BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?

Subject: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 02:00 PM

That's the buzz of the day. With Bush having plummeted in the polls since his post-9/11 and post-Iraq war highs, can Kerry deliver the goods to win the election in November?

Everyone agrees that the speech tonight will go a long way towards the November tea leaves coming into clearer focus.

Depending on which polls you read, roughly 60-65% of Americans say they want to see the country moving in a different direct. All the polls seem to be saying that of that 60-65%, between 40 and 48% of those likely voters would vote for Kerry. Probably. Well, maybe. But maybe not, if the economy improves. And if NATO can be brought on board in Iraq. Or not. In other words, 60-65% of likely voters are really pissed at Bush and his bungling of the economy and the war against Iraq. Angry. Really angry.

But not John Kerry. He not only isn't angry. He has told the troops not to display anger either. Anger bad. This has become what Arianna Huffington has jokingly called The Anger Management Convention. The main anger, according to Princess Arianna, seems to be centered around delegate hotel envy.

Now some leftist media pundits, who rarely agree with the mainstream media pundits, have said that with those kinds of dissatisfaction numbers (that 60-65%) among likely voters, that this election will be an up or down vote on Bush, Inc. and that it is Kerry's to lose.

Michael Moore reminds us that just because the clear majority of likely voters are truly angry at Bush and want to see the country move in a different direction, that Democrats are REALLY good at losing presidential elections if the past 50 years or so is anything to go by.

Then there are those minions (and they are many) who say Kerry has NEVER, not no how, delivered A Great Speech. This would not portend well for him needing to make The Greatest Speech of His Life, Not to Mention of the Convention.

He has to beat out some pretty good orators to do that. Jesse Jackson was safely sidelined in a non-prime time spot, so his main threat is gone. Al Sharpton, the second best orator of the Democratic party today, pulled some punches and got the most rousing response so far. But everyone knows he cheated, and didn't play by the Kerry/DLC/New Democrat Rules of Order book. Also, people don't love him the way they love Jesse, so it doesn't appear Al did much damage. The rest of the speakers, from Bill to Hill, to Lizzie and Johnnie, to Obama, there were only brief cheap thrills.

Since here has been no rousing speaker from the podium that has come before him (except Jesse, who no one heard), the DLCDNC has managed the stage well for Kerry. Except for Teresa's "shove it" thing, which is getting all the late night attention of the week. The "Beat That Bitch" thing has really gone into overdrive, hasn't it? Maybe instead of trying to rule the Democratic party world, the DLCDNC ought to have kept their eyes on their own backyard, eh?

So what do you think folks? Will Kerry cut it? Will he give a speech that sends him roaring out onto the campaign trail with a big bump in the polls and riding a wave of excitement, or will he rise to his usual level of mediocrity, and not even acknowledge all the anger we feel? After all, none of us needs to be convinced that change at the top is needed. We do, however, need to hear that you understand and share our anger and feel our pain.

And saying "safer and more secure" won't cut it either. Bush, Inc has that one covered already. "Hope is on the way" sounds too cynical, too much like "The check is in the mail".

Anger can easily be converted into excitement and positive energy. When people get mad, the first thing they want to do IS TAKE ACTION!!! If Kerry ignores that simple fact of human psychology, my fearless prediction is he may not even win Massachusetts. Nor would he deserve to.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 02:15 PM

and these commments are from his supporters? geesh - hate to hear what his detractors would say...

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 02:21 PM

Kerry doesn't seem to really have supporters the way Bush has supporters though, Guest 2:15. He just has anger at Bush on his side. Nobody seems to really be FOR Kerry. Just AGAINST Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: harvey andrews
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:18 PM

From this side of the Atlantic the news reports suggest that the fact that he can't pitch a baseball will lose him the election. All our news progs have explored is his "boringness", his image etc. We get next to nothing about policies and intelligence (oops, sorry, a bad word)

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:35 PM

Well, that could well be true. He is both pretty intelligent (I think his braininess is highly overrated, meself) and a pretty good athlete, if the Kerry propaganda and mainstream media punditry is to be believed.

It's his wife that is getting all the attention this week though. Looks a bit like the vultures are already swarming to me, especially since NO ONE is actually watching the convention coverage except us news junkies.

I'm getting ready to go listen to tonight's network news whores spinning and weaving of the night to come. Edwards speech last night fell pretty flat, compared to his primary performances. Apparently they've ironed out that whole "Two Americas" delusion of Edwards. Fact, he barely mentioned us working poor folks...

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:38 PM

I still say he'd look a lot better with a beard, the way Lincoln did. But they don't allow people with beards to be presidents these days do they?

Strictly speaking, the ability to make a "charismatic" speech is about as relevant to being able to do the job properly significant as the ability to juggle... Maybe less so.

But the media conspire to conceal the fact that none of these guys can juggle. Let alone ride a unicycle. I think perhaps Michael Moore should expose that kind of thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 08:10 PM

He says he plans to do a bit more exposing this fall during the campaign, McGrath. Just don't expect him to be critical of Kerry. He has meticulously avoided either endorsing or criticizing him.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 01:12 AM

The answer obviously is--if you're for the Republicrats, you LOVED this speech!

For the rest of us...

YAWN. Oh look, balloons and confetti. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Who's on Leno?

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 01:21 AM

The balloons didn't release properly and the confetti was sent down too soon. For some odd reason CNN had a mic in with the guy directing the floor and effects and he was pretty exercised about the balloons not releasing all at once and some irate language was heard. Perhaps there will be an FCC investigation of the "F-word" on during the evening hours? Headed by Colin Powell's boy Michael . . .

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 01:22 AM

Keep in mind that if he blows his wad now, there will be over three months for Bush to mount a mudslinging show. Therefore, Kerry has to be cool and watch his timing. IMHO.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 01:44 AM

Cheap tricks, cheap tricks, and more cheap tricks.

Kerry is actually one of the lizard aliens. You can tell by the shifty eyes, and his lizard tongue action. I hope someone rips his face off in the debates. That would be mighty entertaining. Probably not as good as Ed Helm's "Freedom of Oppression" piece from the Free Speech Zone, but what the hell. Seeing Kerry exposed as one of the lizards would be very cool.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry's to lose: can he deliver tonite?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 10:37 AM

As nsoted:

Glitch Broadcasts Convention Snafu on CNN   

July 30, 2004 04:15 AM EDT

BOSTON - The Democrats have a balloon problem. John Kerry concluded his acceptance speech Friday night, the jubilant convention crowd cheered and the balloons dropped. A few of them. Too few.

"Go balloons," said convention producer Don Mischer, instructing the balloon droppers. "Go balloons. Go balloons!" His voice was becoming increasingly frantic - and it was going out over CNN.

"I don't see anything happening," he said angrily. Unknown to him, CNN was running his name and title across the bottom of the screen.

Long minutes after the place was supposed to be a blizzard of balloons and confetti, Mischer was still shouting that it wasn't happening, at least it wasn't right. Viewers saw a lot of balloons, in fact, and Kerry, family members and delegates happily batted them around. But nothing like the 100,000 that had been supposed to cascade down.

At one point Mischer used a profanity to rebuke his balloon-dropping crew. CNN was still broadcasting his voice.

Finally, they all showered down. And Mischer's unhappy moment of TV fame was over.

His stage instructions were available to all major media covering the convention during the week - for their guidance, not for broadcast.

Stephen Jewett, a DNC official involved in podium operations, said there was no malfunction with the balloon drop. The balloons were timed to come down slowly, he said, making "for a longer ending, which was nice."