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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 18 Mar 05 - 09:57 PM Yo, Dougie... Book you a flight to D.C. and I'll pick yer Bushite butt up at the airport and take you for sa little tour of an America that you know nothin' about... After you see it once you won't need a refresher course... And you'll know forever more that your hero, Bush, is a mirage... He doesn't have a clue about America or what it takes to be an American... I'm beginning to wonder about you, as well... Yeah, you can wish that every American had the same chance to suceed and had a right to happiness but then there's the real world... I know about the real world and would very much love to share it with you, Dougie... I know you have a good heart... Just bad information... Yeah, book the flight. I'll put you and Mrs. Dougie up in our guest room and take you, and the Mrs. if you like, on a tour of an America that you know *absolutely* nothing about. If you did, you wouldn't say some of the stuff you say here... Guarenteed... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Mar 05 - 12:54 AM How is it that 2 diametrically opposed groups of people in the USA can BOTH think that most of the same media in their one country has sold out to the other side? It's baffling and hilarious. (I begin to wonder if it's just a ploy to make the public feel disempowered or make them hate each other or something?) The same things are occasionally said by grumpy people in Canada too, but not nearly as much. The general scene in Canada is...well, let's say Toronto...is: The Globe and Mail is sort of centrist, vaguely old-time conservative in some respects, but not neoconservative. The Toronto Star is definitely liberal, but not radical at all. The Toronto Sun is Ultra-conservative and bizarre. They ARE radical. They seem to hate being in this country at all. The National Post is center-conservative, a little neo-conservative at times. In other words, 3 of them are kind of middle-of-the-road with some bias, and one of them ought to relocate to Dallas ASAP where they could feel happy! :-) As for Canadian TV, it could almost all be seen as fairly liberal in American terms, I'd say. Radio? All over the place, depending who you listen to. For a real good, gut-wrenching conservative viewpoint listen to Don Cherry. He talks about hockey. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: DougR Date: 18 Mar 05 - 12:27 AM Ever consider the fact, Don and Bobert, that your two may be so brainwashed that you don't recognize reality? Nope, didn't think so. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 17 Mar 05 - 01:14 PM Right, Bobert. Futile. All you need to do is report the facts. If the facts reflect poorly on Bush and his policies (as they often do), in the minds of some, that automatically makes the report "liberally biased." Truth be damned! It was the late Senator, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, I believe, who said, "You have a right to your own opinions. But you don't have a right to your own facts." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:36 PM See what I mean Don? These two guys are so utterly brainwashed that they can no longer distinguish news from entertainment... Maybe Hubby would like to give a few examples of the "liberal media" that he has observed over the last week or two... I'm really beginning to wonder just how they define "liberal media" as well... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:11 PM Don, Sorry to break this to you but the little bit of right of center news that makes it to the forefront is not near enough to balance the enormous amount of news that comes out with the left of center slant. Let's not forget.....and I know that I'll be rocked for this...but the most balanced news that I can find on TV is, honestly, the Fox News Channel. Now before you roll your eyes...I'm talking about the actual news reports on the top and bottom of each hour, not the opinion shows that run during the rest of the day. Let's make sure that the distinction is made. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 16 Mar 05 - 01:29 PM Jeez!! If you guys think that what comes out of your radio or television set is "liberal propaganda," then you're not just to the far right yourselves, you're in danger of coming full circle! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 16 Mar 05 - 01:21 PM Bobert wants me to read a bunch of his left winged links, as if we on the other side don't get enough of it allready since it blares out opf danged near anything that plugs into a wall... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 16 Mar 05 - 08:01 AM Here's your conservative media hard at work! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 16 Mar 05 - 07:51 AM BB, Give it up...Bobert is really a closet Bush supporter. I think Bobert is really Karl Rove just posting really unbelievable crap just to get the rest of the dems thinking that he really knows something.....think about it.......can ANYBODY really be that misled? Let all the dems follow Bobert's way of thinking.......we'll be assured of a republican administration for the next twelve to fifteen years and we'll have less taxes and more security for a long time to come.... Keep on preachin' bro. Bobert! Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 05 - 07:39 AM Just as I thought... bb wants me to read a bunch of his right winged links, as if we on the other side don't get enough of it allready since it blares out opf danged near anything that plugs into a wall... And as per usual, my ol' pal Dougie, doesn't think there is any reason why occasionally we cant't have afiscusssion about stuff that matters to folks over here on the pro-human, pro-earth side of the equation (which of course it isn't, equation that is...) Nither of them would get it if they lived to be a 1000 years old... Must be nice to be so barinwashed that you don't, ahhhh, actual;ly have to think... Questioner: "Mr. President, the economy is tanking, What are you gonna do?" Bush; "Cut taxes." Questioner: "Mr. President, what are you gonna do to fix Social Security?" Bush: "Cut taxes." Questioner: "Mr. President, what about the presence of Syria in Lebanon?" Bush: "Cut taxes and blow the bastards up." See, ain't much there to have to remember. Leaves lors of space for other imporatant things like what color yer next SUV will be..... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 16 Mar 05 - 03:36 AM Bobert, "I gave you a homework project that will illustrate my point, bb..." And I had previously asked questions that you *still* have made no attempt to answer. I do not see that you have any qualifications to teach me much besides closed-mindedness, nor have I asked for your instruction. Have a nice day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: DougR Date: 16 Mar 05 - 12:42 AM Some folks seem to think that in order for there to be legitimate news, the reporting must reflect the views they favor. Single sided view, so to speak. We had that for many years with the mainstream media. Fox News came on the scene, and the opposite view is presented. No fair, scream the folks who view the world in liberal terms. It's a no win situation isn't it? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:25 PM Thanks fir not screaming. It's real irritatin'... I gave you a homework project that will illustrate my point, bb... Now, since it is your *proclaimation" that the media is "liberal", not mine, how about doing the assigment. Leave yer little Bushite brainwasher's srudies alone long enough to step into the real world... Yeah, yer purdy good at pudders so it shouldn't hurt yer head too much to pull up the headlines from the dreaded "liberal* rag from September until the invasion of Iraq and print them all up here in Mudville and just let people decide for themselves, without the Heritage Council's of the world tellin' us what to think... Yeah, lookin' forward to the results of yer little homework assignment, bb... Maybe it will be the first step toward you examinin' just how you got the way you are... And *please8 spare me the crap about our side not being the ones listening. Your guy has the microphone, tha media and so that's about all we hear. And it's 24/7... No don't believe me. Go turn on you radio... If there are 50 stations talkin' right now about politics then I'll guarentee you that all 50 of 'um will be having a conversation about an agenda that Karl Rove has chosen, not the left!!! Guarenteed... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:10 PM "anti-war".... IMO, those making the most noise about the Iraq war have done the most to encourage it. Juat my opinion, which I guess I am not entitled to unless it agrees with Bobert.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:00 PM Bobert, You seem to be missing the point. I have never said that any single media source is liberal, per se- I *have* stated that all the studies I have seen the last 15 years or so show an *overall* bias among the print and TV media towards a liberal viewpoint. You have yet to demonstrate that those studies are flawed, nor have you presented *any* studies which contradict them. You are the one who seems insist on denying the facts. How about coming back with *one* example of the anti-war side asking Saddam to comply with the UN? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:12 PM Quit screamin', bb, and maybe some folks would take you more seriously. If you want to make a point use *'s around the word or phrases that you want to emphasize. Your behavior is rude and you won't win any arguements in cyberworld by trying to shout down others... Might of fact, until you learn to act more like a civilized person, sans the *juvinilistic screaming*, I think I'll just go back to ignoring yer ignorant self... And as fie yer claim about Saddam... All the media did was pound that crap into the American people's head with one headline after another about WMD's and CBS night after night pounding that PT brainwash crap into people heads... But don't belive me... Google Washington Post, the suppopsed "liberal" newspaper and register and go back yourself and read the head lines starting in Late September up until the invasion. One day after another of Bush PR druming... No, don't believe you. Just pull up one of yer right wing Bush sites and read a few warm and fuzzies over there... They'll make you feel better... Yeah, you want to get the rest of the story? How about coming back with a list of the headlines from the Post from September until the invasion... No, don't go cherry pickin'... List 'um all... And then tell me just how liberal the press is... Or, if facts ain't yer cup of tea then just keep on proving that "an ignorant man is Hell bent on proving his limitations"... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:09 PM http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias#Liberal_versus_Conservative http://www.fairpress.org/identify.htm But, of course, ONLY the LIBERAL media is allowed to present the "Proper" view about liberal bias in the media..... But try to address the POINTS presented rather than the fact you don't like the source- Or are you saying one should not bother to read about anything one doesn't agree with already? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:04 PM I can't think of any better way to get bb and hubby to accuse a genuine think-tank (as opposed to organizations such as the Heritage Foundation and that ilk), or any other agency--or for that matter, a totally disinterested visitor from Arcturus Twelve (say, and alien anthropologist studying the various life forms on earth)--of being liberally biased that to have them conduct a totally independent study and come to the conclusion that the media is not to the left of center, but to the far right. Guaranbloodyteed! And although he is a gentleman and a scholar and very bright, highly perceptive fellow, Bobert is not the only "enlightened" one among us. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:47 PM ALL I saw were the anti-war demonstrations- I did not see ONE single demonstration asking Saddam to comply with the UN requirements Which would have prevented the war. - So what does that say about the media? Oh, NONE of you ever demonstarted about THAT? Seems rather narrow minded of you...... Not to mention completely against the anti-war stand that you claim to support... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:33 PM And THAT is the reason that ALL sides of the political spectrum should be listened to, and given a chance to present their views. It seems that some here feel the ONLY acceptable viewpoint is their own. And yes, I mean YOU, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:32 PM Hey, bb, yer SCREAMIN' (like ahhh, caps... that's like screaming in cyberworld) doesn't make yer' you arguements any more believable, whci they aren't... If you were to spend one day in the mind of someone from the other side you'd then know just how friggin' ignorant you sound... We know about the media. You can't possibly because yer brain has been scubbed so hard that its a wonder you don't have migraines... But if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, you and hubby just keep chantin' that right winged mantra and offering proof by posting one right winged organization's "study" after another... Bottom line, you can't defend Bush's servie record so you and hubby would rather engage in "rope-a-dope", this-study-and-that-study tactics... Will either one of you answer me this question? When back in October before Bush ordered then invasion of Iraq there were anti war demonsrations in just about every major city in the entire world. Heck, the one in D.C. drew a quarter million folks and guess what? Did the supposed "liberal" put these demonstrations on the front page? Page 2? 3?... Well, I'll tell what... It barely got reported. Page 17 in the POst and then the 15 or so war monging Bush-heads got as much press as the 250,000 anti war folks... Real friggin' "liberal", guys... Yeah, real friggin' liberal... Same thing happened in November... Millions of people around the world in the streets. May 500,000 in DC... Larry in New York reported at least 500,000. London: 1,000,000!!! But did your "liberal media report any of this on the front pages and if some papers did where was the placement of the story??? Bottom left where it gets lost... But don't let me interupt that circle jerk that you and hubbt got going... Must be nice to be so barinwashed that you don't really actually have to think... Now go find another "study" by the Heritage Council to post... BObert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:29 PM BB, You are exactly right in what you are saying. Even the selection in what news stories that are going to run every night are left up to people with an opinion. Those opinions are going to be what makes up the news. It doesn't matter what the political leanings are of the person delivering the news, it only matters when the finished product is presented to the people. How it's decided upon, formed, shaped, edited, and presented, even what words are emphasized, are carefully crafted by people with opinions on that particular subject. It's even amazing on what people think is newsworthy. Bobert, evidently, thinks that anything that remotely shows the Bush administration in a negative light is newsworthy. I, on more than a few occasions, have been accused of being a KOOL-AID drinker or follower or whatever it was that was said. But at least I take the time to research the things that are important to my family and me. If I can see what may be a good thing for us then I will support it. There are a few things that I disagree with Bush about. But I digress. The point is that as long as fallible humans are responsible for relating information to the rest of us then we are at the mercy of what their particular beliefs are whether they are left or right of center. Unfortunately, most of the reporters and editors are far left of that mark. I don't think that anybody can be truly "center". Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:58 PM Pew? What exactly WILL you accept as an "impartial" viewpoint- the Guardian? I may have been unclear- I will agree that Fox is somewhat to the right of center in many opinion programs- BUT the studies look at the media as a WHOLE, asking about the reporters, editors, and newsgatherers. In those studies, the majority have been to the LEFT of center. Regardless of Bobert's opinion, if MOST of the media is LEFT of the POPULATION if is trying to "enlighten, that is a LIBERAL BIAS. Please show me a single study of the media that shows any other bias. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:16 PM Whew.... I'm sure glad to find out that Bobert is the only "enlightened" one among us.... I need a beer...... Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 03:54 PM Don, Thanks for the assist... But don't expect it to change any of bb's arguments since all the so-called "studies" that he will point to are studies that have been conducted by folks like the Hertige Council... In other words, not actual objective studies but academic exercises to keep the loyal followers in the dark... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Alba Date: 15 Mar 05 - 03:35 PM Well if Dan Rather got false information and reported it as fact then got fired for not doing his homework...well...(aside from taking the heat off regarding GW's Military record...sadly...) that's how it is when you go ahead stating unconfirmed information as Truth. Thankfully though no-one got killed through Dan the Man's bad intelligence. What I can't grasp is when the information regarding Nuclear programmes in Iraq was found to be false but reported as Fact and a War was started using said dubious information...why is the President Bush still in Office! Seems the the loss of Dan Rather (regardless of your opinion of the Man) will have less Global impact than the fact that 51% of the People in this County chose to ignore the false information that was used to put our Military into Iraq and re elected the people that didn't do THEIR homework. The battle cry in the beginning was not "to bring them Democracy". It was most definetly and clearly that Iraq/Hussein was a threat to the World due to his Nuclear/Chemical weapon program and Colin Powell had the documents to prove it ( producing them at the UN) and the President confirmed these ( now known to be false...but not to the man at the top???) facts when he addressed the Country about his decision to send in the Troops to oust Saddam and find the WMDs. None of the people who Spun that Tale lost their jobs in fact they got to keep them for another 4 years, some of them got promotions! Confused and just a bit pissed off at the double standards applied. A lie is a lie no matter who the Liars are. The consequences though are vastly different! Jude |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:58 PM That's ONE instance. But let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Who owns what? You don't bite the hand that owns you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:53 PM Fox News Service. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:43 PM Bobert, As I have said, SHOW ME THE NUMBERS! All the studies I have seen over the last 15 years show a LIBERAL bias in the TV and print media. I have given examples- why can't you provide even ONE instance, if you think that the conservatives control the media? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:26 AM Those who live in glass houses..... and as fir the "liberal media" BIG LIE? Hahahahahahahahahahah..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:47 AM Bobert, I'm afraid that you've stepped a little far out on that limb this time......Leave the new manufacturing to the guys who are good at it.......the guys at CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN and the numerous liberal media outlets available on the net. At least when they manufacture a story, it takes at least thirty minutes to find the correct info to discredit them. Unfortunately, in your case, as soon as we see your moniker, we instantly know we're getting ready to read a load of BS. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:04 PM Make that "main stream media", troll... There *are* better sources for getting more fatcual information... The internet being one... Pacifica another... "The Lowdown", etc... And, hubby, as Don pointed out, CBS not being able to verify the documents 100%, in spite of the woman who typed them agreeing that they represented the crux of what they contained was true, this does not changes the facts of the case. Bush didn't finish out his obligation. Ken Starr, if given a small staff, budget and supaona power could prove this in a couple of weeks... I mean, if you bother to research it, there's enough info that has been posted here in Mudburg to get any reasonable jury to convict... No, not a bunch of handpicked Bush worshipers such as yourself but *reasonable* people... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 13 Mar 05 - 12:36 PM And they called Reagan "the Teflon president." No matter what he did, nothing would stick to him. Compared to what Bush gets away with, Reagan was a piker. So Rather's staff screwed up on verifying a couple of documents. Several people, including Bush's commanding officer, have verified that even though the documents were not the original copies, what they revealed about Bush was true. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 13 Mar 05 - 10:16 AM "and doesn't bode well for Thomas Jefferson's warnings that the success of democracy depends on an informed electorate..." I thought that is what happened....Rather was given false information, that information was broadcast as real, information proved as false thus informing the electorate that CBS news cannot be trusted to tell the truth. CBS is once again singled out for doing nothing but showing blatant bias towards the left and going as far to have reported something as fact when obviously, as most liberals often do, they have built their hopes and dreams upon the sand and then bitch about their bad luck when high tide comes rolling in. But somehow, I think you guys will find a way to blame the rich man for your short- sightedness. Rather should have gotten the boot the day after he was made to apologize to the dozen or so viewers that CBS has left. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Troll Date: 12 Mar 05 - 10:25 AM Bobert, if the media didn't report it, how did you find out about it. Just curious. Rather committed the cardinal sin for journalists. He lost his credibility, possibily through carelessness and possibily because of hubris. When he kept insisting that the documents were genuine even after the experts had said they were not, he became a liability to CBS. Without solid credibility, a journalist is nothing more than a gossip columnist. In the eyes of his bosses at CBS (bottom liners to a man) poor credibility equals no job. Follow the money, Bobert. Rather cost them money so he had to go. Call it CBS' move to regain THEIR credibility. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Louie Roy Date: 12 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM I got to the point where I couldn't stand that arrogant SOB over a year ago so I turned off CBS.I missed a lot of good shows that CBS had to offer,and I watched CBS go from # 1 to a dismal # 3.I turned CBS back on the other day after Dan was gone and found out after a year maybe there are other station just as good and maybe better.Everyone to their own opinion but mine is this Dan shafted the public for 20 years and it was about time he got hit in the ass with a bullet |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:17 PM Right now the "liberal" are getting out muscled and out shouted, Doug, so you here much of anything out of them... That's what bugs me about the media... 51% of the people get 90% of the media coverage... Yeah, tune into any talk radio or talk TV (C-Span) and it's 90/10 or 95/5... That's why you don't know what is really going on... Like did you know that the Demopcrats were "locked out" of the the Congressional conference room last year where the Medicare "Peek-a-Boo, Now-Yer-Covered-Now-Yer-Not" Medicare perscription drug legislation was written. That's right. Locked the heck out. Like Key in the danged door, thank you. No, I didn't think you knew that. Why. Because this media didn't bother to report it... Heck, as far as I'm concerned this is a much bigger story than Clinton messing 'round with Monila Lewinski. But the media didn't bother to bring it up. That's what I mean... The media is going along with what ever Bush wants and if they should stray, they will also get a bullet. This was a serious shot fired accross the bow of the good ship "Truth"... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:13 PM Yes, I'm definitely biased. But I'm not making this up, Doug. Various liberal groups have already called for the revocation of Bush's honorable discharge from the ANG, but remember, that's Texas. They've been studiously ignored. What else is new? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: DougR Date: 11 Mar 05 - 05:42 PM Pauline, the report I heard was that Cronkite said, Bob Schieffer or someone else. Don: if, as you say, there is absolute proof that what Dan Rather reported about Bush is true, there are numerous Liberal organizations that would scramble to be the first to demand that the Pentagon revoke President Bush's Honorable Discharge from the Texas National Guard, and refund all funds he was paid as an active duty member of the Guard. That is a fact, and I don't see how you can refute it. You accuse me of bias. I admit that I am, but what about you, my friend? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Pauline L Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:02 AM Today's NY Times carried a scathing article on Dan Rather. Some of the issues raised are: 1. There is a traditional rivalry/enmity between print and TV journalism. (This may account, in part, for the scathing nature of the article.) 2. Dan Rather liked to think of himself as a reporter rather than a news anchor. He believed that he could do more than read the news. 3. Rather tried to be the news, not just write it. 4. Walter Cronkite said that CBS should have chosen Bob Schieffer, not Dan Rather, to succeed him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:09 PM The information has been out and around for a long time, Doug. Established. If you missed it, it's because you had your nose pressed to the screen, filling your eyes and mind with Bill O'Reilly and friends. I could give you a pretty good list of links to documents, but they've already been posted several times, and you wouldn't believe it anyway. It's all "liberal press." Anything that doesn't praise Bush to the skies is obviously "liberal press." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:35 PM And then DougR woke up... That's what we are talking about, Dougie.... Your guy ent AWOL and like he can'r prove he didn't so guess what? Well, I'll tell ya what. Dan Rather, who dodged bullets in Nam, is gonna take the wieght for yer guys' AWOL!!! Don't bother you? Din't think so.... Just remember how amny folks jumped on the bandwagon on Germany in the late 30's. Same crap, different day... You can chooze to just make jokes about it. Heck, that's fine with me 'cause we *both* know that yer guy is not aonly a crook but a facist.... Hey, like Walter Cronkite used to say: "That's the way it is." I can live with facists better who are honest about it than folks who deny it... Lets start getting real here. Have you studied history? No, not the mythology that is taught in public schools... but history? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: DougR Date: 10 Mar 05 - 08:08 PM I don't understand why folks like Don Firth still insist that the story about Bush's National Guard duty is true. If it were, EVERY network would jump on it like flies on you know what. You say you can prove it, Don, send your information to CNN, ABC, or NBC. I'm confident they would love to broadcast it. Hell, even Fox would broadcast it, provided of course the information you provide is credible. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: John Hardly Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:22 PM The press has gone a long way toward silencing itself. The times they are a-changin'. MOST people get MOST of their "news" from the internet. Then they might tune in to the evening news to see moving pictures of what they've already made up their informed minds about. The news cycle is too fast, too 24 hours, to expect much from the evening news. And alternative, even better sources are out there -- Sources that admit their biases so that you can better make up your mind. More importantly, there are now sources out there that make it impossible for stories to get "spiked" as they once did. Used to was that you'd watch the news and wonder why the logical conclusion of the story never seemed to happen. Now you see stories unfold and the better sources show themselves pretty fast as their "predictions" come true (while the not-so-good source's "predictions" don't). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: gnu Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:17 PM Over fourty years of excellent service. Some in harm's way. Many, many times defending the poor and ignorant against the rich and knowledgeable. And it's being trivialized for one mistake, IF it was that. It's a damn shame. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:13 PM Well, well, well... Seems like quite a few folks don't particularly like poor 'ol Dan Rather. Heck, I'll admit that I'm not much of a CBS fan myself, except for "60 Minutes"... But the point I was trying to make had less to do with Dan Rather than about the power of the current administration... And they are not above "dirty tricks"... I mean, Karl Rove makes Lee Atwater look like a Boy Scout... With the recent arrempt by the FCC to further consolidate media ownership, I am fearfull that the Bush asministration has gone a long way toward silencing the press. Even the Wsahington Post admitted that it had not been vigilant in questioning Bush's pre-invasion statements. Like when a newspaper such as the Post backs down from reporting the news, that is pretty scarey and doesn't bode well for Thomas Jefferson's warnings that the success of democracy depends on an informed electorate... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST,marks Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:03 PM I am sending an application to CBS to take over Dan Rathers job. I am completely qualified. I can read. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bill D Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:58 PM I wonder why biased reporting doesn't do in Bill O'Reilley, Joe Scarbourough and Robert Novak? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Once Famous Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:16 PM Dan Rather got his. Too cool. His biased "reporting" did him in. No more Dan "Rather" than Walter. |
