BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....

Subject: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:06 PM

Well, well, well...

I thought it was just all that danged hard assed work I'z been doin' movin' an' such but I'z been like real tired and havin' to take an afternoon nap and been a little on the dazed side wid the ol' thinkerator... No, I ain't so bad that I think George Bush is a good guy 'er nuthin' but been havin problems doin' math and seein' as I'z supposed to gearin' up to do another renovation, havin' a bummed thinkerator ain't good...

I thought maybe I was havin some dementia 'er halfhiemers stuff going on but, no, according to my doc a bl;ood test reveals that Iz got anemia... That's 'bout it... Yeah, she (my doc) had me have another blood test and though she ain't in until Monday mornin', her nurse said that the second test said the same thing: ANEMIA....

Well, she couldn't 'er wouldn't say if it was the kind that's badder than the other kind but did tell the P-Vine, upon the P-Vine's insistence, that it prolly ain't all that bad??? Whatever that means???

All I know is that yesterday I was tryin' to figure out the sqaure footage of a buildin' and I didn't have a clue what 7 X 7 was... And I was a little confused about a few other things... No, not George Bush...

Well, if anyone out there in Catburg has had similar stories 'er knows much about this stuff, I'd sure like to know 'bout it... Right now it has me a little concerned because I got way too much on my plate to be an idiot...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:09 PM

Be sure that what's on the plate has IRON in it! Spinach, I think, and liver.....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:19 PM

Ain't eatin no liver.... Period.... End o' discussion.... I'll eat dog doo before eatin' liver.... Yuck!!!!

Dog doo high in iron????

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:25 PM

Feed the dog the liver first.

You can buy supplements, too, but I think there are other foods high in iron.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:31 PM

Oh yeah -- see your vet for some worming medication if you're gonna run your iron through the pooch first. Clams, mussels and oysters are high in iron too, and probably tastier than dog crap.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:35 PM

HMMMM Probably not menopause. Have you been checked for an infection? A bleeding ulcer? Had a colonoscopy? Anemia doesn't just happen, Bobert. Improve your diet, add some iron supplements (and fiber or you will suffer), and find out what is causing it.

My anemia was related to a huge fibroid tumor - also not likely in your case. My son used to become anemic when he forgot to eat - too busy playing at summer camp.

The problem with it is that you are run down and open to all sorts of infections a healthy person wouldn't even notice. Plus you're tired, cranky, forgetful, cranky, pasty-faced, cranky...keep it up and Kendall will have a rival curmudgeon.

Keep us posted.
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:43 PM

I ain't CRANKY!!!

Aww, jus funnin'... Yeah, Iz been known to get a little torqued but, hey, Got Spot eatin' some liver so maybe by tomorrow afternoon there will be a little relief is sight....

Ahhhh, Heintz 57 'er BBQ sauce fir dog doo???

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: LilyFestre
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:09 PM

Hey Bobert,

    Are you taking any kind of medications? Sometimes they can deplete your iron supplies just as much as dietary intake. And how's your blood sugars? Any issues there? That kind of tiredness and confusion/unable to think of stuff you KNOW can be related to low blood sugars too.

   Having been anemic, all I can say is let me know if they give you iron pills and you can find a way to take them without being nauseated....man I hate those things and as a result...don't take them nearly as much as I've been told to. UGH.

Take it easy and don't be too hard on yourself...take those naps when you need them!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: jimmyt
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:10 PM

there are many types of Anemia, Bobert and I am sure your physician will get you all fixed up with little or no effort on your part and without liver! Until this happens, I would drink a lot of alcohol and do absolutely no yardwork or anything that could be considered being helpful. Maybe requesting breakfast in bed would also be a good idea. Whatever you can do to ride this a bit until you are expected to behave again! good luck!

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:33 PM

Well, jimmyt, I like yer thinkin' here... Excuse me whilst I fetch another beer abd seein' as it's dark, hey, no yard work either... Yup, looks like Iz allready on the jimmyt program....

As fir the Michelle program??? Hmmmmm??? Gonna have to wait to see what it entails... Maybe better to be a spaced out guy who ain't wortha sh*t???

My doc been tryin' to get my nightly sixpack jones off me and I know that's gonna be the 1st thing that come outta her mouth... What a prude... The gal don't know how to have no fun...

Nvermind...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:53 PM

MORE SEX!

Cain't hurt. Helps the napping, too, I hear. :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Alba
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:59 PM

Guiness Bobert, switch to Guiness or Stout...HOPS,now there's Iron in those..lol
Love
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: LilyFestre
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:00 PM

I'm thinkin' my favorite monk, Jimmyt and WYSIWYG are on the right track.....forget those nasty iron pills...bring on the naps, the lovin' and breakfast in bed!!!!!!!!!

WOOO WHEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Alba
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:03 PM

Guiness..lol..Michelle and Guiness:>)
Love and Light and Iron absorbtion to all,
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:11 PM

Bobert, I was anemic once, back about 15 years ago. Doc had me do a barium milkshake to see about ulcers, an endoscopy (they stick a light down yer throat), and a colonoscopy (they stick a light up yer...well, it ain't yer throat). I wanted 'em to do the endo and colono at the same time ("Doctor! I see a light!"), but they din't. They also din't find anything.

So they figured it was because I was taking Ibuprofen. Then about a year later I find out that a friend was also bad from taking Ibu -- in his case he was bleeding out through his stomach.

I quit taking it (except with food if there's nothin' else) and haven't had a problem since. I also take vitamins with iron.

My friend died. Not from the ibuprofen, from something else. Cancer, I think it was.

GIT IT CHECKED OUT!!!! Yer losin' blood someplace. If you don't want to do it fer yerself, do it for the P-vine. 'Cuz if you don't, I'm gonna come out there and hit you so hard upside the head yer brains are gonna rattle fer a month!

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Alba
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:29 PM

Yes Rapaire you right. All joking aside it would be a real good idea to find out why your Anemic Bobert...it usually is a sympton of something else going on.
Thinking of you and P-Vine
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:29 PM

Ain't just iron deficiency. You want B vitamins to be balanced, and sometimes a little Saint Johns wort can do wonders. But talk to a professional.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Alba
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:31 PM

Also Vitaman C aids the body in absorbing Dietary Iron.
Just another late night thought!
x

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:35 PM

So... sex, Guinness, naps, snuggling, dog doo, iron pills, and liver-- that the right descending order of priority? or did I miss one or two items?

Music! Forgot music-- the Anemia Blues. Geez, at least it ain't the Jake Leg!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Alba
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:37 PM

LOL Susan...I think you have it:>)
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:41 PM

Bobert, like the Rap said. Get thee to a doctory, luv.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:49 PM

I have difficulty digesting and assimilating iron supplements, so I take a quarter of a tablet of betain hydrochloride (hydrochloric acid) with my iron supplements. That makes it possible for me to digest and properly utilize them. You might want to consider giveing this a try, Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 12:31 AM

I did a little browsing, Bobert, and I learned that not all anemia is caused by iron deficiency, although iron deficiency is the most common cause. Better keep checking with the doctor till this is all figured out.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 12:33 AM

Don't worry about not remembering what 7 x 7 equals. When I was in the fourth grade and they told me that 7 x 7 = 49, I didn't believe it. I still think it's counterintuitive.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: GUEST,sandra in sydney
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 10:20 AM

Bobert - one of my male friends has been anemic for years & takes iron tablets. I think he also keeps healthy snacks (nuts? fruit?) around for when he feels tired.

I hope your particular anemia gets sorted out soon.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 10:51 AM

I thought anaemic was an Irishman that only reached halfway up your leg, but since they invented PC I'm not so sure. Mind you I'm half Irish myself so maybe I better start thinking about dog shit. Talking about shit, one of the well known side effects of taking iron tablets is constipation, so there's another reason for drinking lots of Guinness.
Try chewing a bit of liquorice too, that should give you a good run for your money!
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 10:55 AM

Maybe your body is used to eating and breathing the soil of another place, after all the years of pouring your love into it. A body need to adjust and set down some new, deep roots, you know? Slow down.... soak up the good from the new place. Introduce your body to its new home.

And eat your spinach.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:03 AM

Hemo iron foods (red meat, seafood, poultry) are rich in iron and contain iron in a form that is easily absorbed by the body.

Red meat also has a special effect on iron absorption. Red meat, when eaten together with the vegetables, can boost the absorption of non-hemo iron by up to 400%.

Vitamin C has a similar positive effect on the absorption of iron

Tea contains tannin that could inhibit the absorption of iron. Avoid Tea

Foods Rich in Iron(in mg - 18 = daily requirement):

Blackstrap Molasses, one tablespoon 3.0
Dates or Prunes, ½ cup 2.4
Beef, Pork, Lamb, three ounces 2.3 to 3.0
Liver three ounces 8.0 to 25.0
Clams, Oysters ¾ cup 3.0
Dark meat Turkey ¾ cup 2.6
Pizza, cheese or pepperoni, ½ of 10 inch pie 4.5 to 5.5

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:15 AM

Giok just mentioned the problem I encounter with iron supplements--if I take them at all I have to take them every other day, or cut the pill and take half a day or they plug me up. After a few doses it tends to turn your stool very dark, so you can presume that you're eliminating most of it anyway. Take a small dose, it's more than you're getting now, and boost your iron. I think the suggestion about the new climate is also viable--not necessarily because of what you're eating there, but perhaps what you're NOT eating there. If you been working as hard as one usually has to work when moving a household, then take a few quiet and relaxing moments (remember that calm room you were going to set up, your comfortable space in this new place?) and eat more regular meals, take a little iron supplement, and give yourself a break.

Good luck!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:17 AM

Broccoli helps the body absorb iron. How about a broccoli and prune sautee?

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:50 AM

Oooh, a broccoli, liver and spinach fry up!

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Charmion
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:52 AM

Do you want to put the poor guy off decent food for life?

I can also recommend spinach, especially raw. Spinach salad -- mmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 12:52 PM

The GawdAwful Anemia Blues

"I got up this mornin', an' then I went back to bed...
Yeah, I got up this mornin', an' then I went back to bed...
Got me a nice, soft pillow, an' tucked it 'neath mah poor weary head"

"I'd write more verses, but I'm just too weak to rhythme..."

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: PoohBear
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 01:06 PM

MMMMM. . . raw spinach - only way to eat the stuff (can't stand the slimy cooked stuff )
Try fresh spinach (thoroughly washed) with slivers of cauliflower and/or broccoli, pecans (raw or toasted), avacado slices and some homemade vinagrette dressing (vinegar, oils, sage, thyme, oregano, hot mustard, fresh ground pepper, salt). . . Rich in all sorts of good stuff, and tasty too!
PB

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 06:19 PM

Spinach, broccoli, prunes, dates, molasses.... gentle sufferin Jaysus. Anemia would be the least of his problems!!! Bear steak Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: bobad
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 07:40 PM

I've heard that the spinach you buy today contains 250 times less iron than that which was grown in the 50's ie. before the extensive use of water soluble chemical fertilizers which do not replace the micronutrients to the soil.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: GUEST,somewun whut is allus commentin' at you in f
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:04 PM

cook with ironware
buy some iron pills
take the iron pills with vitamin c which will aid in uptake.

you didn't say HOW low you are in iron or for how long. you should ask your doctor what could be responsible for this as it may be an indicator of somethin' else (then again it may be diet and not much else).

But assumin' yore a male, you shouldn't be losin' blood on a reg'lar basis, now, ain't that right podner?

in my case it was a long history of blood donatin'.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:18 PM

Well, after thinkin' on it and cogitatin' on it, I have found the cause to Bobert's anemia. It was so simple, so straightforward, it was staring me in the face all along! I could kick myself for not realizing sooner that his problem is caused by...vampires! Yup, them blood-suckin' critters from Rurisvania or wherever they're from. Somebody has imported 'em into Luray, Virginia and they've busted loose and found ol' Bobert to feast on. He's new in town, and them vampires probably heard one of the locals call him "new blood."

Now, vampires ain't as bad as they've been called. Yeah, they'll put the bite on their friends, stick 'em for the drinks, and just make bloody nuisances of themselves, but they'll never ask ya for a stake dinner. And they're always gone before sun-up. But still, Bobert, you'd best take care and wear garlic and 'specially make the P-vine wear garlic. Them vampires are jist waiting to sing "fangs for the mammaries."





(Seriously, dude -- got to the doctor.)

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:29 PM

Rapaire, please, get back on the meds.

(Fangs for the Mammeries!?!) Great!

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:30 PM

My mother was diagnosed as being anemic, even though her diet contained plenty of iron. Her doctor said it was because her body wasn't producing enough of the digestive substances needed for her body to absorb and utilize it. He had her take the hydrochloric acid and that corrected the problem. That's how I found out about using the hc in that way. Might be worth checking into if nothing else turns up and/or fixes the problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: open mike
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:47 PM

Raisins!! (I heard it thru the grape vine)
and Kale and other dark greens
if you cook in cast iron pots
esp if you use acidic foods like tomatoe sauce
it releases the iron

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 10:51 AM

If the hydrochloric acid doesn't cure the aneamia, at least we could put you on charge to jump start the truck on cold mornings. Or you could move north and live in Battery Park.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:10 PM

Men and pre-menopausal women have totally different reasons for ever beng anemic. I was diagnosed as anemic various times in my life but never after menopause. Without blood loss one should never, I was told, suffer from anemia, which is why men rarely become anemic.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:25 PM

Bobert - You need to investigate. Why are you anemic? In the meantime, bake with non-suphured, black strap molasses (just a little), use cast iron and eat your spinach.

Spinach doesn't have to be slimy. Cook it fresh with very little water (the water clinging to the leaves is enough) until it just barely wilts. Add garlic and butter. Yum!

Spinach salad with oranges and almonds is also very good.

Take small doses of iron supplement at a time.

Hey, this is a small thing. It can be corrected.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 02:06 PM

Spinach contains oxalic acid, so it shouldn't be the main leafy green used for dietary iron. Too much oxalic acid isn't good for people.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 03:57 PM

Carol - I think I mentioned this before but alot of oxalic acid can be removed prior to ingestion. My ex-husband could not tolerate oxalic acid but loved rhubarb. I pour boiling water over the chopped rhubarb and let it sit a few minutes. I then pour off the water and alot of oxalic acid. What remains is rhubarb without the bite. It actually works well.

I know someone who actually makes wine from rhubarb. I have told him I think its a bad idea but I think its too late. He drinks alot of this wine and I think it actually affects his mind in ways that other wines do not. I can't imagine what it is doing to his body.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 04:13 PM

Thanks dianavan. That's good to know.

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 04:14 PM

I don't want to be an alarmist, but IF you notice spontaneous brusing on your back or chest, get thee to ER ASAP!

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Kaleea
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 01:32 AM

Sounds like "the change" to me--have you tried estrogen?
But seriously folks, I sometimes have to take Kelp tabs because I am allergic to almost all veggies & all melons & many fruits. You can also eat dark chocolate--I'm not allergic to that!

   From my mother's side of the family I inherited many of the family traits, including chronic anemia. Since time immemorial, the women in the family used cast iron till all that aluminum came out. After my mother inherited her mother's castiron skillet--that Granny bought second hand & the handle was broke at the time almost 90 years ago--she didn't have the anemia anymore.

   When I was rear-ended in my vehicle 4 1/2 years ago, what was thought to be concussion related hard-to-think-straight-itis has continued. I have alot of trouble with anything to do with numbers. I can no longer memorize lyrics & tunes easily, it takes months, & sometimes the lyrics never seem to stay. Turns out that when your head whips forward-whiplash, more damage is sometimes done when the head whips back, like slight swelling or tearing of the brainstem or surrounding tissues. This has caused some of these problems for me. I almost need a retriever whenever I attempt to have a conversation, because I frequently cannot 'retrieve' a word from my brain & have to substitute some other word. I tire way too easily, & have headaches.    Any chance that you flopped your head around whilst tossing boxes & furniture? You might check with a good Osteopath, They're one-stop-shopping-convenient, as they know all about the chiropractic type manipulation AND can give you groovey drugs!

Subject: RE: BS: Anemia Got Holt of the Hillbilly....
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 08:35 AM

Well, well, well...

I ain't even gotten the nummers from the doc yet but should have them tomorrow and the nummers oughta give us a clue as to what to do... I still have more time when I'm fine than not... Mornings are fine, fir instance... I'm all clear headed and feel "bold and bulky" but as the day goes on, 'bout late afternoon, I need a good 30 minute nap...

I loves spinich so that ain't gonna be no propblem... And IO love collards... Not mustard greens, however... Raisins is good, too...

I ain't into eatin' critters livers, tho, so that ain't gonna happen...

I told my mom yesterday and she has been a health nuit all her life and she diodn't seem too concerned at all and gave me the samwe advice that lots of you all have given me...

I'm sure Doc BallBuster will uyse this as yet another way to try to get me to quit my six-pack a night habit but as long as the liver functions stay good, which they always are, I'll just tell here what I always tell her, "Firget it, lady..."

Well, gotta make a little hay whilst Iz feelin' up to it... My business partner and her family are coming down today to visit with us and our loaner herd of miniture horses...

As per usual, thanks fir sharin' yer ideas and experiences...

Bobert