BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli

Subject: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: GUEST,speechless
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 10:51 AM

Guantánamo actors questioned under terror act after film festival

Apparently, just being an actor playing the role of someone who has previously suspected of terrorism is enough to get you questioned by the police!

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: GUEST,wordy
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 10:59 AM

Disgusting and disgraceful. No doubt that campaigning student union president as was, Jack Straw, will defend these actions. It's just what everyone predicted would happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Paul Burke
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 11:19 AM

Not surprised.. did you see Walter Wolfgang on Channel 4 the other night- the 80-odd year old Austrian born Jewish lifelong Labour party activist, who was thrown out of the Labour Party conference last year for shouting "rubbish!"

He also showed how a combination of terror laws and ancient bylaws are being used to stifle dissent and protest of all sorts. It figures that in the case above, the police try to slough it off by saying that the actors weren't arrested, a typically weaselly cop-out (no pun).

It seems that the Blairites defeated the Trotskyists in the Labour party- only to replace them by Stalinists.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 12:47 PM

I did indeed see it, Paul. Wonderful programme. Wonderful guy. (Thrown out of the Labour Party conference and held under the Prevention of Terrorism Act for shouting "rubbish" by the way.)

The immediate police explanation was: "The protection of the public is paramount." So you just have to spread enough alarm to frighten the gullible, and panic our reprehensible press, and you can get away with absolutely anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 03:07 PM

Does this mean we will hear more or fewer Irish rebel songs sung by middle class Englishmen who would become instantly insanitary if near an Old Alarum Clock used in anger?

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Amos
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 04:53 PM

That's the kind of answer that Bush would come up with -- irrelevant, non-responsive, button pushing in order to avoid the obvious dissonance and stupidity of an ill-conceived action.

I guess they were operating on the assumption that these people were associating with ex-suspects, so they should "become suspects" just in case. I woudl be tempted to wonder, if I were a cop, if there were anything to it -- I mean, I can understand ghiven the professional paranoia and fear of missing something they "should have" seen.

But it still reeks, does it not?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 05:28 PM

When are the cops going to learn that the negative publicity generated by heavy-handed shit like this does nothing but add fuel to the fire they're supposedly trying to put out? They didn't uncover any terrorists, but they probably helped create a few.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 09:11 PM

A couple of weeks ago, my son and his girl friend, both of whom do work for the Canadian government, flew west from Ottawa to Vancouver, rented a car, and drove down to Seattle to spend a few days with Barbara and me. When they crossed the border into the United States at Blaine, Washington, they were asked if they were bringing in any weapons of mass destruction.

Gotta watch these Canadians (even when one of them has dual citizenship), eh?

Well, actually, Don Jr. and Shannon are both highly intelligent. The way things are going in the U. S. and A. these days, that, in itself, could be considered dangerous.

I'm sure glad to know that Homeland Security is on the job. Makes me feel so much safer. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:19 AM

The trouble is that the skills list, including people handling skills for these jobs would price them at about $100,000.00 a year.

But if you pay peanuts... well actually they pay steroid enhanced peanuts these days, so now they get big apes...

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:35 AM

Two words : Joe McCarthy...

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 06:37 PM

That's four, Bopbert...

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Barry Finn
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:09 PM

So producers & writers now have to fear that if they're filming a movie that may not be what the authorities would like them to film, just intimadate the actors under terror of the terrorist laws & you'll soon have no willing actors to star in these types of film. Media control. Who cares about negitive exposure or fueling the flames when you're fanning the masses. Using the acts of terror is an act of terror when unjustly applied!
Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:39 PM

Actually, what we are seeing weverywhere is a centralization of power similiar to the centralization of power that occured in Germany in the 30's... I don't say this to be overly confrontational to the Bushites here but just making the observations... They can take it or leave it...

It's evrywhere... The governemnt has an undeclared war on journalism as well with jailing of journalists, going after whistle-blowers tooth and nail and discrditing anyone who leaves the Bushite circle and dares to tell the truth... Just y6esterday the Justice Department (ha) came out with a position that if a journalist is in possession of a classified document that he or she is in violation of the law... Hmmmmmmmm? Just think about the implications of this position....

BUT, and this is a biggie... With the innernet, information is out there... The lies don't stand too long.. The whistle blowers are using the innernet to get the truth out and this may save the United Sates from repeating what the Germans went thru... Sure, Bush and the boys are Hell bent on duplicating Hitler's feat but as they are learning, the lies catch up with you a lot sooner these days than they did in the 30's...

God Bless the innernet...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Pied Piper
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 06:48 AM

Our great leader also lied about the person who evicted Wolfgang saying he was a volunteer when in fact he was an employed "Door Man" with a criminal record.

PP

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:12 AM

Right on the button Bobert. And as always, wherever Washington leads, Westminster is desperate to follow.

Some time in the next few days (I'll track down details) C4 in the UK is going to broadcast a documentary by Peter Hitchens - brother of the Christopher well known in the states. He will be demonstrating that the British electorate, reduced by the government to a state of mortal fear, is sleepwalking towards dictatorship. Peter Hichens is well known in Britain as a clarion voice from well to the right on the political spectrum, so this will be interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: ard mhacha
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:23 AM

I imagine this is on the same theme, I bought the "Down from the mountain" DVD and during the introduction of the concert Holly Hunter referred,somewhat angrily to the presence of a number of FBI men filming the proceedings.

Would someone enlighten me as to why the FBI had to be there?.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 11:35 AM

For many years I was a Republican, and considered myself a conservative.

In the mid-60s, the Gingrich years, I went through an agonizing reappraisal. I'm a Democrat now, and (mirabile dictu!) I'd say a liberal, at least in the context of how those labels are thrown around nowadays.

All of which is just to set a background for my considered opinion that the United States is seriously on the road to fascism.   I'm scared.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 03:59 PM

We project our innermost fears onto external entities, DaveO. Consider the whole 'Cold War' thing in that light - "we most tend to become what we fear the most".

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 05:01 PM

The film in question (The Road to Guantanamo by Michael Winterbottom) will screen on Channel 4 on March 9th.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 12 - 11:14 AM

Actor George Clooney has just been arrested after protesting outside the Sudanese embassy in Washington.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 12 - 12:09 PM

How swiftly we jump from a British anti-terrorism incident to the US!

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Amos
Date: 16 Mar 12 - 12:23 PM

Swiftly? It took six years! :D

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 12 - 02:19 PM

oh :)

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: gnu
Date: 16 Mar 12 - 02:26 PM

Good for Clooney. He and his org(s) are doing great work. THIS will really bring the media focus on the problems he is exposing. Heck of a guy, IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: Words fail me (actors questioned by poli
From: jacqui.c
Date: 17 Mar 12 - 09:28 AM

The arrest was deliberate on the part of Clooney, his father and a couple of other men. They knew that such a high profile arrest would gain more media attention to the situation in Darfur. As gnu says - heck of a guy!