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Subject: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Bobert Date: 22 Jul 05 - 10:09 PM Well, well, well... Looks like some place out west in the US hit 117 degrees today... That's purdy hot but... ... hey, its a dry hot and only feels like, oh, 'bout 80 degrees... Wrong. ...hey, accordion' to the Bush adminsitartion this global warmin' thing is just a bunch of dope smokin liberal crap... Yeah, that sounds better.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 22 Jul 05 - 10:16 PM The heat in an oven is also dry. In Juneau, Alaska, our high temperature has been more than half that. We have been topping 65 degrees lately. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Bobert Date: 22 Jul 05 - 10:21 PM That explains why you all collectively vote fir folks who tell you that global warmin' in justa commie plot an' there ain't no such thing.... Maybe a few trips to places with 117 degrees might break up that one little misconception about the scientists who have been warnin' us of this problem.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Bill D Date: 22 Jul 05 - 11:14 PM I once delivered newspapers in 111ºF. ...it was not pleasant. (Kansas, 1953, I think) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: katlaughing Date: 22 Jul 05 - 11:22 PM Our in-the-shade backyard thermometer has hit 110 the past two days. Even with two air conditioners and two swamp coolers, it was 87 in our living room. My daughter, grandson, and I have been spending most of the afternoons and early evenings in our bedroom where the space is controlled and the ac works well. Rog has good ac at work, thank goodness. I know we live in a so-called desert, the Banana Belt of Colorado, but this is way above average! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Bill D Date: 22 Jul 05 - 11:33 PM well, I guess we on the right coast are the 'lucky' ones the last couple of weeks with 'only' 90s... a taste of 'global warming', hmmm? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Jul 05 - 04:27 PM We've hovered right around 100 this week. Makes the yard work a bit of a challenge. A couple of times a day I turn on a sprinkler somewhere in the yard for a few minutes so the dog can cool down (she loves the sprinker!) I'm building a fence this weekend. Back to the oven. . .and maybe I'll join the dog in the sprinkler! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Peace Date: 23 Jul 05 - 04:32 PM Went through about three days of 117 in California in 1969. My buddy who lives there says it was 117. I still think it was 114. However, it was hot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST,crazy little woman Date: 24 Jul 05 - 12:12 AM 103 here in Kansas City. The best thing to do is not to fight it. Stay inside, if you can. Put water out for the animals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Sorcha Date: 24 Jul 05 - 01:11 PM 111 here in Wyo yesterday..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: kendall Date: 24 Jul 05 - 04:50 PM Bush won't wake up until Bangladesh is under water. I know many people who don't seem to understand the difference between climate and weather. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Le Scaramouche Date: 24 Jul 05 - 04:59 PM Whats 117 in a proper measurement, like celsius? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Bev and Jerry Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:19 PM 47 degrees celsuis! And, by the way, at least one of the places that hit 117 degrees was California Valley which is in our county but might as well be on a different planet. That same day our high temperature was about 70 degrees. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Le Scaramouche Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:25 PM Oh, it's been 40+ on and off here (northern Israel) for the past few weeks. SO QUIT WHINGING!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: MarkS Date: 24 Jul 05 - 06:18 PM Hottest I ever knew it was - 122 F in Vietnam in 1969. Suspect it was hotter from time to time but that was the only time somebody had a thermometer! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 24 Jul 05 - 06:23 PM I've been wondering lately - and it no longer sounds as far fetched as it might have once - what if one fine day soon somewhere in the US the temperature should hit 140F? Temperatures close to that occur in some parts of the world with some regularity. It's a given that many people would die. Presumably it would mean that a broad band of geography would reach superrecord temperatures that same day. That would probably mean that hundreds, maybe thousands, of people would die from heat-related causes in a swath across the country. Any time that temperatures reach record levels, there is greater use of air conditioners. The greater the use of electricity the more vulnerable an area is to power failure. In some parts of the US already, sustaining life is barely possible without artifical means. Does that mean that only the affluent - those people with swimming pools or homes on the beach or on rivers would survive handily? Does that mean that the best way for the poor to ride out a season is to burrow into the ground? There may be new uses for fall out shelters... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: JennyO Date: 25 Jul 05 - 09:05 AM Does that mean that the best way for the poor to ride out a season is to burrow into the ground? That's already been done in one of Australia's outback towns - Coober Pedy - here and here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Sorcha Date: 25 Jul 05 - 09:19 AM Neat! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Alaska Mike Date: 25 Jul 05 - 09:33 AM I grew up in the southwest desert of Arizona. As a kid we regularly had summer temperatures over 120 F. Once, I remember the high for the day in my home town was 132 F. But now I live in Alaska where the temp today will be in the 70s and all you need to do to cool down the house is open a few windows or turn on the fan. I'm flying out to Dutch Harbor in the Aleutian Islands today where the temp will be in the low 50s and so I will have to bring a jacket and rain coat. Summers in Alaska are great. Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST,Burnt Date: 25 Jul 05 - 09:50 AM In recent times the Australian government built a nice, modern refugee detention centre in Woomera , in the Australian desert. Asylum seekers were housed in tin demountable sheds, like those used by council workers. The weather there was often as hot as 48 degrees (118.4 degree Fahrenheit), and, as the locals said, 56 degrees on the ground (132.8 degree Fahrenheit). Stepping down from the small airplane was like stepping into a blasting, dry furnace, and it was always like that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST Date: 25 Jul 05 - 10:01 AM They showed Florida on the tv last night, they had these neat pipe contraptions in the street that spurt out mists of cold water. No water shortage then? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Torctgyd Date: 25 Jul 05 - 10:29 AM Is Diana Ross in this group? Must get quite crowded on the stage! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 25 Jul 05 - 02:06 PM Thanks for those links, Jenny O. I had no idea. I'd love to visit there. Maybe during the "transition" everyone will go to a summertime work "day" from 9:00 PM to 5:00 AM. I have some hillside property in Oregon that would be perfect for an underground or hybrid house. hmmmmm In the US plains they built and used sod houses for quite a long time. What goes around comes around, I guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Kaleea Date: 25 Jul 05 - 07:23 PM Only 117? A mere bagatelle! I can recall one fun balmy time when I lived in Phoenix, lounging away on a lovely 131 degree day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: LilyFestre Date: 25 Jul 05 - 07:36 PM In North Central Pennsylvania and the Finger Lake region of New York, the weatherman is calling for temps up to 106 tomorrow. I am praying for snow. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 25 Jul 05 - 07:47 PM Michelle, if your prayer is answered, PLEASE let us know. You'd make a lot of believers on the pot. *G* |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 25 Jul 05 - 07:52 PM Whoops! Insert 's". |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: pdq Date: 25 Jul 05 - 08:21 PM If people recall 130+ F temperatures in their past, it is an artifact of aging. 134 F, the hottest temperature in US history, was at Greenland Ranch in Death Valley on July 10, 1913. That location is now called Furnace Creek. Although 129 F has been seen there many times since, never has the magic 130 F level been passed again. I spent a summer in Phoenix and have driven through Death Valley in August, but the 120 F I saw on a bank building in Tempe was the hottest I have expreienced in person. Phoenix that day had a official 121 F. Blythe or Needles, both along the Colorado river, have high humidity and feel much worse at 117 F than any other place I have been. World record right now is 136 F at Azizia, Lybia. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 25 Jul 05 - 08:29 PM pdq, surely you are referring to the 'official' temperature readings? There are many places - including inside sun porches and parked cars- that arevery much in excess of the official temperature for the day, temperature that is carefully controlled as to air and environment. Sun beating on asphalt in the middle of the afternoon reaches a much higher temperature than it does in the weatherman's vessel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: JohnInKansas Date: 26 Jul 05 - 07:33 AM ca. 1968 - 1970 I was at the US Army Ordnance Proving Grounds just outside Yuma Arizona. The complaint there was that the increase in irrigation in the area had made it impossible to get enough days hot enough to complete the "Desert Environmental Testing" that was the purpose of the station. On lots of days in the summer, we'd have to wait until 15:00 in the afternoon to get the 110F needed (still air shade temp), although ground temperatures out in the sun frequently went to 130F or a little more, and vehicle surfaces could hit 165F - 180F. I did record a couple of 142F still air shade temperatures in the bottom of some gullies - as a research task to see if we could find "local hot spots" to complete some tests. Interior temperatures in personal vehicles were frequently in the 170F vicinity when you left the office to go back to base. These conditions were surprisingly "tolerable" IF you had sufficient time to acclimate to them, IF you could appropriately adjust your "workload," and IF you could maintain consistent day-to-day exposure to the heat. The extent of the acclimation can be judged by the instance of the fellow who ran off the road, got stuck in the sand, left his car, and died of exposure when the nighttime temperature dropped all the way down to 68F. Official post rules required military personnel leaving the post especially during the summer to have a blanket in the vehicle for each occupant; but I don't recall ever being searched on the way out. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Torctgyd Date: 26 Jul 05 - 11:35 AM Temperatures given are in the shade (basically the air temperature). Measuring the temperature in direct sunlight or the temperature of the ground, road, metal surface, in cars etc give a much higher reading. So plonking your thermometer in the sun could well give temperatures that high but they wouldn't count as the actual recorded temperature |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: open mike Date: 27 Jul 05 - 12:03 AM i remember being in a town in arizona near the california border that had the town water tank up on the hill--in the sun. And no matter how long you ran the water in the tap, it did not cool down..it had hot and hotter running water... can't remember the name..i think there is a lake there. oh yeah..Havasu. as in havasupi..the tribe that makes its home at the bottom of the grand canyon. sometimes the rain falling over the canyon evaporates before it hits the ground down there...verdi...is'nt that what it is called when rain evaporates?or verdigris?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: DougR Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:06 AM I have it on pretty good authority that global warming is causing all the terribly hot weather recently, and that Ebbie, in cool, cool, Alaska is responsible for it. Can't prove it though. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 27 Jul 05 - 02:05 AM You guessed it, Doug. See, I don't tell just anybody, but I'm working on the north now. See if I don't succeed. Did a GREAT job down south. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Metchosin Date: 27 Jul 05 - 02:53 AM I remember reading somewhere that one of the reasons that official temperatures are usually higher in a number of centres, than those of the past, is that quite often, unlike in earlier times, official temperatures are recorded at airports and other areas where there are now great expanses of blacktop or ashphalt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Pauline L Date: 27 Jul 05 - 12:07 PM JohninKansas, I don't understand something. Why did the man die after the temp went down to 68F? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: PoppaGator Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:57 PM In New Orleans, the temperature almost never exceeds 98 or 99 because of the high (90%+) humidity. We've had mid-to-high nineties over the past week or so, which combioned with the humidity makes for "heat index" readings up around 110 or more. We've had central air conditioning in our house for just a few years, and in the summertime (i.e., April through October) keep the thermostat set at 80, which probably seems pretty high to most of you. It's actually quite comfortable, since the outside temperature hereabouts stays well above 80 all day and night, causing the A/C unit to cycle on frequently enough to keep the indoor air nicely dehumidified. I really prefer NOT to keep the inside of the house so chilly that venturing outdoors becomes a shock to the system. I'll never understand the folks who keep their homes and businesses at about 60F in the summer, and then in the winter heat their places up to the mid-to-high-70s. Crazy! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Peace Date: 27 Jul 05 - 02:18 PM I like it at about 58 degrees all year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: JohnInKansas Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:43 PM Pauline L - When you're body acclimates to losing a lot of heat rapidly, it seems as though your ability to conserve heat is pretty much lost. Normal metabolic processes generate a bit of heat, so your body temperature usually is a little above the ambient air temperature. In normal temperatures this isn't too much of a problem, but basal body temperatures in excess of 105F or so can cause damage to internal organs, including the brain. To keep your body temperature at "safe" levels in high temperature, you perspire so that evaporation can add some cooling. You also tend to breathe differently so that internal evaporation in the lungs does some cooling. Your peripheral vascular system "opens up" so that more of your blood is at or near the skin surface to conduct heat out of the body. To survive in very high ambient temperatures, you must have the ability to keep your internal body temperature below the temperature of the surrounding air. If the body is all tuned up to lose as much heat as possible, the processes that are turned on cannot be turned off rapidly. As ambient air temperature drops your body will cool down with it, and if you're very completely accomodated to losing heat you may continue to pump it out even as your basal body temperature passes through the "standard 98.6F" and drops to something less. Most people acclimated to high ambient temperature will cease perspiring when body temperature gets down to normal, but it may take substantial time for that peripheral vascular system to get rid of the excess blood in the surface system so that the peripheral flow can be reduced, and loss of body heat will continue until it does. Until the vascular system is purged, you can't even shiver to get that extra bit of heat from the twitching about. Most people will lose coherence at basal body temperatures below 90 - 95F or so, and will almost certainly lose consciousness by the time they're cooled to around 80F or so. The shut-down of circulation that occurs in shock, whether hypothermic shock or from trauma, prevents the body from any reaction that would further reduce heat loss. If there's sufficient air circulation, our victim would reach ambient temperature at 68F in this case. If there is no air circulation, as is typical with falling temperatures in the desert or in the arctic, blackbody radiation can cause an "object" exposed to a clear sky to have a terminal temperature about 10 to 15F below the ambient air temperature, so once our victim collapsed in the desert his basal body temperature could easily have dropped, within an hour or two, to something like 55 - 58F, and he's dead due to shock and circulatory collapse. Somewhat lower basal body temperatures are often survivable in normally acclimated persons when the cooling is fairly rapid, as when someone falls out of a boat into cold water; but the more slowly the hypothermal condition sets in, the more body processes degenerate, are disabled by shock, or are destroyed. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 27 Jul 05 - 05:26 PM Has anyone recently read Whitley Streiber's 'The Coming Global SuperStorm'? Man made, man exacerbated or not, able to be ameliorated or not, I think it's high time that we pay attention. BOMBAY, India - India's financial capital was paralyzed Wednesday by the strongest rains ever recorded in Indian history, with torrential downpours — 37 inches in one day — marooning drivers, forcing students to sleep at school and snapping communication lines. At least 200 people died. "At its worst, the rainfall descended in what looked like a solid wall of water, overwhelming Bombay, a crowded city long accustomed to monsoon rains. "Never before in Bombay's history has this happened," said Police Commissioner A.N. Roy. "Our first priority is to rescue people stranded in floods." Heads Up! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: LilyFestre Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:17 PM You and me both Brucie. It was in the low 70's here today but the humidity was at 92% so it was miserable anyway. Give me a crisp fall day in the 50's and I am most happy! :) Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Ebbie Date: 29 Jul 05 - 01:24 PM IMO, a companion piece to t'other thread.- |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST,Arnie Date: 30 Jul 05 - 12:59 PM You lucky, lucky people!! We were promised a hot summer in the UK and this week all we've had is cloud and rain! Did see a bit of warm sunshine over a week ago (temps in the upper 70's Fahrenheit) but that's now long gone and forgotten. Off to Spain next week to see if the weather is any better in Barcelona... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Mudlark Date: 30 Jul 05 - 09:26 PM The worst thing about the 110 degree heat wave we've been having is that the afternoon breeze from the coast has died. Usually, no matter how bad the days are, by nightfall a brisk breeze is blowing, that drops temps dramatically, cooling down people and dwellings. When that dies, and it's still 90 at 9PM, 85 at midnight, even the outdoor air feels as stale as a room that has been shut up too long. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: freda underhill Date: 31 Jul 05 - 09:02 AM On Thursday, temperatures of 40 degrees were recorded, the highest in Poland in 83 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Nigel Parsons Date: 31 Jul 05 - 10:43 AM 117 degrees, just a smidgeon South of East South East.(112½degrees) Could those who insist on using new-fangled scales (Scaramouche) please agree on some form of consistency. 117F would translate to about 53 degrees in the scale proposed by Anders Celsius. Not the 47 degrees quoted by Bev & Jerry above. Nigel (Pedant!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: JohnInKansas Date: 01 Aug 05 - 03:53 AM (117F - 32F) = 85 "Fahrenheit degrees above freezing point" 1.8 Fahrenheit degrees per Centigrade degree 85/1.8 = 47.22 "Centigrade degrees above freezing point" 117 F = 47.22 C If memory serves me, that's about 576 R (Rankine) or approximately 285 K (Kelvin), but pedants may want to check the current position of absolute zero. Recent ISO quibbles have mudied the waters on whether "Celsius" may be used only for "normal temperatures" or may be used for absolute temperatures, but the question seems seldom to arise among weather forcasters. Celsius is generally taken to mean the same as the older Centigrade, and expresses "degrees above/below the freezing point of water. Absolute temperatures, using nominally the same "size of a degree" should be called degrees Kelvin. Of course, in a few remote Soviet regions, it's been: 117 F (Fahrenheit) = 37.8 R (Rheamur) but I don't think we have many here using that scale - even in Poland. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Torctgyd Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:24 AM (117-32)*(5/9)=47.222222222222C |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Nigel Parsons Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:13 PM I was careful not to state "in the centigrade scale", as I'm aware that the formula for conversion either way would then be (F-32)/9 = C/5. I stated "the scale proposed by Anders Celsius". The scale proposed by Celsius is the inverse of the centigrade scale, as he proposed a scale with the boiling point of water at zero, and its freezing point at 100 Nigel (I did state I was being a pedant!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST,Sean Date: 06 Nov 07 - 06:24 PM the hottest temperature in rhe shade ever recorded is 93.6 degrees celsius in Iran in 1933 during the weatherphenomia called "heatburst" in extreme situations a heatburst could rise the actual airtemperature by 40 celsius or more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Goose Gander Date: 07 Nov 07 - 02:46 PM I was in Pheonix a couple years ago, the mercury hit 128 degrees fahrenheit. I will never live in Phoenix, because I refuse to live in a place where the climate could kill me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Bert Date: 07 Nov 07 - 02:52 PM Her's some more hot places |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: pdq Date: 07 Nov 07 - 03:31 PM The highest temperatures ever recorded in Phoenix were: 122°F on June 26, 1990; 121°F on July 28, 1995; 120°F on June 25, 1990; 118°F on July 16, 1925, June 24, 1929, July 11, 1958, July 4, 1989, June 27, 1990, June 28, 1990, July 27, 1995, and July 21, 2006. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST Date: 10 Nov 07 - 10:30 PM the hottest temperature in rhe shade ever recorded is 93.6 degrees celsius in Iran in 1933 during the weatherphenomia called "heatburst" in extreme situations a heatburst could rise the actual airtemperature by 40 celsius or more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Barry Finn Date: 11 Nov 07 - 02:04 PM I hitchhiked through Phoenix in 1968 with 2 other guys on our way to San Francisco. We bought a couple of sodas, the soda chest was outside in the alley, shaded. The temp read 115 in the shade. We kept our thumbs out & walked into the desert. I haven't heard from those sodas since. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST,Kevin Date: 12 Nov 07 - 07:11 AM "In Juneau, Alaska, our high temperature has been more than half that. We have been topping 65 degrees lately" It does not make sense to say 65 deg is more than half the 117deg. If anything, comparison should be made using the Kelvin scale |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Wolfgang Date: 12 Nov 07 - 07:49 AM Kevin, do you really mean I should not say that the average winter temperature in Germany has doubled in the last decade when it has increased from 0.5 Celsius to 1.0? Wolfgang (:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Midchuck Date: 12 Nov 07 - 08:02 AM I think Guest Kevin is right. An increase of some degrees either Celcius or Farenheit, is only a slight increase in heat energy level, not a doubling. You'd have to look at how much of an increase it was over absolute zero, which is something below -400 Celcius. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: Mr Red Date: 12 Nov 07 - 08:15 AM Only a slight increase in heat? As a percentage of deg Kelvin maybe. But the globe is pretty big and heat is temperature times mass and that ain't slight - PAL. AND considering the mass extinction of the Permmian is reckoned to have been caused by about 5 degrees shift until the Hydrates started to unlock and release methane and push the result up to 10 degrees and kill off 90% of all creatures, all of which were bigger than rabbits........... One meteor/ commet and a few volcanos that follow - should do it. I think 0.5 deg in 10 is not slight either - as a %. It is all relative. And you won't have any relatives after that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 117 Degrees!!!?!?!?!.... From: GUEST,Kevinagain Date: 12 Nov 07 - 06:19 PM Midchuck Peter - thanks (but absolute zero is about -273 deg Celsius - there is nothing below that! :-) ) ...but -40F is the same as -40C : was that what was in your mind?? |
