BS: The jihad must be stopped

Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 01:44 PM

Corection: I do believe we are moving towards a non-oil based economy. But not the other bit.

Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 02:25 PM

According to Little Hawk, Israel has:

a superior command of high technology
a large stockpile of nuclear weapons
a dominant air force that can easily defeat its opponents
an extremely elite and experienced armed forces
the backing of the United States of America

Little Hawk, you forget one thing.

Israel is better educated than all of it's Arab neighbors combined.

It's citizens are taught how to think and reason. maybe that's why they have everything you mentioned and the Arab countries haven't pulled themselves out of the 1500s.

Maybe that's why they hate everyone else so much. It's obvious that they have no self-esteem. You have to love yourself first before you love thy neighbor.

Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: M.Ted
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:14 PM

It would be nice if we were moving toward a non-oil based economy, but the fact is that part of the recent jump in oil prices has to do with the fact that there are big new bidders in the oil markets, such as China, meaning that demand for oil is at an all time high--

Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 12:01 PM

Your argument has some validity, Martin, but I have also met any number of well-educated, articulate people from Arab countries who were not living in the mindset of 1500. I have not met a single one who did not want democracy, given the choice.

I agree that people must love themselves first before they can love their neighbour. Very true!

I also agree that a lot of Muslims in the Middle East suffer from an inferiority complex...

That's partly because their societies are economically underdeveloped for the majority of the population...resulting in poverty and all its accompanying fallout. This is especially true of Palestinians at present. It's partly because their governmental institutions are authoritarian and backward. It's partly because their military expertise falls far short of Israel's. It's partly because they do not have the kind of superpower backup that Israel does.

All those factors combine to put Arabs at a great strategic disadvantage in any confrontation with Israel. Given that circumstance it is indeed inevitable that militant Arabs feel like martyrs and "underdogs" and are spurred on by fanatical commanders to commit desperate acts such as suicide bombings.

By the same token, militant Israelis feel like martyrs and underdogs (in that they perceive Israel as small and outnumbered and surrounded...and in that they still remember the Holocaust and other attacks on Jews)...and that feeling spurs them on to commit violent countermeasures against the Arabs and Palestinians.

In either case, the militants are trying to put out the fire by throwing on more gasoline...

Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 12:11 PM

Little Hawk, yep they have an inferiority complex. Maybe it's been a wrong train of thought on the Arab part for centuries. You have to have personal growth before you can have economic growth.

and the Arab world knows all they have is their oil and when we don't need their oil because we can get a lot of elsewhere such as China as you mentioned or more and more of those hybrid cars are on our roads I feel it makes them hate everyone else even more and feel that they have nothing to lose.

Israeli Jews ARE underdogs. And the key word you used is COUNTERmeasures. Response. Remember, we don't turn the other cheek, we hit back harder. That is why there will never be another Jewish holocaust.

Your reasonable minded Arab friends of which I have no doubt they exist, undoubtably live in fear for their lives, as they are quite the minority and I see none of them speaking out for the world to hear.

Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:01 PM

That's mainly because our News programs have little or no interest in airing the views of moderate people... :-)