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Subject: Mass Observation - Children's song
From: DMcG
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:18 PM

A thread was posted over at folkinfo that reminded me of the Mass Observation exercises that took place in Britain during 1937 until the early fifties (see http://www.sussex.ac.uk/library/massobs/)

The topic raised was Children's rhymes and it struck me what an amazingly detailed picture we could get if Mudcatters who were teachers of children in the range say 5-11 just noted what playground rhymes and songs were sung on an agreed date. Of course, this thought has occurred to me at just about the worse possible time i.e. just before the main summer break. Has Mudcat ever undertaken such an exercise? Would it be possible? Admittedly, it would still give a very partial picture, but even the wonderful Opie surveys were partial.

What say you?


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation
From: Peace
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:20 PM

School isn't in for us until September. If it takes place then, I would ask some elementary teachers to help.
Let me know.

Bruce M


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:47 PM

I have lots of friends who are teachers. Let me know if I can help. Around here we have year-round school, and the fall session starts in early August.


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 06:31 AM

Your link is for "everyday life in Britain". Are you interested in expanding this to include the Known World? If so, I'm with brucie- wait until the fall and I'll gladly join in!

Allison


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 07:00 AM

The mass observations I referred to were for Britain, but I'd certainly be interested in looking much wider. The Opie study for 'The Singing Game' seems to cover about 30 UK schools, so ideally we would need to be looking at a few hundred world-wide to get anything remotely comparable. But if that's not possible, I think it would still be interesting even if we could only match the original thirty.


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation of Children's song
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:09 AM

First refresh after thread name improved!


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation of Children's song
From: Mo the caller
Date: 11 Dec 05 - 05:06 PM

Did anyone do it?


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation of Children's song
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Dec 05 - 05:38 PM

No, I'm afraid not. Some half a dozen people PM'd me, but that was not really enough to do anything. Part of the difficulty was that I picked a very bad time to have the idea - just as schools stopped for the summer breaks. And of course, we are just about to hit another seasonal break now! However, I still think it would be an interesting and worthwhile exercise.


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation of Children's song
From: GUEST, Jos
Date: 12 Dec 05 - 04:28 AM

I remember our school being recorded in the early fifties, in Somerset. I had no idea why, but I remember playing the games and singing 'The Farmer's in his Den' and , I think, 'In and out the Windows'.


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Subject: RE: Mass Observation of Children's song
From: Flash Company
Date: 12 Dec 05 - 07:17 AM

Went to visit our family grave last week, the infant school just over he wall from the church were out playing The Farmers in his Dell.
I remember thinking 'I bet Mum is loving this!'

FC


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