RI Quiz

Subject: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 08:29 AM

Answers to this thread please. A prize will be awarded, not necessarily to the person who gets most answers right: as the questions vary wildly in difficulty, I may do a little weighting. The rather precise theme will be very helpful when you've spotted it.
   Question 4 is unfair, and downright misleading.

1: Where British stags enjoy some rare ould times.
2: United lads trying to break some galling chains.
3:Reputed location of a hallowed place.
4: Where they were proud of the Flying Cloud.
5: Where you'll a noisy shout of "Revenge"
6: One end of a Count's line.
7: 48 bars and a lot of yachts.
8: Home of a sweet-smelling Mary
9:Good place for viewing 11 and 12.
10: There was an old fellow from ----
11:May be seen to advantage from 9
12: may be seen to advantage from 9.
13:Good place for viewing lunar and solar events,
14: A minor classic, pure and popular with Coleman and any session player.
15: Go here for a bottle of wine and a roll in the grass with Mary.
16:Other end of 6's line.
17: A handsome boatman will take you there.
18:Millicent's favourite place.
19:Stellar object, superior to those of 1,6,13,16 and 20.
20:Back home at the other end of a Count's line from 13.

Good luck

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Partridge
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 08:45 AM

1 Dublin?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 08:55 AM

Just to help when I am allocating the prize, please indicate in your answers the relevant musical allusion(as it is possible to get some answers with guess work).

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:05 AM

Should have mentioned: Partridge, you are quite right .

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:11 AM

I'd answer some as:

1. Dublin (city, in the rare old times)
3. There are several contenders for place (Holy Ground)
5. Revenge (for Skibbereen)
8. Dingle (Red-haired Mary)
19. Star (of the county Down)

Several others come to mind, but I have to get to work.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:14 AM

Forgot:

17. Rocks of Bawn.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:16 AM

Rapaire: Correct on Skibbereen and Star of the County Down. Wrong on Dingle for reasons I will not explain at this stage.
Re Holy Ground: I used the word "reputed" advisedly. But I think there is only one well known contender which fits the theme of this quiz.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:19 AM

17 is definitely not the "Rocks of Bawn".

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:23 AM

Lots of guesses here, Greg

1. Dublin
2. Wexford
3.
4. Tramore
5. Skibbereen
6. Bantry
7. Dingle
8. Tralee
9. Doneen
10.
11. Kilrush
12. Kilkee
13. Galway
14.
15. Dungloe
16. Derry
17. Carrickfergus
18.
19. Bannbridge
20. Dublin

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:29 AM

Missed the allusions

1. Dublin in the rare old times
2. Boys of Wexford
3.
4. Tramore
5. Skibbereen
6. Bantry bay (SotCD)
7. Dingle
8. Rose of Tralee
9. Cliffs of Doneen
10.
11. Kilrush -Cliffs of Doneen
12. Kilkee - Cliffs of Doneen
13. Galway (SotCD)
14.
15. Mary of Dungloe
16. Derry Quay (SotCD)
17. I wish I was in Carrickfergus
18.
19. Bannbridge town in the county down
20. Dublin (SotCD)

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:43 AM

Snuffy:P excellent, and your position might well be unassaible,unless I award a lot of bonus points for obscure allusions. For example, you give no allusion for q7, Dingle. You've got to tell me why it is Dingle before I tell you if youre right or not. And the musical allusion in Q13 is not actually the Star of the County Down.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:44 AM

So 4 isn't Toronto then....

RtS

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:46 AM

Helpful update.
Not answered so far: 3,4,10,18.
The allusion in 10 is not as obviously musical as the rest.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:48 AM

Roger the Skiffler: your answer is absolutely 100% correct, but alas doesnt earn you any points.No, it is not Toronto.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 09:56 AM

Dingle Regatta (in three parts A+B+C=24 bars)

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:00 AM

Well   each part is played twice, making the 48 bars of the clue, just to explain the clue in full.

Revised update, actually the unanswered questions are 3,4,10,14 and 18.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:01 AM

4. I shipped on board of The Ocean Queen belonging to Tramore

Isn't the Holy ground reputedly at Cobh? But that's out of sequence.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:04 AM

Snuffy:Tramore is wrong.As you point out, the Ocean Queen came from Tramore. But so what?? And do check the preamble to the questions.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:26 AM

Keep forgetting the "real" Baltimore is in Ireland:

"The Flying Cloud, the pride of Baltimore,"

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:28 AM

Correctimundo,Snuffy. Which, of course, puts Cobh in the correct sequence.
10,14 and 18 still to do.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:32 AM

10 Would the old fellow be Edward Lear, perchance?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:33 AM

What is your precise answer,Snuffy?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:33 AM

Limerick

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:57 AM

Aaaagh! Snuffy got here before me!

14 is Sligo Maid, very popular session tune in A minor.

Brill quiz, as ever, greg. Didn't see you in Beverley yesterday...

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:05 AM

Oh, Sligo Maid also played by some young whippersnapper upstart called Michael Coleman who stratched about on the fiddle a bit, of course.

Now has a country named after him, I believe...

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:19 AM

Hi Noreen. Well, sa youve noticed, Snuffy's got in before you and pretty much cleaned them all up. I think number 18 has still eluded everybody, though, unless I've missed an answer.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:21 AM

You may be pleased to know that I sang through both verses of the Rose of Tralee, looking for a 'sweet-smelling' reference and not finding it, before I realised it was in the title.

Do I get extra points for knowing all the words? S'pose not, and anyway Snuffy would get the points too.

No reference made to the Count's line in 13 & 20: would it be Count John McCormack (made a papal count in 1928) who was known for singing the Star of the County Down (amongst other things)?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:27 AM

Makes a change for me to get there before you, Noreen. You've usually snaffled up all the goodies long before I arrive.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:30 AM

Millicent doesn't ring any bells- even with the map nothing springs to mind. Millicent Martin? Millie? Milly Molly Mandy?

It's Mary not Millie in The Mountains of Mourne, isn't it.

Give us a clue... ?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:30 AM

Well, Snuffy did refer to the song's allusions to clues 13 and 20 actually(also clues6 and 16). The two lines, of course, being one from Bantry Bay to Derry Quay, and the other from Galway to Dublin Town.
Though the actual q13 was "Good place for viwing lunar and solar events". Galway has been identified as the answer from other considerations, but no-one has said what the clue alludes to.
    Which just leaves Q18, Millicent's favourite place. Any takers?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:34 AM

OK Snuffy, I'll let you have this one :0)


greg:
You will sit and watch the moon rise over Claddagh,
And watch the sun go down on Galway Bay

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:36 AM

altogether now:

On Gal - way Bayyyyyyyyy.....

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:37 AM

(Yes i'd seen the lines implied, but not the Count).

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:38 AM

I think the Galway reference is the song "Galway Bay":

You will sit and watch the moon rise over Cladagh
And see the sun go down on Galway Bay.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:40 AM

Noreen;correct on the Galway allusion,as I would expect from a seasoned quizzer.
   Well, I rather thought Millicent's favourite place might cause a bit of head scratching. Everyone will have assumed correctly that the answer is to be found somewhere between Carrickfergus and County Down, on the Irish coast. No mention of Millicent will be found on the map however. We have had a reel in Q14, but you might care to explore another kind of tune, possibly named after a place between Carrickfergus and Co Down?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:41 AM

Hi Dave, beat you by 4 minutes :0)

Thanks for joining in the last verse!

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 11:58 AM

There are 5 versions of Millicent's Favourite, (a hornpipe) at JC's tunefinder, but that gets me no nearer a place

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 12:03 PM

Oh! I've learned something.

18: Belfast.
Millicent's Favourite is another name for the Belfast Hornpipe (aka Sweep's Hornpipe).

Thanks to JC's ABC tunefinder, as ever!

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 12:07 PM

Can we go back to work now?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 12:19 PM

Not too busy today, Snuffy?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 01:21 PM

Just re-designing some database reports - nothing serious

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 01:52 PM

OK well done everyone, thanks for taking part. Snuffy, PM me your address. Again. And I do believe I've sent you a prize for a previous quiz, so you'ld better tell me what you already own in the way of Boat Band CDs!

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 01:56 PM

PS additional info: The Belfast Hornpipe, aka Sweep's, and Millicent's Favourite, is also Millicent's Fancy, and also one of the seven(I think) different tunes called Manchester Hornpipe.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 02:15 PM

But who was Millicent?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 02:18 PM

I ask the questions on this thread. Start your own, Noreen!!!!

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: fox4zero
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 01:57 PM

I don't see any connections between any of these places and "Poor little RI, the smallest of the 48"

Baffled on Block Island (BI,RI}

Larry

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 02:05 PM

Well the thing is Larry, I set a quiz a while ago called RB Quiz, The linking theme being all the answers were placenames on the coast of Britain, going round clockwise.And there is a programme on the radio called Round Britain Quiz. But I didnt want to give the game away too easily what the theme was. And then I did the same for America(the continent) and called it RA Quiz. Which is why I called this current one RI Quiz.
    Of course I intended no direspect to the tiny little afterthought of a state you live in,which is in any case too small to find on any map I own,so I've no idea where it is, or even if it exists. Though come to think of it I believe you have a famous chicken.

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: fox4zero
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 02:29 PM

Greg

No disrespect perceived.

While my original note above was in jest, there is some basis for the
Block Island (RI) and UK connection.

During the War of 1812, the USN was unable to protect the entire eastern coastline against those "big bullies" of the RN. Both British and US warships "called" at Block Island for fresh water, meat and strong spirits, consequently the Island was declared neutral territory by the US Congress, and Islanders were not permitted to go to the the mainland. In the aftermath of our stunning victory, Block Island was NEVER SUBSEQUENTLY RE-ANNEXED!!, which is the basis for all loyal Block Islanders refusing to pay federal taxes, nor take any responsibility for the current federal administration.

Larry

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 02:35 PM

Are you still not allowed to go to the mainland? or perhaps nobody wants to?

Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 05:05 PM

Larry:
If you do eventually get to the Mainland you'll find you're no longer "Poor little RI, the smallest of the 48", they've picked up a couple more in the last century

Nigel