shoot the simplest things in such a way that you see the thing in an entirely different way and the oddest things become great pictures.

I was also the recipient of a dual chamber ocarina! Cleigh isn't happy, but this thing is great! I'd never seen one and it has a strange sound .... lots of fun!! Very cool....Thanks !!!

For those of you expecting them along the way, they are on the way! I am envious of the way they are travelling with limited structure and time constraints. And of course, like many others have found out, they are wonderful folks to be with. Nothing like 'Catters for quality "good times."

Spaw