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BS: spider bite!!!

tarheel 30 Apr 05 - 04:56 PM
Amos 30 Apr 05 - 05:05 PM
Peace 30 Apr 05 - 05:08 PM
Georgiansilver 30 Apr 05 - 05:09 PM
Rapparee 30 Apr 05 - 05:27 PM
Bill D 30 Apr 05 - 05:32 PM
Peace 30 Apr 05 - 05:34 PM
Deckman 30 Apr 05 - 05:41 PM
Joe Offer 30 Apr 05 - 05:42 PM
McGrath of Harlow 30 Apr 05 - 06:05 PM
GUEST 30 Apr 05 - 06:11 PM
Peace 30 Apr 05 - 06:14 PM
Ebbie 30 Apr 05 - 06:30 PM
Deckman 30 Apr 05 - 06:38 PM
GUEST,Don Firth 30 Apr 05 - 06:46 PM
Peace 30 Apr 05 - 06:51 PM
Deckman 30 Apr 05 - 06:53 PM
tarheel 30 Apr 05 - 08:18 PM
tarheel 30 Apr 05 - 08:25 PM
Ebbie 30 Apr 05 - 08:28 PM
Sorcha 30 Apr 05 - 08:35 PM
annamill 30 Apr 05 - 08:37 PM
Mark Cohen 30 Apr 05 - 09:52 PM
Ebbie 30 Apr 05 - 10:08 PM
GUEST,Don Firth 30 Apr 05 - 10:09 PM
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Subject: BS: spider bite!!!
From: tarheel
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 04:56 PM

a small spider bit me on the back of my neck last wednesday...
thursday morning i awakened with a golf size knot on my neck and sore as all get out!
i am on antibiotics for a week along with taking pain pills that puts me into la,la, land for hours at a time...
i probably got the bite by the tiny little !@#$% creature while taking my dog on our daily walk through the woods....
just a note of caution,especially those with young kids...
check your kids for ticks,spiders on them each day they come into your home from playing outside!
you would not want to tolerate the crap i'm going through just to get over the !@#$ spider bite!
and...on that note,here's is a revised version of a little nursery rhymne that we have all heard as kids...
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Little Miss Muffet
Sat on Her Tuffet
Eating her Curds and Weigh
When down came a Spider
Sat down beside her
****then TARHEEL took his DOUBLE BARREL SHOT GUN and BLEW it to KINGDOM COME!!!
luv ya's all!
tar


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Amos
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:05 PM

My sympathies, tarheel. I have spent much time of late watching a large spider work her magic web-building in the evening and it always astonishes me how much she knows.
Ya got to wonder how that much know how can be stuffed into such a small head!!!! But as to the bite, I hope it heals fast and you get on tyop!!! You deserve better!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:08 PM

Glad you're gettin' better, Chuck. What kinda spider?


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:09 PM

Incy-wincy spider,
Biting Tarheels neck.
Came up like a golfball,
Rendering him a wreck.
Incy-wincy spider,
Now you're on the run.
Somebody told you,
Tarheels got a gun.
Incy-wincy spider,
You may think you're fast.
But Tarheel's gonna catch ya,
And shoot ya.............


Best wishes, Mike.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:27 PM

Not at all cool. I've been there, but not that bad.

Good luck and get well -- you ain't gonna let a little ol' spider getcha, are you?


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:32 PM

curds and *WEIGH*???? arrrggghhhhhhhhhh

(but,of course, it would get by a spell checker)


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:34 PM

Took a few of the boys to get it off Chuck. Pic here.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:41 PM

Being a deck builder, spiders are a very serious concern to my crew and me, here in the Pacific Northwest. We usually start a project by tearing out and disposing of a rotten deck, sometimes we have to move stacks of rotten firewood.

I've been bitten three times, none have proved to be fatal so far. I have known two men who died of "Brown Recluse" bites. And this is while the experts tell us that there are no Brown recluse spiders here.

Treat 'em with respect. CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:42 PM

Ticks are the problem here. My mother-in-law got three tick bites a couple of years ago, when she was 88. She had to have medical treatment each time, a fairly strong course of antibiotics. The same year, I got a tick bite way down in my navel - I thought i was goona die. We took out the carpets and did a number of other things to prevent future bites, and they've worked pretty well.

Spider bites can be even worse. Good luck, Chuck.

-Joe Offer, in the California Sierra Foothills-


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:05 PM

How about this story about something that's jusr happened in England - Hospital releases deadly spider

"A deadly spider that bit a chef has been accidentally released by the Bridgwater hospital treating him."

Well, they say the poor creature was "accidentally released", but you know how the English are about animals...


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:11 PM

Flaming heck McGrath - I've just looked at the pic - if a spider that size moved into my house he could have it!! It's like something out of a science fiction movie! I'm not an arachnophobe as I quite like money spiders although they still haven't brought me any.......


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:14 PM

The west coast is home to a few nasty critters.

Black Widow

Hobo Spider (bites often mistaken for that of Recluse)

Various Recluse Spiders

California tarantulas I've seen look a bit like this (which is South American)

Y'all be careful out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:30 PM

Deckman, southeast Alaska also has the brown recluse. One of its bite's attractive effects is to create a necrotic area surrounding the bite. A friend of mine vacationing in Haines went to the doctor to have her leg looked to- it had an angry painful raised circular spot on it bigger than a dime. All the doctor could prescribe was benadryl. Eventually, the core area dropped out, leaving a hole in her leg which eventually filled in except for a dimple.

(Hummmph. Now I don't know what to believe. I just looked it up and found this. I see what you mean about the official view, Bob.)

by Rick Vetter, M.S. updated October 2004

"Throughout the United States, spiders get blamed as the cause of many dermatological wounds in medical diagnoses. In virtually every case, NO spider is seen nor felt inflicting a bite, nor is the alleged spider collected in the incident. "Potential spider bite" diagnoses are made solely on the symptoms of the lesion. In the case of necrotic wounds, "brown recluse spider bite" is a very common conclusion of medical personnel throughout North America including such ludicrously inhospitable places as Canada and Alaska where no brown recluses have ever been found. This is in spite of the fact that the brown recluse spider (Loxosceles reclusa) is native only to the South and central midwestern states (circumscribed by southeastern Nebraska south to Texas, east to Georgia/westernmost tip of South Carolina and southernmost Ohio with additional rare finds being made beyond this area). In addition there are several related species that exist in the southwestern U.S. deserts from Texas to California; however, they do not inhabit the coastal California regions where most of the human population is concentrated. (see distribution map at http://spiders.ucr.edu/images/colorloxmap.gif)   The members of the genus Loxosceles are known as recluse, violin or fiddleback spiders. Occasional, RARE occurrences of the brown recluse do occur outside this region because of the spider's proclivity to hide in boxes and the subsequent movement of possessions or commerce from its native area. However, occurrences outside the native areas are still extremely rare and they typically encompass finds of single specimens only, not burgeoning populations of these spiders."

Nice Stuff


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:38 PM

What ticks me off (no pun intended) is the knee jerk reaction of the so called bug experts around here. Twice I've taken dead spiders into the offices of these specialists and asked if this was perhaps a "brown recluse" spider. Each time, without even looking at the critter, they both responded with ... "There ain't no brown recluse in western Washington."

I've actually known five men here that have been bitten by brown recluse. Two of them were Safeway produce men who got bitten as they were unpacking fruit from Eastern Washington. And as I said before, two others died.

And as Brucie pointed out in the posting just above, the hobo spider is one of the deadlist kinds.

Just like a lady I knew a hundred years ago ... the smallest can sometimes be the deadliest!!!! Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: GUEST,Don Firth
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:46 PM

For the first nine years of my life, I lived in Pasadena, California. There were black widows around, and every once in a while you'd read in the paper about some local child who'd died of a black widow bite. A next door neighbor's dog that I used to play with a lot got killed by a black widow bite (according to the vet—he'd seen a lot of pets killed that way).

We were warned never to stick our hands anyplace we couldn't see into. And any time a black widow was spotted in the house, it called for an all-out search-and-destroy mission. We kids were all issued fly-swatters and told, "If you see it, hit it as hard as you can!" I flattened the hell out of a few of them. WHOP!!! WHOP!!! WHOP!!! Then WHOP!!! It again!!

Most of the spiders we have around where we live now are benign, common garden spiders, but I still don't want 'em in the house.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:51 PM

We had a hobo spider found in Grande Cache--just 150 km to the west of us. Must have come in by truck hauling food from California (we get lots of it from there). Surprised us here in Alberta where the most dangerous things we have are rattlesnakes in the south, ticks that carry Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever to the west, ticks that carry Lyme disease all over, deer mice that carry parvovirus, and politicians that carry our tax dollars, usually off.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 06:53 PM

Ebbie, you are exactly correct, as to the damage that a brown recluse bite causes. The flesh is dead ... gone ... nothing can be done to bring the flesh back to health. In all cases that I've witnessed, serious surgery eventually results in a huge "hole" in the infected area. And that sometimes doesn't even stop the damage.

One of the things that drives my son nuts about my work style is that I can NOT wear gloves when I work. I have to have my skin and fingers in touch with the wood, no matter what I'm doing.

Whenever he cautions me about the likelyhood of spider bites, I usually remind him that it is well known, that any damned critter that dares to bite me will die before I die. Really. Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: tarheel
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 08:18 PM

guess i need a GARFIELD CAT to protect me from spiders..SPLAT!!!
anyway,the thing that really bothers me is i dont remember being bitten by the spider...when i was awakened thursday morning,the bite was golf ball size and sore,really sore! thought i had a tumor or cist about to burst! the ER folks here assured mne it was not a tumor,etc...but probably a spider bite! so,ive been nursing it as the instructed...so far,its still sore and about half as big,but bothersome...no way to lay my head down without causing it some irritation! it also made my neck and left shoulder sore as heck,too!...man,the pain medication is worth taking...lol drift off into la,la land for at least an hour or so...but the anibioctics are staring to kick in too!
thanks everyone for your concerns,wishes,sense of humor and just being here...it helps a lot! bless you all!...tar


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: tarheel
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 08:25 PM

BTW...tomorrow,SUNDAY,is peg's birthday and...you didn't hear it from me that she's 69 years old now!!!lol
she wont be mad! to her ,it's just another day,year or century!!!
but...without her,me and the spider would be pushing up daisy's about right now!!!she's the salt of the earth!...tar


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 08:28 PM

'Rick Vetter MS's credibility just sank with me. He says "such ludicrously inhospitable places as Canada and Alaska , which has the definite implication that spiders do not/cannot live in Alaska. And yet we know that other spiders do live in Alaska; I've seen them in the woods and around outbuildings, and certainly plenty of them in homes. If SOME spiders can live in Alaska why can't others? Or is there a tropical component to spider life?

Off the subject but I just remembered: In Virginia where I lived as a girl I once took away a piece of wood from a woodpile, exposing a hairy spider which literally shook and jumped up and down. I was astonished. Does anyone know what kind that would have been? The closest thing I could think of was a tarantula but it was a great deal smaller.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 08:35 PM

Just hope it's days or weeks...I know a woman who was off work for 6 mos after a brown recluse bite. We have both b. widows and recluses here.

I really like most spiders but those I kill on sight.

Chuck, if the damn thing won't heal, try putting granulated sugar in the wound. Dr told my mom this and it really helps to fill in the rotted tissue.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: annamill
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 08:37 PM

Ok! Ok! That's it! My wonderful brother-in-law just gave us a 1985 Ford Bronco as a second car. Problem is, it's been sitting in his driveway in Salinas, CALIFORNIA, for over a year. It's never been opened or started in that time. I've been laughing at my husband for being a "big baby" because he is afraid there might be a dangerous spider lodging in this car. After I hartily apologize to him I will then suggest a strong BOMBING of the car. Maybe twice! Do you think this will get rid of, as in KILL, all deadly insects in this car?? and what about in the engine area. I'll bomb there too. Gads! Now I'm afraid to walk my little Maxie. She's only a tiny Maltese.

We never had these problems in New Jersey!

Chees! Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 09:52 PM

Don, we had lots of "common garden spiders" on the Big Island. They are benign, but they sure don't look benign, especially when you come up on one at eye level. They all hang out in their webs with their legs paired off as in the picture, so they look like a big "X".

Aloha,
Mark

PS Hawaii has black widows and brown widows, but no brown recluse. But that doesn't stop lots of ER docs here from diagnosing brown recluse bites.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 10:08 PM

Ain't nothin' common about that there spider, Mark. eeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkk

(And I like spiders)


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: GUEST,Don Firth
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 10:09 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: GUEST,Don Firth
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 10:12 PM

Wow, Mark! Just the sight of that thing and I got a nervous twitch in my mouse finger. Harmless or not, that sucker would sure bring me up short!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 10:24 PM

Mark,

I just wonder who walks it.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 10:45 PM

"Does anyone know what kind that would have been?"

The wolf spider is hairy but isn't much for jumping. The jumping spider is, though. The jumping spider is much as you describe. It resides--amongst other places--in Virginia.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 11:22 PM

I disturbed a couple of wolf spiders this afternoon when I was digging up a flower bed. They had the ball of eggs tucked under their abdomens and were trying to stay out of my way, as I was theirs. I have colonies of tarantulas in the yard. They're fascinating. Big as they are, they're quite delicate and they stay out of the way. Occasionally I'll see one on the porch or the house, but to see them most of the time we do flashlight tours in the evening and visit the known spider holes. They're about the size of a ping pong ball, with the grass around them a bit groom out of the way.

We also have black widows (they're a beautiful spider, and they eat fire ants, but they're not good to have around the house) and brown recluse. I try to avoid getting into areas where they might decide to live.

In my Dad's garage in Marysville, Washington I encountered some of the biggest, squishiest spiders I'd ever seen (prior to tarantulas). I was out there working on his estate and had to poke in every noon and cranny that hadn't otherwise been disturbed in years. If you swat them they squish like a sort of chocolate cream.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Kaleea
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 11:32 PM

Just when I thought it was safe to go into my house. . .It must be spidey season, as the creepy crawley things have been on walk about in my house. I awoke a couple of mornings ago to find a nasty bite on my arm. I later found the creature behind my bed. I've had to send a few of the nasty things to the great beyond.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 11:33 PM

leapin' lizards, brucie! I didn't know there was such a thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 11:45 PM

http://tolweb.org/accessory/NA_Jumping_Spiders_Photos?acc_id=2023

May find it in thsi photo album. It has pics of the jumping spiders in the US and Canada. I have encountered one once before. They are funny to watch.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 11:53 PM

Now listen up, arachnobopes....ain't nuttin wrong with wolf spiders, tarantualas or them other spiders. I just move the little wolfies outside, never met a tarantuala I didn't like, and yes, the Black Widows are very beautiful...and quite deadly. And yes, in spring and fall they do tend to come inside (or show up inside) more.

We have quite large Orb weavers here...sheesh they are pretty. I liked your spider pic, Dr Mark! (then, we all know I'm pretty weird)


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 11:55 PM

Unless you meant this, Ebbie.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 May 05 - 12:15 AM

Nasty Nasty little buggers

Cleaning leaves three years ago....a black-widder climbed up the denim jeans pants leg and nibbled me in the calf.....not until three days latter did the most peculiar (Trantella type) responce begin.

For my brother it took several years - until a "witch-craft brother" broke through the necrophied sack and three years of disease and infection boiled into one. It would have like to have killed him.

Sincerely
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 12:24 AM

I live in a basement apartment. Soon the little darlings will be showing up indoors. I like spiders and enjoy watching them in their natural habitat. Soon as they come in MY natural habitat I spray them to death every week. (I know Raid is not nice, I KNOW.) However, despite the daddy long legs being an extremely poisonous member of spiderdom, I'm aware they can't bite humans, so I always take them outside before the Raid.

As SRS pointed out, the tarantulas in North America are pretty cool. They are wonderful to watch because indeed they are 'tame', although they are not friendly. The year I took two as pets was the years I first ever saw a live tarantula. There were literally hundreds of them crossing the mountain highway my buddy and I were travelling. He said it had been so dry that they were likely descending to get to the Stanislaus River and hence water. I watched one of the tarantulas 'hunt' a grasshopper I'd put in the cage I made for them (the cage was about five feet by three feet by two feet high). I'd placed a BIG live grasshopper in there and the one I called Stanislaus went from one end of the cage to the other in what I can only describe as a slow blur. He turned that insect which started out as a plump three inch grasshopper into the cubed remains of the exoskeleton that measured maybe 1/2" on a side. BTW, I knew that Stanislaus was Stanislaus because he had taken a leg off Tarantula (pronounced Tar an TU la) in a domestic quarrel. They were both the same sex I guess--or someone had a headache. Anyway, eventually, when I left California I released them into the wild. Canada Customs told me on the phone that I could NOT bring insects into Canada with me. My argument that spiders aren't insects fell on deaf ears. After many phone calls, even Ottawa told me they were insects and so couldn't be brought back with me. I can't believe I vote for these assholes. Anyway, that's that for now.

PS Their bite is very unpleasant, but it heals quickly if you clean it out well. And ya get to stay alive provided you were fairly healthy to begin with.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 01 May 05 - 12:26 AM

Deckman, for awhile every necrotizing spider bite in the Pacific Northwest was deemed to be that of the Brown Recluse, but in fact, it is the Hobo Spider, that we now have here, that is causing the problem. Of course, when it comes down to it, what's in a name, they both pack a hell of a wallop. My cousin's wife was bitten on the face by one and it caused some serious problems for her.
Hobo Spider in the Pacific Northwest


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 12:35 AM

Goliath Birdeater--that feathery stuff beneath it is a bird.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:45 AM

Gadzooks. I thought I liked spiders.

I guess I'll give up the notion that the brown recluse is found in Alaska. The Hobo Spider is no doubt the spider that bit my friend. The sore on that finger looks just like the sore on my friend's calf, although I realize the article says that the effects are the same in both species' bites.

I believe that all the doctor gave her was benadryl- but I may be mistaken. I know it took a long time for it to heal.

On the photo album of spiders, brucie, the one that looked most like what I saw in Virginia is 'Eyarcha'. I'm not sure though; the spider I saw was facing me and raised up on its legs.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:51 AM

Has it ever struk you that someone makes these names up?

Evarcha albaria
Evarcha amabilis
Evarcha arcuata
Evarcha bicoronata
Evarcha brevis
Evarcha bulbosa
Evarcha cancellata
Evarcha cara
Evarcha chappuisi
Evarcha chubbi
Evarcha coreana
Evarcha crassipes
Evarcha dubia
Evarcha eriki
Evarcha falcata
Evarcha hoyi
Evarcha fasciata
Evarcha flammata
Evarcha flavocincta
Evarcha gausapata
Evarcha hyllinella
Evarcha infrastriata
Evarcha jucunda
Evarcha kochi
Evarcha laetabunda
Evarcha madagascariensis
Evarcha michailovi
Evarcha natalica
Evarcha nepos
Evarcha obscura
Evarcha optabilis
Evarcha paralbaria
Evarcha patagiata
Evarcha petrae
Evarcha pococki
Evarcha praecincta
Evarcha pulchella
Evarcha similis
Evarcha syriaca
Evarcha venezuelica
Evarcha vitosa

I won't ask.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: open mike
Date: 01 May 05 - 02:39 AM

i think deer mice carry hanta virus
not parvo...parvo is from dog saliva.

but we have lyme from ticks
heartworm from mosquitos
and i have a neighbor who
was bitten by a bat that tested
positive for rabies.

there is a song about how the little
bitty things will get you...

i think it has a line about a
wood kimono (meaning a casket)


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 02:40 AM

Right you are, OM.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: dianavan
Date: 01 May 05 - 03:03 AM

Thats why I always shake my boots before I step into them.

I think its odd that the cutest little spiders seem to do the most harm while the great big scary, Wolf spider is harmless. I always put spiders in a jar and liberate them outside.

Mosquitos on the other hand..........

... and wasps.........!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 01 May 05 - 03:07 AM

Brucie, the bit about "daddy longlegs are extremely poisonous but can't bite humans" is a myth. Many of the creatures that people call daddy longlegs (harvesters in the UK) are not even spiders. The truth is out there.

We had lots of jumping spiders on the Big Island, as well. When one of those guys is sitting on a countertop and you walk past him, he turns to follow you. (The fact that we had built our house in the middle of a macadamia nut orchard meant that we had many visitations from all kinds of critters: rats, mice, spiders, ants, geckoes, poisonous tree snails, bees, wild pigs...gives you a few second thoughts about "paradise," eh?)

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 05 - 03:45 AM

be thankful you don't live in Sydney! I had a close encounter with one of these 28 years ago - It was radiating evil, aggressive intent as it reared up at my then 6 month old daughter, who was crawling innocently towards it. it was ready to strike - I killed it immediately.

sydney funnelweb spider


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 05 - 04:40 AM

here's some more! red backs

aome like to lurk in their lairs, others like to pay a little visit!

then there is the australian bird eating spider

This is one of several species of large, aggressive spiders, which are found in the warmer and more arid regions of Australia. Some species are known as barking or whistling spiders because of the sounds they can produce by rubbing their palps (the appendages between the front legs) along a set of spines at the base of their fangs.

if that's not enough, our australian tarantulas are less passive than other versions. sometimes a hunstman spider will come into the house and look around - one crawled into my bedroom earlier in the year and i slept on the couch in the lounge room for three weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 01 May 05 - 06:08 AM

G'day Gargoyle,

You wrote:

... Cleaning leaves three years ago....a black-widder climbed up the denim jeans pants leg and nibbled me in the calf.....not until three days latter did the most peculiar (Trantella type) responce begin. ...>.

It's interesting (and music-related) that you tie the bite of a Black Widow Spider (latrodectus maculata ... ?) to the sort of "dancing sickness" symptoms traditionally ascribed to the original "Tarantula" of the Italian Taranto region - lycos tanantula).

Recent research suggests the the actual spider whose bite caused the "dancing" agitation that folklore insisted had to be removed by dancing to vigorous Tanantellas was not the hairy local wolf spider lycos tanantula ... but the much smaller black (and 13-spotted ... ?) latrodectus tridecimgutata - a cousin to your Black Widow ... and our Redbacked Spider (latrodectus hasselti.

I'm glad you survived without having to send someone to fetch a fiddler!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:09 PM

"Brucie, the bit about "daddy longlegs are extremely poisonous but can't bite humans" is a myth."

REALLY? Wow. The things ya learn on the 'cat. Thank you Mark.

But this is bad news . . . .

The daddy longlegs we have around here have the roundish body and it's not segmented. Thanks for the info, Mark. Now, if I could figure out where I got that idea . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:27 PM

Thank you, Mark. But I still ain't keepin' them as pets.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:49 PM

OUCH.

OK, so it's not a spider. But I had crabs once and they looked lots like this.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:53 PM

How to Make a Board" by Dave Barry. (It mentions spiders.)

Great piece of humourous writing. Hope it helps cheer you up, Chuck. Uh, let me restate that: Hope it helps cheer you up, Tarheel.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 06:01 PM

A father watched his daughter playing in the garden.
He smiled as he reflected on how sweet and innocent his little girl was.
Suddenly she just stopped and stared at the ground. He went over to her and noticed she was looking at two spiders mating.
"Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?" she asked.
"They're mating," her father replied.
"What do you call the spider on top, Daddy?" she asked.
"That's a Daddy Longlegs." Her father answered.
"So, the other one is a Mommy Longlegs?" the little girl asked.
"No," her father replied. "Both of them are Daddy Longlegs."
The little girl thought for a moment, then took her foot and stomped them flat.

"That might be OK in California, but we'll have none of that shit in Texas"


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 01 May 05 - 06:24 PM

Hahaha!

Seriously, though....this thread is creepy....


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 May 05 - 07:02 PM

I have allergic reactions to spider bites. A few years back one bite grew a brown tumor which appeared suspicious so it was biopsied. The lab results indicated that I had a malignant growth spreading under my skin and only a few weeks to live. Two specialist later, it was decided that I might have other symptoms if I were about to die and in fact it was an allergic reaction. I kept the lab report for my scrap book.

I love spiders. Not sure why but I carefully put them out of harm's (cat's) way. Last year I had a huge spider in a web just outside my front door. The web was spectacular especially when misty with dew. Hopefully, her family will return. There were thousands of tiny babies when the egg casing opened. Don't know about poisonous spiders in Maine.

But did anyone ever read the scifi classic "Prometheus Plague" ( or is it spider?) Firefly type roaches that start fires, communicate with each other and plan attacks. Burn every major city in the US to the ground. Great stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: spider bite!!!
From: open mike
Date: 02 May 05 - 01:31 PM

I heard of someone who had a brown recluse bite
which actually causes the bone in his finger to
be dissolved and needed to be replaced. Spider
bites often result in digestive enzyme fluids
actually digesting the flesh where the bite is.
Sometimes the only treatmet is to cut around the
tissue before the juices can spread. I guess
spiders do not get heart burn or indigestion ??

i have heard that about "grand daddy long legs"
having poisonous venom, but jaws that are not
able to pirece human skin.

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2060.html

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2060B.html


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