Lyr Req: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Joe_F
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 07:29 PM

"I Like a Moose" (male & female versions in the DigiTrad).

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Susan of DT
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 06:08 PM

When you want to find other songs to the same tune in the DT, search for the tunefile name, in this case VILDINAH. It won't get every one of them, since some will have had the tune entered specifically for that song, but many will use the same tunefile. There are 26 that come up on the version of the DT on this website.

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 01:18 PM

I think there's a Musical Hall song about a muckspreader? Chorus starts, "Fling it here, fling it there....."

Kitty

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 11:36 AM

I will recommend Do Virgins Taste Better , but I have to admit that it was not originally set to V&HisD. I find that it fits V&HisD better than the Irish Washerwoman, and I sing it this way all the time.

Lest you form a wrong opinion based on the title, it (at least explicitly) mean what you just might think. I will say that it is just slightly bawdy. It's about the legendary practice of bribing a dragon to leave a village alone by annually providing a virgin for the dragon to eat.

Read it, at least! It's great good fun.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Joybell
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 09:41 AM

"The Nautical Yarn" and "Bluey Brink" from Australia. Joy

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Joe Richman
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 09:36 AM

I like the Magic Stane, Greg, but my Scots dialect pronunciation is terrible. If someone could render it in phonetic spelling for me that would help.

Joe

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Snuffy
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 08:32 AM

Listed in the links at the top of the page is MASTER MCGRATH

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 06:06 AM

G'day Joe,

Ta muchly for this thread. Somewhere in my brain cell there's another song wot I can't recall at the moment..... I have senior lapses...

PS - could you give me a wake-up call? I must get to the Post Office (if we still had one) to "Register my A25"

Cheers - Sam

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 04:39 AM

In my list of Irish songs I have the following listed to this tune:
Old Orange Flute
I Don't Mind If I Do
In the County Roscommon
Pat and the Priest
Old Ballymoe
Tourelay
The House Down in Carne
The Shilling a Night
The Birth of Saint Patrick
The Widow of Donaghadee
Ballad of the 13th Lock
Quare Times
The Mullingar Heifer
The Blind Beggar's Daughter
The Battle-away Breed

wr.

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: pavane
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 04:30 AM

Of course, The Thrashing Machine (bawdy) also goes back at least as far as the 1850's. There are several copies in the Bodleian library, for example:

The thrashing machine

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: greg stephens
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 04:00 AM

I can strongly recommend "The Wee Magic Stane", an account of the stealing of the Stone of Scone(the Scottish coronation stone) from Westminster Abbey, by some scottish students in the 5o's. Insteaad of stealing, perhaps I should say reposession.
    I also particularly like the "Thrashing Machine" recommended earlier by Glok, but I fear that may come into your category of scatological. (Though that word appears to mean "obsessed with excrement" originally, and there is definitely no excrement in the Thrashing Machine. But alas, quite a bit of shagging).
    I am not sure if anyone anyone has suggested "Follow the Plough" yet. That is grand old agricultural song, used to popular among all the old boys in country pubs. I think you could be singing the rest of life at this project, Joe. At one a month, it's going to take a few years to get through the list!

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: pavane
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 03:51 AM

The original song sems to have been
William and diana

Printed somewhere between 1789 and 1820

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 03:45 AM

The Thrashing Machine is another.
Giok

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: The Shambles
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 02:08 AM

Sing It Elswhere

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: masato sakurai
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 02:07 AM

Link to Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads:

      villikins and his dinah [tune]

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: pavane
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 01:47 AM

A search of the Bodleian Ballad library turns up a lot of songs from as early as 1855 which were already using the tune.

Examples

Nicholas and his rhino ("'Tis of a rich tyrant who in Russia did dwell ...")

The great prize fight between Morrissey and Heenan, the Benicia boy, at Long Point, Canada, Oct. 20, 1858 ("Ye merry gay sportsmen, wherever you be ...")

The back-door commission; or, The fiat against publicans and publichouses ("Shut the back-doors, lads, but first let us in ...")

Nedward and his Fanny ("It's of a young clothier I'm going for to tell ...")

Albert, Victoria, and Napier ("As Victoria and Albert together did stray ...")

John Dean and his own Mary Ann. Or, the gallant young coachman and the cruel father ("Oh listen to me while a story I tell ...")

Teetotal Sam ("Two jolly old fellows, some four months ago ...")

The Sunday trading riot ("Oh, my friends have you heard of this terrible job ...")

Susy and Pat Murphy ("Och, it's of a rich farmer in Limerick did dwell ...")

Subject: RE: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Joe Richman
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 12:32 AM

OOps.. got cut off

Jan: Old Orange Flute ( N. Ireland)
Feb: A25 song (British navy WWII)
Mar: Dinkie Die ( British Army WWII version)
April: Off for Easter
May : Off for Mother's Day
June: Sweet Betsy from Pike ( US West 19th Cent.)

and in July probably

July: Moses Ritooralalooralalay ( Irish 1907 version not modern DT version, see recent thread)

I plan on using V & his D in December. (we're off again in Oct. for a fiddler's convention)

I have some others, but welcome new suggestions, particularly ones that aren't in DT and aren't scatological.

Joe

Subject: Villikins & his Dinah: songs using tune
From: Joe Richman
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 12:04 AM

In another thread, Billy the Bus aka Sam- Stewart Island NZ requested that I start a thread regarding the use of the tune Villikins & his Dinah for topical songs. The origin of this was my goal to do one different song using this tune at the monthly meeting of a folk circle I attend. So far I've done 4 different songs, and have one on tap for July. I have a couple of other possibilities for the rest of the year, and I plan on using V and his D in December. The months of April and may were skipped due to Easter and Mother's Day conflics so what I've done to date is the following:

Jan.:    Old Orange Flute
Feb.: