queen refuses to attend wedding

Subject: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:39 PM

Once again, given a chance to show an understanding of the british people and their values the Royal family stay stuck in the 19th century. What can you make of a mother who refuses to attend her son's wedding for "protocol" reasons?
This incredibly disfunctional mob expect to be respected, expect to be seen as head of our state, but they haven't a clue.
Let's consign them to the real world and see how they survive without our money, our land, and our obeisance. Surely this makes Britain look totally ridiculous to the rest of the world?

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:40 PM

Sorry, should be BS

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:43 PM

Queen Charles will be there... isn't one enough?

It is so nice to see someone of his 'public standing' take such a decisive and positive step to show his support for same-sex marriage though...

I think those two men will be very happy together

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:45 PM

Well!!!...

See if she get my vote next election....

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Cluin
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:45 PM

Well, I won't be attending either.

Maybe Lizzie and I will stay home together with some beer and wings and watch some old Blackadder reruns.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Skipy
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:52 PM

I was @ his last wedding - yes I was! - & I'm not going to this one!
Skipy

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:58 PM

I gather she's going to the blessing in church, which is arguably the more significant part of the occasion.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 05:58 PM

She refused to come to mine either.

At least the richest lady in the land has agreed to pay for the booze-up.

I imagine that Lady Di is looking down and having a good chuckle. The Queen did agree to attend her wedding after all.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: DougR
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:00 PM

Yes, McGrath, I agree. That's the significant one I think.

Sorry to rain on your parade, though, GUEST.

DougR

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:02 PM

Significant only to those of faith. Britain is a basically non-practicing country. May God keep it that way seeing the example of others.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:06 PM

Hmph! I wouldn't go even if I were invited AND promised a good seat.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peace
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:17 PM

Didn't get MY invite, yet. Will let you know when I do.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:43 PM

I urge everyone who is not in London on April 8 not to attend.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peace
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:59 PM

But how shall we KNOW?

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:05 PM

"There will be a meeting of the protocol comittee in chambers on 26Feb., 2:00PM.. Wear foul-weather gear and eat a light lunch"

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:06 PM

Brucie, if you don't see the Tower of London or St. Paul's or Picadilly Circus or the Thames, you probably aren't in London.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:18 PM

But you don't need an invitatation to go to the wedding, it's in a public Register office. Anyone can go. (Well, the last one I went to, they wouldn't allow someone to take their dog in, but apart from that...)

Americans must find all this strange - so far as I can see, from films and that, people there seem to have weddings wherever they want to, which seems a reasonable enough idea.

I suppose the idea behind the restriction is, weddings are supposed to be in public, so that when they say "Does anyone know of any just cause of impediment?' or the equivalent, the bigamous wife's representative, or whatever, can shout out from the back, like in Jane Eyre.

They must be a bit nervous about that kind of thing this time - I don't mean bigamous wives, but someone publicly objecting. That could by why Mum isn't going, because it might be a teeny weeny bit embarrassing....

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:30 PM

Americans DO find it all a bit strange...so we have substituted our own brand of strangeness to replace Royal goings-on. We like to claim our system makes more sense, but after the last few years, I might prefer some British tabloid-type shenannigans to the scary bits we are enduring.

so, all-in-all, Charlie gets his lady-love, the press gets some headlines, the nation goes on and tea will be at the usual time whether the queen attends or not.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: LilyFestre
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:57 PM

Reported (via Dateline), the Queen is not snubbing the Royal wedding but rather trying to keep it low key as requested by Charles and Camilla. Also, she will attend the blessing of the union and is hosting the reception at Windsor (?) Castle. I'd say that gives everyone the big A-OK.

Michelle

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peace
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 08:54 PM

"Brucie, if you don't see the Tower of London or St. Paul's or Picadilly Circus or the Thames, you probably aren't in London."

I saw those things in the 1960s--while I was in New York.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 09:15 PM

You mean these aren't in New York?

Everything else is.

We even have some queens...

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peace
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 09:17 PM

...and a Bronx, Staten Island, Brooklyn, Manhattan: What ISN'T there?

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 09:19 PM

"trying to keep it low key as requested by Charles and Camilla"

Isn't that what it would have been like had LBJ kept his inauguration 'quiet' and tried to claim that it was in accordance to JFK's wishes?

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 09:25 PM

Plus we have a Prince.

And he can even sing.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peace
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 10:21 PM

I thought the Queen was married already.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 10:26 PM

What ISN'T there?

Well, me. I've been there twice. The first time someone ripped off my new Gore-tex jacket, and the last time was last October -- my cell phone got trashed by the current and my watchband broke on the plane coming back. I don't care for New York City.

And then there are Chicago hot dogs. They aren't there, either.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 10:37 PM

"I Love New York"!

Some parts of it, that is.
{I can't stand the roaches}...

And since there's people in the Big Apple from everywhere,
someone from Chicago's bound to selling their style of hot dogs.

But back to this London wedding I hear tell of:
Is it gonna be televised like the last one-
I mean the last one the guy was in?

That was a big hoopla as I recollect...

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:53 AM

Security reasons
??

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 01:35 AM

Was he even invited? And would Elton John had attended anyway?

What song would he have sung? 'Burn Down The Mission'?

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: JennieG
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 01:53 AM

Queenie will be back at the castle making the horses doovers and stirring the fondue for the reception after the blessing. One must eat, musn't one.

Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 05:54 AM

Brucie:- If you can see London Bridge you're in Lake Havasu City.
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: gnu
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 06:56 AM

And, she's throwing the reception at the Castle. All very proper. Then, they're all going on a fox hunt.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 07:38 AM

My invite arrived this morning I'll be there, would not miss it for the world.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:59 AM

First guest, it may be that you've misjudged the popular mood. Constitutional historian (and incidentally now the highest paid presenter on British TV) Dr David Starkey was quoted by the BBC as explaining the queen's decision thus: "It could be security, that she doesn't approve, or that she doesn't care - a position which would unite her with the majority of her subjects."

It may yet be that there will have to be an amendment to existing legislation for this marriage to proceed. UK statute law governing marriage prohibits Royals from civil weddings, and a former attorney general, Sir Nicholas Lyell, believes the queen has been badly advised by ministers on this point. The law was substantially amended in 1949 and the present lord chancellor believes this ended the constraint on royals. Yet the 1949 act apparently states specifically that its provisions do not apply to royals. The chancellor is expected to make a statement to parliament about this sometime today (Wed).

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:14 AM

Let us all just hope that they don't breed, they would be chinless fecking wingnuts, doesn't bear thinking about.

eric

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:10 AM

The palace spokesman I saw on TV this morning, dug her an even deeper hole. He made the point that had the wedding taken place inside Windsor Castle, as intended, no one would have known if the Queen had attended or not.

Stongly implying (to me anyway) - that she would not have attended under these circumstances either........

Security issues or not - I think the idea that the mother of the groom not caring about her son's marriage - is a non-starter. I think we are left with the third option - that she does not approve.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,SJ
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:30 AM

So what if she doesn't approve? Is mother's approval required for marriage nowadays? Does she have to sign a document indicating her approval? My mother didn't approve of my first marriage (nor did my ex-wife's mother either, and they were both right!) but it didn't stop us and it shouldn't stop them.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,nutty
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 11:17 AM

Comments about the legality of the wedding raise some interesting issues.

It was being argued on TV today that human rights issues allow Charles to be treated like a commoner and marry where he wishes.

If that is his right, then can I claim that,in order to fulfil my human rights, I have a right to be treated like royalty????

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:15 PM

The queen will be there at the honeymoon to direct operations.

Long live the queen

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 03:47 PM

I don't think the queen approves if she's throwing the reception at the palace. My wedding reception was held at the Bethesda Naval Medical Center's Officer's Open Mess (really!) and we didn't throw anything at anything or anybody. Unless she's just another litter lout....

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:15 PM

Perhaps it has escaped your understanding in some way that due to British "protocol"...the queen should not attend. I personally believe she should...whatever...as Charlie is her son..but as queen she has a duty to the constitution of the country and will not attend. Well done yet again Elizabeth...to sacrifice your family for the constitution. May God Bless Her and all who sail in her!
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,*Laura*
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:43 PM

I like the Queen.
I don't like her family but I like her - she always looks really pissed off when she's doing speeches, like she'd much rather be somewhere else.
I like to imagine she'd rather be curled up on a big sofa surrounded by her ugly little dogs wearing fluffy slippers and an old faded blue jumper watching Eastenders and munching on a Penguin biscuit.

xLx

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Nancy King
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 06:50 PM

The notion that the Queen is staying away because she wants to keep the event "low key" strikes me as totally ridiculous. There's no way this royal wedding in a public place will be "low key," whether she's there or not.

It is kinda fun to sit on this side of the pond and observe all the goings-on...

Nancy

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 07:10 PM

That bitch needs to be dethroned.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:13 PM

Ironic that the Lord Chancellor,in his statement affirming the legality of civil marriages for Royals, found it necessary to invoke the Human Rights Act 2000. I seem to remember Prince Charles having a good old moan about Britain having to put up with this namby-pamby legislation, foisted on it by the European Union.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,milk monitor
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:15 PM

Yes, he did. Humble pie for wedding breakfast?

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:35 PM

Well, I shall certainly be there. It promises to be quite an occasion. I'm sure the Queen has her own good reasons for not attending.

*PRW-J

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:56 AM

Me too GS, with ya all the way.
Nancy King - yep, I guess it must be fun, kinda like the fun we had this side of the pond watching the gormless show-biz party masquerading as an election over on your side. And the best thing is that, when it's all over, we'll just be left with a few toffs with hangovers and a guy and his wife who will only ever be toothless tigers, unlike the war-mongering, murderous low-life you were conned into saddling yourselves with. Have a nice four years.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:39 PM

Yeah, Johnny, you guys sure did get the better deal....   Sigh....

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: rockchick
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:13 PM

Got the invite but was washing my hair that day and also doing the garden so i had to decline the invite, afterall it is ones Prerogative.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 05:07 AM

LOL Nancy!
S:0)

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: skipy
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 06:09 AM

They probably don't want an aging rock band at the wedding anyway & they are not the same since Freddie died!
Skipy

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: s6k
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 06:12 AM

GOOD. now all we need is for the media not to attend, then maybe coronation street wont be cancelled to show the stupid wedding for weeks on TV, that nobody could give the slightest crap about.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Bill the Collie
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:23 AM

Bloody hell, have I missed something?

Is there to be a royal wedding? If so who is involved?


Maybe I should cancel the Independent.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:41 AM

Not sure that the wedding is certain.

Before then - there may be another car crash in another tunnel.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 12:00 PM

The wedding that really mattered happened way back in December last year...

The Marriage of the Century!

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 04:40 PM

Actually, she CAN'T (may not, that is) attend. The Queen cannot be seen entering or leaving a civil courthouse thingie, wherever it is they plan to be married. She (the Queen) IS hosting the reception.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 04:54 PM

And, they 'might' not even be allowed to marry in a civil ceremony.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 05:44 PM

My dog, Valdy, has indicated his refusal to attend also...

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: dianavan
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:19 PM

Little Hawk - You have a dog named Valdy?

My daughter's only claim to fame is that her 2nd hand bed used to belong to Valdy's daughter.

I thought we were the only people that knew Valdy.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:50 PM

I don't mean the singer. I really HAVE a dog named Valdy. And he says he will not attend the royal wedding under any condition. I will have to get CarolC to help me figure out how to post his pictures where y'all can see them, I guess...

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 07:40 AM

"The Queen cannot be seen entering or leaving a civil courthouse thingie, wherever it is they plan to be married." Utter crap, Mrr. Did you just make it up? Anyway, the ceremony will be in Windsor Guildhall, a building grand enough to have done Saddam proud in his heyday.

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Elsie
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 07:54 AM

Anybody else think the queen looks common with that handbag??

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 09:27 AM

think about it.. pensioner, married to an assylum seeker, 4 kids, none of them holding down a full time job,daughter divorced and on second marriage, two sons divorced, one son married with a little one and now the eldest(divorced/widower) is going to marry his long time mistress............can it be any wonder she doesn't want to go??? Reads like a script from Eastenders doesn't it!!!!!

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Obie
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 11:22 AM

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST,Obie
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 11:29 AM

My Queen and I are not on good terms of late, so I was not invited. My daughter visited London a few years back, and the Queen did not even invite her to drop by for tea. In return when the Queen visited Cape Breton a year later, I totally ignored her. She hasn't spoken to me since.
      Obie

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Spot
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 02:54 PM

Hello all....
                   Who really gives a stuff about Charles and Gorilla, anyway???   Poor guy always looks like he's lost the plot to me...Mind you, at least he's pro hunting.....

         Regards to all...Spot

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Feb 05 - 04:23 AM

IF ELTON JOHN WENT THERE WOULD BE A
QUEEN THERE ANYWAY

Subject: RE: queen refuses to attend wedding
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Feb 05 - 11:05 PM

Ha! Well, let's hope he does go, then...