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Subject: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 06:41 PM

Predictions?

I'd like to see the Steelers go far and the Colts loose.

And if you don't like the sport create a new thread called "blow it out your ass", And leave us to discuss what we like!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 07:53 PM

Colts going to win the AFC, Rap...

Sorry...

NFC is up in the air...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 07:57 PM

Hehehehe... go Pats!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 08:01 PM

BTW.... did you like that cover of Brady on SI in contrast with his ONCE IN A LIFETIME spat with the refs when he got called for "blocking back" on Sunday. Fucking hilarious!!!! The one time that he wasn't a sportsman! I nearly busted a gut! Timing is everything. (Oh... he did block straight up... bad call.)


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 08:50 PM

Gnu
What was that issue date?
The last one I got was dec 5 with Texas football on the cover.

Have they ever last issues on you?

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 09:21 PM

"Blow it out your ass": Just wondering if--just wondering mind you--if it would be acceptable to do a conversion by having the ball balanced on . . . naw, guess not. But if the game was won by a single point, AND the conversion was accomplished in that manner, wow, huh? Wouldn't that be a finish?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 10:13 AM

Raptor... I dunno. I saw it on TV on Pats Gameday last Sunday.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Pseudolus
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 10:37 AM

The Colts are the real deal. The only question is whether it will be an undefeated season or simply a Super Bowl Championship. The NFC is playing for second place.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 10:41 AM

I e-mailed SI about it so I guess I find out later!

I hopeing my team, 49ers come in last again to draft Reggie Bush. He played with Alex Smith and by the time Smith Matures we'll be great again!

I wouldn't hate the colts so much but you know Payton had some say in Eli's snubbing of the Chargers last year and I hate that kind of primadonna bullshit!

Who's your team?

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Pseudolus
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 11:55 AM

My team? Hmmm, should I say this out loud? OK, I'll admit it, I'm an Eagles fan. Have been since I was little. I've seen some really bad teams come and go around here but this year's is the most dissappointing. We went from a return trip to the Super Bowl to being an also ran in a bad conference! Tough Year. Hopefully we'll be back kickin next year.

Peyton Manning is the quarterback on my fantasy team so I like him a lot but I especially like his commercials where he becomes the fan.


Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:09 PM

Yay! for the Massillon Bulldogs!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:42 PM

I must say that P. Manning is a wonder to watch in hurryup... amazing stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: maire-aine
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 07:30 PM

Go Steelers! They're the team I identify with (my Dad came from east of Pittsburgh), since the Detroit Lions had ANOTHER miserable season.

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 07:49 PM

Well, I've been a 'Skins fan since I was 'bout 13 and playin' Falls Church Boys Club ball and out team was up in D.C. playin' and Sam Baker, the Redskins place kicker and Eddie LaBaron, the Redskins quarterback showed up at the game and signed everyone's pads....

Oh, that was such a great day... I was a wide reciever back then an' caught a touchdown pass with Sam Baker and Eddie LaBaron watchin'.... Also, while playin' linebacker in the same game looked down and there in the middle of the field was a silver dollar!!! I still have the silver dollar but the pads, ahhhhh, have gone off to that big pile of football pads in the sky.....

Been a 'Skins fan ever since... Even during my hiipiest of my hippie years, Sunday afternoon was 'Skins football... Antiwar rally??? I might be late to it... Start without me...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 09:08 AM

And the Brooklyn Dodgers! Yay!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 05:41 AM

I think Dallas at Washington will be the "best" game this weekend. Games with rivalries always seem to be hard to predict.

Saturday, Dec. 17

Tampa Bay at New England 1:30 p.m.
Kansas City at N.Y. Giants 5:00 p.m.
Denver at Buffalo 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 18

Arizona at Houston 1:00 p.m.
Carolina at New Orleans (Baton Rouge, LA) 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Miami 1:00 p.m.
Philadelphia at St. Louis 1:00 p.m
Pittsburgh at Minnesota 1:00 p.m.
San Diego at Indianapolis 1:00 p.m.
Seattle at Tennessee 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Jacksonville 1:00 p.m.
Cincinnati at Detroit 4:05 p.m.
Cleveland at Oakland 4:05 p.m.
Dallas at Washington 4:15 p.m.
Atlanta at Chicago 8:30 p.m.

Monday, Dec. 19

Green Bay at Baltimore 9:00 p.m.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 09:44 AM

I had tickets to Denver at Buffalo Tonight, but I have a busy sunday so I had to give them up, And Buffalo is cold on a Oct. afternoon. A Dec. Night whould be freezing!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: JedMarum
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 02:53 AM

I predict Condiwill be commissioner of the NFL someday


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 09:10 AM

Sport??? Line Dancing Puffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 09:38 AM

Back in Sept I picked the Colts for the SB.

Once I predicted the final exact score of the SB and was right.

But I was always on the wrong side when it came to the Bills.
They killed my percentage.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Severn
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 10:05 AM

I've been a 'Skins fan since the days of Sam Baker and Eddie LeBaron (Doug Flutie-sized at best).....and Gene Brito, Dickie James, Joe Scudero and that bunch. 1957. Some bleak days as a football equivalent of the woeful Senators, but they weren't worthy of a Broadway Musical.

I don't particularly like their front office management any more than I do that of the Orioles (I might like the Nationals ownership, if they had any), but I knew them before the tradition o winning set by Allen and Gibbs that these people here bemoan, and I still begrudgingly pull for them.

I, too, see nothing to quite match the Colts this year from the NFC, so hope for a Colts-Pats rematch and a Manning Brothers shootout just for entertainment value.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 10:08 AM

Somehow, the vision of the Manning Brothers dressed in black Stetsons and black dusters, six-guns and shotguns in hand, strolling down a football field, is a bit distressing.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: freightdawg
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 10:53 PM

Well, the '72 Dolphins can pop the cork on another bottle of Champagne. The Colts gave it a good ride and 13 wins in one season is incredible.

Will anyone ever go undefeated in a 16 game season?

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 10:12 AM

I'm a Pats fan and their defense is healthy once again. Look out Peyton, McGinest, Seymour, Wilfork, Colvin and company have sacks with your name on them! I'm hoping for a Patriots/Seahawks Superbowl, personally.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 10:50 AM

I agree, ranger1. The Pat's defense is getting back up to speed. Colvin was definitely back on the ball Saturday!!

However, the secondary is still not up to snuff. When a small rookie cornerback (Hobbs) is your top producer and Peyton, operating the best hurry-up offense ever seen, has weapons at nearly every eligible position, only the defense can win the game. The Chargers did just that yesterday. Masterful defensive coordiation by the coaching staff. Can the Pat's defense do the same thing? I would say yes, but, on any given day....

A prediction : Watch for Evans in the backfield when the Pats meet the Colts.... I have a hunch he will be a "secret weapon" in the first half, maybe even longer, resting Dillon, Faulk, and Pass as necessary.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Pseudolus
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 12:03 PM

The worst thing that could have happened to the rest of the NFL happened yesterday when the Colts lost. They can now put the undefeated thing behind them, relax and reload for the playoffs. the only hope that the rest of the NFL including the Patriots has is believing in the myth that Peyton can't win the big game or perhaps an injury or two. aside from that, we'll all be doing the same thing on February 5th, watching the commercials!

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 01:42 PM

I wish we could get all the good commercials. Unfortunately, the Canadian broadcaster will cut many of them and we will end up watching the same Canadian Tire commercial umpteen times.

No doubt Peyton can win. As for the Pats, 14 injuries were listed last week and they still did okay.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 10:23 AM

A lot of football is psychology, and the Chargers beating the Colts in Indianapolis has put to rest the "undefeated" myth. And Belichick is a master at using psychlogy on the field.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Pseudolus
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:37 PM

A lot has been said about the New England defense and how it has come around the last three games. I'd like to remind the Pats fans that they have played against J.P. Losman, Brooks Bollinger and Chris Simms who are not now and may never be household names as far as QB's are concerned. The Pats secondary is suspect at best and I for one don't expect to see them in the Championship game, but if they make it that far, Manning will take em apart...IMHO.


Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 07:55 PM

ranger1 is correct. I suspect Bill will throw Evans and Pass at the Indy offense.... then Dillon and Faulk in the red zone. Having cut down the time that Peyton has the ball, the most dynamic defense ever to take the field (Iron Curtain don't count; I said dynamic - I am not foolish) will not be rattled by Peyton's, albeit, amazing prowess in hurry-up, but, rather, will throw it's usual myriad of looks and give it's secondary the break needed to thwart the aerial dominence of the Colts before it can establish itself.

Or not.

Can't wait. No matter what, it's gonna be one hell of a game.... 3 points? My money is on THE V!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 09:37 AM

Go Seahawks!!!!!
In leu of my Niners!!!!!

Raptor

I have no respect for any Manning, Payton and Archey should have told Ely not to be such a suck on draft day. If ely was a Charger mabey the Colts would still have thier streak!

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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 12:00 PM

We shall see at 16:15 EST on Saturday... Colts at Seahawks... should be a good game.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:57 AM

> Q: What do you call 47 people sitting around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
> A: The Buffalo Bills.
>
> Q: What do the Buffalo Bills and Billy Graham have in common?
> A: The both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell "Jesus Christ".
Substitute any team/coach you want. I will.

Q: How do you keep a Buffalo Bill out of your yard?
A: Put up goal posts.

Q: What do you call a Buffalo Bill with a Super Bowl ring?
A: A thief.

Q: Why was Mike Mularkey upset when the Buffalo Bills play book was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

Q: What's the difference between the Buffalo Bills and a dollar bill?
A: You can still get four quarters out of a dollar.

Q: How do the Buffalo Bills count to 10?
A: 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, 0-4, 0-5, 0-6, 0-7, 0-8, 0-9, 0-10

Q: How many Buffalo Bills does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A: Nobody knows and we may never find out.

Q: What do the Buffalo Bills and possums have in common?
A: Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 10:08 AM

Hey, Rap. The Bills went to four SB's not all that long ago. When you make jokes like those, I get all choked up.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 11:03 AM

Who's your NFL team Rap?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 07:03 AM

Refresh for 'aire.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 08:48 AM

Sad news about Tony Dungy's son!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:04 AM

Yeaaaa Seahawks!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:49 AM

Quite a game, indeed. Seattle was impressive. This week, I am looking forward to the old rivalry game with Dolphins at Pats. Weather will be a big factor as Williams hit his stride this past weekend. Can't wait for the IR's.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:13 AM

I'm a little worried about Bruschi and Samuel. The Pats can't afford to have any of the defense hurt at this point. And, with a Chritmas aside, my beloved got me a Patriots page-a-day calendar. He knows me so well!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 11:05 AM

Bruschi walked out of the locker room on his own after the game. What happened to Samuel?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:54 AM

So it wasn't much of a game. Pats third string on the field. But... what about Flutie!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 05:33 PM

The best defense in the NFL will go all the way.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you...........The Chicago Bears


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 06:48 PM

I have to agree with you about the Bears having one of the top defenses, they hauled in a lot of points for me on my fantasy team.

Gnu, that was a pretty dull game except for Flutie's drop-kick extra point. It was almost as good as Vinetieri's touchdown pass last year. It's always fun to see what rabbits Belichick pulls out of his hat.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 09:03 AM

Da Bearz


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:57 AM

A new season is almost here. My picks are :

Washington at Tampa Bay.......... W
Jacksonville at New England...... NE

Sunday, Jan. 8

Carolina at N.Y. Giants.......... NY
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati......... P


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:25 AM

I'm with you on all but the 'skins/Bucs game. I think the Bucs just might pull it off.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 01:35 PM

I think there may be more who might agree R1, but, some of MY best friends are Skins fans. You might even know someone who is a Skins fan.... hehehehe.

Seriously, I just believe in Washington because they are playing with such heart and determination. I shall continue to cheer for them until it gets downs to the nitty gritty.

So many great stories of adversity and character this year. A friend of mine today suggested a Colts-Giants game might be interesting.

Anyway. I have the pizza in the oven and the beer in the fridge and none of my rowdy friends are coming over... are you ready?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Severn
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 04:49 PM

Ready here!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 05:33 PM

We have a very important family birthday party to attend tonight, so I will be missing the Pats game. Boo! Hiss! The ironic thing is, the surprise honoree will also not be overly impressed that she has to be at the party during the game.

As for the Skins/Bucs game, I will readily admit right here and now that my pick is probably wrong, judging from the score as of 10 minutes ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 05:33 PM

What kind of pizza and what brand of beer?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 08:51 PM

Washington 17, Tampa 10

Go 'Skins!!!!

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:26 PM

WOW!!! What games! Sev... are you smiling? From ear to ear? Excellent game!!!

R1... I hate watching games I have taped because I was at the relatives', but, I hoped you taped that one. All I can say is Belichick is a ****ing genius!!!! That last touchdown was the icing on the cake. That was defensive play calling at it's ultimate.

Ah, pizza brand? Gary's "Try This. I think you'll like it". Beer? Lots. (Bud... Canadian Bud.)

I wish I didn't have to go to a birthday party at the relatives' tomorrow.... I'll tape the games I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Severn
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 12:28 AM

The Skin's offense caught a break this week, but the defense was superb. Superb defense on both sides actually.

The Patriots continue to amaze with their smarts and their depth. Brown did well going back over to the defensive side of things. McGinist was a beast and after a slow start, Brady was excellent.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 11:56 AM

You have to ask yourself why people schedule birthday parties during the playoffs. It's cruel, I tell you! I missed the whole game! I did get to see highlights on the news, but it's not the same. And no, we didn't tape it. Jason taped something else, because "Someone's going to tell us and then what's the point?" Silly boy! As for the Belichick comment: that's been the consensus in our household for years.


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From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 01:19 PM

How in the hell did the Redskins beat Tampa Bay with only 100 yds in the whole game?

If I didn't know better I would have thought Diebold was involved.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Severn
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 02:11 PM

Dee-Fence! And luck...and Buc ineptitude.


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From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 06:24 AM

Gosh... what happened to the Giants?

Saturday, Jan. 14

Washington at Seattle 4:30 p.m. FOX    W
New England at Denver 8:00 p.m. CBS    NE
   
Sunday, Jan. 15

Pittsburgh at Indianapolis 1:00 p.m. CBS I   
Carolina at Chicago 4:30 p.m. FOX         C


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST,donuel be my
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 08:44 AM

my whacky picks

colts, carolina ,washington and new england


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 08:51 AM

My picks:
New England (of course!)
Seattle
Carolina
Indianapolis


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From: jeffp
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 10:48 AM

Skins, Pats, Colts, Bears


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From: PoppaGator
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 12:37 PM

I was kinda hoping for a Manning brothers matchup in the Super Bowl ~ Peyton's Colts vs Eli's Giants. Would be sort of a consolation prize for us New Orleans NFL fans whose Saints had such a terrible year.

Unfortunately, Eli and the Jints got skunked pretty badly yesterday by Carolina. (The Saints should have hung onto Cajun boy Jake Delhomme when they had him a few years ago, but that's a whole 'nother story.)

The Colts ar still alive, of course, and are very likely to go all the way.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 10:41 PM

Cya Eli you SUCK

Go Seahawks


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From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 03:11 PM

Pat's are banged up, but all injuries are probale, even though most missed some practices. Denver... half as many injured and no missed practices.

Yeah, I know. But, it's better than a straight "refresh", innit?


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From: Severn
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 09:09 PM

I'd rely on Brady in the clutch more than I'd trust Jake, so even with Denver healthier, I expect a close game despite the Pats' secondary problems. I'll take the Pats on instinct.


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From: gnu
Date: 14 Jan 06 - 06:59 AM

Sev. Should be a heck of a game in Seattle today. I wonder if.....

Redskins

Chris Samuels T Ankle P
Cornelius Griffin DT Shoulder P
Shawn Springs CB Groin P
James Thrash WR Thumb Q

Seahawks

D.D. Lewis LB R Foot Q
Joe Tafoya DE L Hamstring Q
Marcus Trufant CB Lower back Q
Sean Locklear T L Hip Q
Wayne Hunter T R Ankle Q
Alain Kashama DE L Hamstring D


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From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 09:31 AM

My fault. I should not have said, "I wonder if...". Hehehe.

Both were exiting games... sniff.


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From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 10:04 AM

Sniff....

Can't win with only one decent wide reciever.... Plus, Joe Gibbs, bless his heart, ain't gonna win the big one with either Mark Brunell at QB or a "smash-mouth" offensive strategy... What's wrong with an occasional "slant pass" on 2nd and 7?? Running on 2nd and 7 with the opposing defense with their safties in the box is about dumb...

Oh well, maybe next year???

Sniff...


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From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 10:24 AM

You too, eh? I was rather upset at the play calling by times. Joe Gibbs lost that game. An he can't pass the buck to the offensive coordinator.

I wonder how the game might have gone if that pass interference on the third play of the game had been called?

Hmmm... sounds like crying over spilt milk... sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 10:42 AM

Well, I'm crying in my Cheerios this morning. Adam misses a field goal, Troy fumbles and Brady throws two god-awful interceptions. No more Pats until next year. Allegiance now switches to the Seahawks for the rest of the playoffs.


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From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 01:03 PM

Seahawks!!?? And you call yourself a New Englander? Tsk. Tsk. I shall be cheering for the Steelers momentarily. Although, I think "otherwise" at the moment. And, same goes for dUH bearz.

In any case, I will enjoy watching Manning run the hurryup... amazing stuff. And, I will enjoy watching dUH bearz apply the leagues best defensive pressure... WITHOUT blitzing!!! Again, amazing stuff.

Are you ready for some football!!??


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From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 01:18 PM

The Steelers are!!! Wow!!


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From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 04:37 PM

On any given.............. wow!!!

Panthers and Bears now... ???


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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 04:49 PM

Predictions?
Bears will beat Panthers by 3
Seattle will win over Bears by 10
Broncos will beat Steelers by 7

and in the Super Bowl..
Broncos 27
Seahawks 21


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From: ranger1
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 05:14 PM

Gnu, my mum lives in WA and her boyfriend is a big Seahawks fan. With the Pats out of it, that's as good a reason as any to root for a team. I still think Carolina is going to win today, but I think the Superbowl is going to be Seahawks and Broncos. As for who's going to win it, I'm hoping for the 'hawks, but I think they may be pretty evenly matched.


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From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 07:13 AM

Sunday (EST)

Pittsburgh at Denver 3:00 p.m. CBS   
Carolina at Seattle 6:30 p.m. FOX

Sunday, Feb 5, 6:00 p.m.

? & ? (I am waiting for the IR's on Thursday)


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: ranger1
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 12:42 PM

AFC - Denver
NFC - Seahawks (probably wishful thinking on my part)


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Pseudolus
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 02:24 PM

It's been close to 15 years since I quit gambling on football. I had two problems, first, when I was down I couldn't stop trying to catch up, second, I was always down. If you look at my previous posts, you'll see why it was a good decision to quit gambling on football!! Undaunted, I would like to predict a Carolina - Pittsburg Superbowl. Defense wins the big games and they are the best two left, in my humbled and apparently a bit flawed opinion!

Frank


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From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 03:39 PM

Jaysus... too bad you quit.


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From: Raptor
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 04:49 PM

Seahawks will beat Broncos in XL


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From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:08 AM

Carolina Panthers at Seattle Seahawks

CAR OUT RB DeShaun Foster (Ankle)

QUESTIONABLE DE Julius Peppers (Shoulder)

PROBABLE DT Jordan Carstens (Illness)
FB Brad Hoover (Ankle)
FS Mike Minter (Wrist)
C Jeff Mitchell (Knee)
DT Kindal Moorehead (Ankle)
G Tutan Reyes (Toe)

SEA

QUESTIONABLE DT Rocky Bernard (Foot)
WR Bobby Engram (Back)
WR Darrell Jackson (Knee)

PROBABLE RB Shaun Alexander (Concussion)

   
Pittsburgh Steelers at Denver Broncos

PIT OUT OLB James Harrison (Ankle)

PROBABLE ILB James Farrior (Calf)
ILB Larry Foote (Knee)
CB Chidi Iwuoma (Shoulder)
DE Travis Kirschke (Groin)
OLB Joey Porter (Hip)
QB Ben Roethlisberger (Thumb)
CB Deshea Townsend (Knee)
DE Kimo Von Oelhoffen (Knee)

DEN PROBABLE TE Stephen Alexander (Toe)
DE Courtney Brown (Shoulder)
MLB Keith Burns (Knee)
WR Todd Devoe (Wrist)
CB Darrent Williams (Groin)
MLB Al Wilson (Thumb)


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From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 07:57 PM

This is the hardest "pic" ever.... Carolina and Pittsburgh. There... I said it, from the gut.


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From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:06 PM

Do you remember the game where the Bears were playing Green Bay and, late in the 4th quarter, a jet went through the sound barrier? The Bears thought it was the gun ending the game and they all walked off the field.

Ir still took the Packers 3 plays to score.

Art


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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 01:14 AM

Must have been their Hurry-up Offense, Art.


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From: Raptor
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 09:04 AM

Today, My friends, We will see a Snake Stop A Bus!

We will see a Panther die in Washington State!

It should be fun!

Raptor


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From: gnu
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 02:58 PM

Oh oh. I got a rumble in me guts. Something just feels wrong watching the Broncos in the pre-game cheer. I fear they may actually "take it to a higher level." But, I am still cheering for the Steelers. In any case, I expect one heck of a game.

Are you ready for some FOOTBALLLLLLLLLL?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 06:07 PM

It was just a fart. WOW. What a game!


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From: Raptor
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 10:30 PM

Now the Steelers will Meet The Seahawks. Go Hawks!

Raptor


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From: freightdawg
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 12:37 AM

Finally, a Superbowl without the Broncos or the Patriots.

If the Seahawks show up it should be a good game.

Even though I'm a NFC guy, I have to go with the Steelers on this one. If they can get a large enough lead and just had the ball to Bettis the game should be theirs.

However, the Seahawks have shown that they are no slouches either, but all their games have been at home. How well they will play in Detroit will be a big question.

I look forward to a really entertaining game. At least the refs can't throw this one to the Patriots.

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jan 06 - 12:59 PM

So... anyone know how Ben's thumb is? Still listed as probable for next Sunday.


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From: Raptor
Date: 29 Jan 06 - 11:23 PM

Mabey a stratgy to get the Seahawks to split time between watching tape on Maddox and Ben.

That I'm told is done a lot

Raptor


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From: Pseudolus
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 11:58 AM

Nobody's watchin Maddox film. Batch will get in the game before Maddox does and besides that, it would take the thumb actually falling off before Ben comes out of this game.

So, in the spirit of bold, and so far erroneous, predictions on my part, I would like to boldly state that the Steelers will win this game. I can hear the Steelers fans now, "Pleeeeease Frank, don't pick us!!! You're never right!!!!!" Well, I apologize in advance Steelers fans...I think that Big Ben and the Bus and Ward and Randel El and the big D will be too much for the Seahawks.

Frank

P.S. Any rumors that the city of Seattle has heard of my prediction and has started to plan a parade for next week are simply not true!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 12:54 PM

NFL network is showing Superbowls all week. I love it.

I get to see my Niners win 5 over and over.

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: leftydee
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 01:22 PM

I agree, Raptor. It's great seeing my Lions win.......oh, maybe not........never mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 01:39 PM

Sounds excellent, Raptor... Joe to Jerry, Joe to Jerry, Joe to Jerry. Ya gotta love it. I am gettin me that channel next year.

Frank... Seattle will indeed have a parade. But, it will be a "thank u" parade, not a victory parade. You are almost certainly correct on Batch. His rating is 30 or 40 points higher than Maddox's (I'm pretty sure about that but not positive.) However, if Ben has to come out, the choice will be made based on on a lot more than ratings. Could go either way.

Plus, old Billybob has gotten pretty cagey and sneaky in these past few years compared to his early days of straight smashmouth. I guess when you have 13 years with one team, you can throw in the odd razzle-dazzle play. Or put in an arm and then run, or vice versa.

Of course... on any given day...........


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From: Raptor
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 09:22 AM

I'm glad noone was hurt in the van accident. It had both Hasselbeck and Alexander in it as well as 4 other key Players.

And T.Owens is interviewing in Denver. That contract will have more conditons than a Van Hallen Rider. (no red Smarties)(no talking to the media).

I love this game!

Raptor


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From: Raptor
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 08:10 PM

4 more sleeps.

Raptor


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From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 01:28 PM

2 more sleeps and a nap.

SEA PROBABLE CB Andre Dyson (Quadricep)
               WR D.J. Hackett (Hamstring)

PIT QUESTIONABLE DE Travis Kirschke (Groin)
                   FB Dan Kreider (Knee)

   PROBABLE       OLB James Harrison (Ankle)
                   SS Troy Polamalu (Ankle)

Don't forget. The top 40 S-Bowl commercials tomorrow night at 21:00h AST on CBS.... here, anyway. Check you local listings.

S-Bowl pre-game stuff starts on ABC here at 07:00h Sunday morning and goes into the wee hours Monday morning with the after-parties.

GO STEELERS!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Severn
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 03:05 PM

Don't worry, Lefty, wait until Mike Martz revamps the offense for your Millen-Dollar Baby!

FORD, HO!!!!!

...Oh wait...

Never mind....

(Sigh!)


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 02:47 PM

Are you getting ready for some football?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 05:30 PM

Whats On yer menu for the game?

Slow cooked Ribs here!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 05:31 PM

This thread is offensive to Lithuanians.


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From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 05:56 PM

Why, firstly, Gary gnu's Famous Seafood Chowder, of course. A pot big enoght to invite twice as many. Lots of lobster and scallops and clams and haddock and shrimp and, and, and........ in short, I got $60 in the pot!!! Plus whatever whoever brings.

Chips and dip of course, as they are all half price this week, as usual. All sorts of associated snacks. Plus, lots of chopped veggies for those chipohobs. But, no peanuts. Not only are they hard on the alimentary canal, they.. well... you know... and, I am a single guy. And, it's football. No women invited.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 10:19 PM

Love the cyber-tailgatin' but now it's gettin' down to the brass tacks so....

Seattle 21....






























Pittsburg 28....

(But I sho nuff wouldn't mind seein' Seattle 28, Steelers 21 but...)

Bobert

p.s. Now back to the tailgatin'.... Anyone got some Grey Poupoun mustard???


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 05:56 AM

Hmmm.... too much hype you say?

ABC lineup. Times are AST :

7:00am Super Sunday Breakfast at Ford Field
9:00am Good Morning America
10:00am Super Sunday Motown Tailgate
1:00pm Super Sunday Countdown to Kickoff
3:30pm Super Bowl XL Pregame
7:00pm NFL Football
10:45pm Super Bowl XL Postgame
11:00pm Grey's Anatomy
12:00am Weekend Action News
12:30am Super Sunday Motown Post Game Party

What a waste of time watching the top forty SB commercial show last night. I'm skippin it next year. If you taped it, don't bother watching it.


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From: Raptor
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:22 AM

Gnu You WIN.

I'm coming over for food.

I'll bring ribs!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: kendall
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:44 AM

I'm not interested in football, but I'll come for the food!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:47 AM

Kendall I haven't seen you post for a while How've you been?

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:53 AM

I wish youse guys could make it over. The more the merrier. Football fans or not. Hmmm... probably be a better half-time show than the Rolling Stoned.


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From: Azizi
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 09:22 AM

Any football fans in to astrology?

Well I have been interested in astrology for some time, and it's kinda hard for me to live in Pittsburgh and not be interested in the outcome of today's game, though [blasphemy moment coming]I don't plan to watch it.

But I was surprised to find this article about the two teams that made references to astrology.

If you're interested, check it out:

Who's going to win Superbowl XL?

-snip-

Here's an excerpt from that article which was written by Ayesha Grice:

"Starting with the quarterbacks...Ben Roethlisberger is a Pisces and Matt Hasselback is a Libra. Pisces says "I Believe", and Libra says "I Balance" If Ben can keep his focus...sometimes Pisces is streaky, he can tune into his Jupiter aspect and do all the right things at the right time. Matt is an air sign his strengths are in his passing game, but from the looks of the Super Bowl Chart, the winner will the team that can move the ball on the ground.

The two coaches...Bill Cowher is a Taurus, while Mike Holmgren is a Gemini...

The two running backs...Jerome Bettis is an Aquarius, while Shaun Alexander is a Virgo. This is Jerome's last game, so you know the "bus"is going to be playing his best game. If Shaun can get past his analytical mind (Virgo) he'll have a good game too...

Super Bowl Charts: The chart for the start of the game comes up Leo rising. A fixed fire sign. The Steelers's are coming off a high having to get their the hard way. Looks like at the beginning of the game they'll be pushing hard, playing with heart...a good start. Mars in Taurus will be close to the Moon in Taurus, that favors Pittsburgh because not only is their coach a Taurus, but Pittsburgh is a Taurus city. Certainly there will be more Steelers's fans than Seahawks, it would seem that all of Pittsburgh is in a Super Bowl frenzy. If the Steelers's tune into that psychic energy it could inspire them to win and win big."

-snip-

The author of this article confesses that she is from Pittsburgh. And that's where I'm livin now and plus I'm a fire sign...so...

Well, whatever it takes.

Go! Steelers Go!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 01:09 PM

Just finished all errands and phone calls and housework. I put the chowder on simmer and put the whores devours out. Try the smoked oysters with a bit of devilled egg on them there fancy crackers, but, wait until I pour you a bit of rum to go with it. BTW, those are Canuck cold water shrimp, not that tasteless crap from Thailand. Try one without any sauce first. You'll see the difference right away.

Raptor... shall I preheat the oven for the ribs, or are they already cooked? What be your libation?

Kendall... are you bringing your own strings or can you manage on my old Seagull? Gibson's Finest with water or ginger? Try the smoked salmon and feta on melba... seriously. Oh yeah... since you are not into the football, you can tend the fireplace.

I have a spare Hran, Bones and Mandy... anyone? Bring your own whistles, though. I don't swap spit with anyone.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Alba
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 01:45 PM

refreshing


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:57 PM

yawn.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 03:16 PM

Prawn?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 03:50 PM

I made a huge pot of my special chili yesterday for the game. Three types of meat, black beans - and lots of special ingrediants. By now all the flavors made blended together in an almost orgasmic fashion. Pure heaven in a bowl !


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:08 PM

Trade ya a bowl! Sounds delicious!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:18 PM

3 kinds of meat?????

pure orgasmic fashion??????

Pure heaven in a bowl?????

!!!!!!


sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:21 PM

I thought you went for a nap, sIx.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:23 PM

I did ... until I was awakened by the smell of that chili !!

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:25 PM

Try it yourself. I found this at www.epicurious.com

PORK, BEEF, AND BLACK BEAN CHILI
"Last year my family spent the holidays on the Big Island of Hawaii," writes Jo Lucarz of Phoenix, Arizona. "One afternoon we ate lunch in Kamuela at the Parker Ranch Grill, where we had the best chili ever — and coming from a group of Arizona natives, that's saying a lot."




2 tablespoons olive oil
1 pound ground pork
1 pound ground beef
1 pound chuck steak, fat trimmed, cut into 1-inch cubes
6 garlic cloves, minced
2 cups water
2 tablespoons ground cumin
2 tablespoons chili powder
2 teaspoons dried oregano
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon cayenne pepper
3 6-ounce cans tomato paste
2 teaspoons sugar
3 cups diced fresh tomatoes
3 cups diced onions
3 cups diced red bell peppers
3 cups canned black beans, drained, rinsed (from three 15-ounce cans)
1 cup chopped fresh cilantro
2 3/4 cups (about) beef broth
Grated cheddar cheese





Heat olive oil in heavy large pot over medium-high heat. Add ground pork and ground beef and sauté until brown, about 3 minutes. Add cubed beef and garlic and sauté 5 minutes. Add 2 cups water; bring to boil. Add cumin, chili powder, oregano, salt, and cayenne pepper. Reduce heat, cover, and simmer 10 minutes. Add tomato paste and sugar and simmer 5 minutes. Add tomatoes, onions, and peppers and simmer until vegetables are tender, about 30 minutes.
Add black beans and cilantro to chili. Add beef broth 3/4 cup at a time, until thinned to desired consistency. (Can be prepared 1 day ahead. Refrigerate uncovered until cold, then cover and keep refrigerated.) Bring chili to simmer. Ladle hot chili into bowls; top with grated cheddar cheese and serve.

Makes 8 to 10 servings.
Bon Appétit
R.S.V.P.
November 2002
Parker Ranch Grill, Kamuela, HI


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:44 PM

Thanks for posting this recipe Wesley .. will certainly give it a try.

Now ... think I'll turn on and watch the game .... whose playing anyway??

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Azizi
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 10:53 PM

Pittsburgh Steelers are the Superbowl Champions!

Hey Now!!!

[The Steelers must have known how difficult if would be for me to show my face around this place if they had lost]

LOL!


Azizi,
from Pittsburgh


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 10:55 PM

In the 8th inning !!

Far Out ... way to go Steelers!!

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: kendall
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 08:59 AM

Raptor, I'm ok, just finding fewer and fewer threads that interest me.
Gnu, so you folks up that way have a shrimp fishery? Pandalus Borealis...the most delicious shrimp on the planet.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: number 6
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:25 PM

Most of the shrimp you buy (even 'fresh} that you buy here .. yes even in the maritimes ... are from the orient.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:31 PM

WHY DO YOU AMERICANS CALL GRIDIRON FOOTBALL. YOU ONLY KICK THE BALL ABOUT 10 TIMES A GAME YOU THROW IT THE REST OF THE TIME.IN SOCCER THE BALL IS KICKED ALL THE TIME AND IN OUR GAME AUSTRALIAN RULES THE BALL IS KICKED ABOUT 80% OF THE GAME .ALSO WHY DO YOU HAVE TO WEAR SO MUCH PADDING WE DONT WEAR ANY AND OUR GAME IS JUST AS VIGEROUS


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:59 PM

If you'd have worn more pads mabey you wouldn't be shouting.Taken a few shots to the head eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 06:48 PM

The reason it is not called American (Canadian) Rules Football here is because it's too long a name. We call soccer soccer because association football is too long a name.... same as you do.

The padding? Well, it has to do with safety. Without the padding, there would be more injuries.

If that's a football for you, rough ass.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 07:06 PM

Here are a few other words which you won't understand the application of: lower case, punctuation, spelling, spacing, grammar.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 07:09 PM

Anyone else want a do-over with new referees? Even no referees woulda been better. That was fuckin pathetic.

Now, I ain't gettin in to a big discussion, but there were some calls that were absolutely uncalled for. Even after video review, the wrong call was made... not enough evidence to overturn the call on the field? Me arse!!

No, I am not sayin it was fixed... but it sure was fucked. When the officiating is that bad, ya really can't say a game was won or lost.

Of course, I ain't given back the coin I collected.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 07:14 PM

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.... doubly apropos.... the very first post...

Subject: BS: NFL
From: Raptor - PM
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 06:41 PM

Predictions?

I'd like to see the Steelers go far and the Colts loose.

And if you don't like the sport create a new thread called "blow it out your ass", And leave us to discuss what we like!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: freightdawg
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 07:37 PM

Hey Gnu, how about some examples so as we could agree or disagree wid you?

The offensive pass interference call on the Seahawks was spot on. The only problem is if its only called right once in a season it looks bad. I for one am sick of receivers pushing off on defensive backs and then making a catch, or worse, getting a flag for defensive pass interference.

The call on the mythical touchdown was pathetic. There is no way the ball broke the plane of the goal line. That is the most agravating rule in the book - no other line is treated that way in the game, the end zone should be treated like the sidelines - you aint in until you get a body part in.

On two other plays that went against the Seahawks the Steelers were clearly offsides - one the Seahawks were penalized for holding (which there was) and on the second one the Seahawks QB was sacked. Either or both times the Steelers defensive end crossed the line before the center snapped the ball.

This was the worst season for officiating in the playoffs that I have seen, culminating in the worst Super Bowl ever officiated. I thought the Broncos (twice) and the Patriots (twice) were clearly favored by the refs, but this game was ridiculous. Was it enough to effect the outcome of the game? Who can say, many of the calls were early. But the overall taste in my mouth was pretty rotten - and too bad too. Jerome Bettis was a great story line, and the Seahawks gave it all they had. I just wish I could be sure that the Steelers really deserved to win the game.

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 07:51 PM

Dawg... I said, "Now, I ain't gettin in to a big discussion,..." and I ain't. However, I would like to comment on the mythical touchdown requiring a "body part". The rules clearly state that the ball has to "break the plane". Nothing to do with the body.

I hope that was clear enough, on accounta, I ain't gettin in to a big dicussion. Hehehe... ya gotta read between the lines. Sorry, couldn't resist.

You said, "This was the worst season for officiating in the playoffs that I have seen, culminating in the worst Super Bowl ever officiated." You said it right, Dawg.

Unfortunately, the only do-over is next year. Sucks eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: freightdawg
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 10:26 PM

I agree that is what the rule says about the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. What I disagree with is that the rule is a good one. You are in-bounds until a body part is on the line or touches the ground beyond the line. You have to have two feet (or a foot and another body part) on the ground to have a legal reception in any part of the field (you cannot just catch the ball within the "plane" of the playing field). If a punt bounces in the field of play, crosses the plane of the goal line and is then batted back into the field of play by a player who has broken the plane of the goal line but has not yet touched the ground in the end zone the ball is still considered to be alive and can be downed in the field of play. The ball cannot just "break the plane" of the uprights, it has to go all the way through the uprights for a field goal or point after touchdown to count.

So what nimrod decided that "breaking the plane of the goal line" was sufficient to score a touchdown? All I am saying is that the rule (amongst many others, by the way) stinks. It is an artificial intrusion into the logic of the game that is clearly designed to favor the offense. It should be immediately banned, along with that insane "tuck" rule that robbed the Raiders of a legitimate win over the Patriots in the AFC Championship game two years ago. (I'm still hacked at that atrocious call, and I am far from being a Raiders fan.)

Here's a suggestion: let's make every official's call subject to the legitimate public scrutiny that every other person associated with the NFL gets. If they screw up and get reprimanded, let's hear about it on ESPN and every newspaper. No more "private" reprimands or discipline. Let's get it out in the open, and fire the skunks who shouldn't carry a whistle.

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: JJ
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 08:05 AM

Yesterday in Seattle Mike Holmgren bitched and moaned about the officiating.

Well, Mike, the refs didn't allow Ben to complete a 37-yard pass on 3d and 28. The refs didn't let Willie Parker run 75 yards from scrimmage. And the refs didn't leave Hines wide open for a TD pass on the gadget, a play the Steelers had also used against Cleveland, which you might have known, Mike, had you bothered to watch the films.

And we won't even begin to talk about your clock management at the end of both halves.

Maybe if hadn't been so concerned about the officiating going into the locker room at the half that you didn't answer the sideline reporter's question but chose instead to bitch about what your guys in the booth had told you about the Steeler TD, maybe if you'd made some adjustments at halftime, Mike, like the Steelers did, you might have been able to win this game.

But you lost your focus, and your team allowed the Steelers two huge plays, and you lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 08:22 AM

There always gonna be bad call but they go back and forth.
I think it was a great, close, hard fought game.
I was not Dissapointed.

JJ I think its hard to get to the superbowl and not be a bit fired up at half time and when she asked the question the only thing on Holmgrins mind was the time wasted.

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 08:46 AM

Oh yeah? Well I still say Roy Rogers could outdraw Tom Mix any day.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 05:01 PM

Still ain,t football


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 10:50 AM

To those I have offended here and in other sites by my praise of Yankee football: Hey, I was just kidding. All sports require skill, physical fitness, intelligence, etc, etc... otherwise they wouldn't be sports. Lighten up, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:36 AM

What was that Gnu did you lose a bet?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 12:13 PM

No. I pissed off some of our Brit and Aussie friends with my teasing. Apparently, they take their footy as seriously as we do ours... perhaps moreso.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 04:45 PM

Aussie rules is a religion down here and a far better game


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 06:23 PM

I've watched Aussie Rules and enjoyed it. That's all I have to say.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 07:46 PM

Apples and oranges, Notice the thread title.

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:34 PM

To gnu you must be a fair man .It is hard for us to understand your game as much as it is for you to understand our game.The main thing is your game stops and start to much where our game flows a lot more


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 06:02 AM

Oh... a fair discussion. Cool. I enjoy footy. I understand footy (Aussie Rules Football - ARs). Only took watching about twenty minutes to learn the basic rules and watching about two games to most of the rules. (Even kinda pissed me off when they changed the uniforms.) As for Yankee Football (YF), learning the rules would prbably take two or three times as long. And, I may as well say it now... nobody will ever fully learn the rules of rugby, but that is a discussion unto itself. I love rugby.

ARs certainly does flow. YF certainly does stop and start...unless, you understand the game "beyond" the rules. That takes watching at least ten to tewnty games and studying the organiztional structure of "off-field" team. During play, there are 11 players on the field and 29 players on the sideline. The off-field team consists of coaches, coordinators, trainers... 30 some of them. They are constantly observing and analysing the play and the performance of all players, constantly trying to determine how the opposing team will react to different formations, etc, etc, etc.

This is why YF can be so much fun to watch. If you understand the game on and off the field, it never really stops. YF is as much a game of chess as it is of physical prowess. I find that YF allows the spectator to be much more "into" the game because of this. And, fans can actually disrupt play by cheering loud enough to make audible communication by the offense prior to the snap... ah, sorry... fans can make a difference simply by being noisy when the opponents have possession of the ball.

The start and stop nature of the game also adds one more element of uniqueness to YF. In ARs and the like, the players have to balance between pacing themselves and being left behind. They also get a bit of resting time when not directly involved in the action. In YF, every player is at full speed on every "play", and sixty minutes of play time takes about two and a half hours. Instead of continuous fast-paced action, YF is a series of lightning-fast actions. It's like the marathon versus the 100m... over and over.

I enjoy footy. I enjoy rugby. I enjoy football. I enjoy Yankee football. If I had to choose between them, I would say that I would watch the game of most importance and tape as many others as I and my buddies could.

Go St. Kilda.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 05:26 PM

Good reply AR goes for approx 120 minutes some of the players are said to run up to 12 miles per game.We have 4 interchange on the bench , our coaches sit in the stand and make there moves and changes from there.We average about 40.000 people a game , big games might get 70.000 .Grand final would bring 95.000 to 100.000.You can only dispose of the ball 2 ways kicking or handballing with a clench fist, you get free kicks for various rules.Our scoring is 6 points for agoal 1 point for a minor, so it could be 15 goals 10=100 to12/8 =80 ,hope this helps


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 05:29 PM

I should also have said go the blues (carlton)we will rise again


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 06:28 AM

Just a thought about rugby. Will there be referees in heaven? Maybe just the one?

(FYI : Besides the old saying, "It takes leather balls to play rugby.", there is another I assume not many Yanks know... "Rugby, the game they play in heaven.")

Engage!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 05:03 PM

rugby is played by everyone sniffing each others bums


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 07:01 PM

Gee... thanks for your in depth analyses and review. Now, fuck off asshole. This thread is for men, not children.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: LadyJean
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 12:37 AM

Just so's you know, the city has been deliriously happy for the past week.
The madness began on Saturday, I was down on the strip district, home of several fine grocery emporiums. The stores were empty. Everyone was after the street vendors buying Steeler tee shirts, hats, earrings, scarves, etc. One vendor had Steeler confetti cannons and was firing them into the street.
On my way to church on Sunday, I passed a woman scolding her son for going out without his Steeler gear on. Several people in church were wearing Steeler jerseys, sweatshirts, scarves and buttons.
As of Monday the town was walking on air.
On Tuesday there was a welcome home parade downtown. Most of the city was on hand to greet the returning team. It was a happy greeting. Nothing was damaged. No fights, or other stupidity, just much madness.
As of today, there is still a brisk business in tee shirts. Everyone still has their Steeler caps, jackets, shirts, buttons, etc. on, and there's a house down on Roslyn Street displaying a giant black and gold banner declaring the Steelers superbowl champions. I didn't watch the game either. But I am enjoying the festivities.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 08:10 AM

That's the way sports Pride should be!

No fights or riots Just Pride>
good for you Pittsburg.

Raptor


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