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BS: Another Fire Truck Thread

open mike 02 Apr 06 - 03:48 PM
Nigel Parsons 02 Apr 06 - 03:58 PM
Peace 02 Apr 06 - 04:43 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Apr 06 - 04:45 PM
bobad 02 Apr 06 - 05:10 PM
Helen 02 Apr 06 - 05:55 PM
Peace 02 Apr 06 - 05:58 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 02 Apr 06 - 06:48 PM
Peace 02 Apr 06 - 06:56 PM
Once Famous 02 Apr 06 - 10:15 PM
Dave Hanson 02 Apr 06 - 10:40 PM
Dave Swan 02 Apr 06 - 11:05 PM
catspaw49 02 Apr 06 - 11:47 PM
John O'L 03 Apr 06 - 12:30 AM
John O'L 03 Apr 06 - 06:06 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 03 Apr 06 - 08:52 AM
Peace 03 Apr 06 - 10:32 AM
Stilly River Sage 03 Apr 06 - 10:50 AM
Peace 03 Apr 06 - 02:16 PM
number 6 03 Apr 06 - 02:29 PM
Peace 03 Apr 06 - 02:30 PM
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Bert 03 Apr 06 - 02:40 PM
bobad 03 Apr 06 - 03:11 PM
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Jeri 03 Apr 06 - 03:22 PM
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Stilly River Sage 03 Apr 06 - 03:27 PM
Bert 03 Apr 06 - 03:29 PM
Peace 03 Apr 06 - 03:31 PM
number 6 03 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM
Peace 03 Apr 06 - 03:44 PM
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Bee-dubya-ell 03 Apr 06 - 10:16 PM
John O'L 03 Apr 06 - 10:18 PM
GUEST,the most scared person ever !!!!!!!!! 03 Apr 06 - 10:19 PM
GUEST,khandu 03 Apr 06 - 10:19 PM
John O'L 04 Apr 06 - 12:07 AM
open mike 04 Apr 06 - 02:15 AM
Joe Offer 04 Apr 06 - 03:19 AM
John O'L 04 Apr 06 - 04:01 AM
The Shambles 04 Apr 06 - 04:13 AM
GUEST,The guilty party 04 Apr 06 - 04:36 AM
The Shambles 04 Apr 06 - 05:47 AM
gnu 04 Apr 06 - 06:04 AM
John MacKenzie 04 Apr 06 - 07:50 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 04 Apr 06 - 10:34 AM
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The Shambles 04 Apr 06 - 12:54 PM
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Subject: BS: fire truck
From: open mike
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 03:48 PM

some are called fire engines
some are ladders or aerials
some are water tenders or tankers
some airplanes that carry fire retardant
are also called tankers
helicopters carry buckets which they dip into
lakes or rivers to apply on fires..
these are called bambi buckets.
there is a story about one of
these whcih scooped up a scuba diver
unknown if the story is true.

the diver died. if it is true.


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 03:58 PM

I seem to remember this as the solution to one of those 'intelligence' tests where the testee can run a question & answer session (yes/no answers only) to get to the result.
Something along the lines of:
"A sportsman is found dead in a forest, How did he die?"


CHEERS
Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Peace
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 04:43 PM

and rescue vehicles which carry no water but do carry cutters, spreaders (loosely called jaws of life), generators, rope rescue stuff, pylons, flares, burn blankets, saws, wooden blocking and firefighters

the vehicles can be used as a command post when it's really hitting the fan

keep well, open mike

i think of you often and although i know you know what you're doing, i still worry for ya


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 04:45 PM

No thanks I had one last year!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: bobad
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 05:10 PM

The remains mysteriously found deposited in the forest is also integral to the plot of the Mordecai Richler novel "Barney's Version."


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Helen
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 05:55 PM

A firetruck in Oz, at least locally among the firies, is The Pump. A friend of ours started as a volunteer firie a couple of years ago and one day he was excitedly telling us that he was going drive The Pump for the first time. It took some explaining by him to help us to know what he was talking about.

It's not just said in an ordinary way, it is said as if it were The Batmobile, or The Popemobile - i.e. a very special vehicle.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Peace
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 05:58 PM

pumper is a truck that carries water
it also needs to be hooked to a water supply fairly quickly, because it will spray 700 gallons of water in five or six minutes


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 06:48 PM

This thread is a copycat thread! I can tell because I started a few copycat threads myself before seeing the error of my ways and becoming a member of The Copycat Police. As such, it is my duty to inform you that this thread is "stoopid" and "dumbass" and "a waste of bandwidth". I know because I've had my own copycat threads described in exactly those same words by various assholes other Mudcatters whose opinions I hold in utmost contempt the highest regard. Consider yourself duly chastised.


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Peace
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 06:56 PM

Having only ever started fewer than 1,793 copycat threads myself, I can see what BWL is saying. This thread title is a takeoff on "Fun with mangled lyrics".


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 10:15 PM

For a long time I thought that a fire truck came along on an ambulance call in case the person who needed the ambulance had to be hosed down.


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 10:40 PM

Tory bankers, one and all.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: Dave Swan
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 11:05 PM

Pedant alert.

You're right Peace, modern pupmers do carry water. However, most pumpers (engines) you'll find fighting structure fires are capable of around 1500 gallons (US) per minute. We do need to find water quickly.

D


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Apr 06 - 11:47 PM

Why Fire Engines Are Red
..... or at least used to be


Well..............
2 plus 2 is 4 and 3 times 4 is 12.
There are 12 inches in a foot.
A foot is a ruler.
Queens are rulers.
The Queen Mary is a ship.
Ships sail on the sea.
There are fish in the sea.
The fish have fins.
The Fins fought the Russians.
Fire Engines are always rushin'...........
And that's why fire engines are red!


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: John O'L
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 12:30 AM

OK, so why are police cars blue?


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Subject: RE: BS: fire truck
From: John O'L
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 06:06 AM

It's so obvious when you know...


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Subject: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 08:52 AM

So some of us were having an inconsequential and totally harmless conversation about fire trucks when the thread got CLOSED. Well, let's try again and see if we can avoid whatever awful faux pas caused the closing of that thread. Please keep all comments directly related to fire trucks. No snide remarks, innuendos, cussing, or anything else that might upset anyone. Okay?

Now, I like fire trucks. They are red, only some of them are sort of a baby shit green color. (Ooops! Shouldn't have said that, should I?)

Sometimes fire trucks are parked in firehouses. Other times they are parked in the parking lots of stuff-your-face-until-you-puke type buffet restaurants. I guess that's so the firemen don't have to run back to the station if a call comes in. Pretty good idea, huh? Having the fire truck right there, that is, not eating at the feed-bag buffet. That shit'll clog your arteries unless you stick with the salad and broiled fish. (Ooops! I think I said "shit" again. Sorry.)

It's also kinda nice to have lots of trained emergency responders in the restaurant since most of the people eating there are grossly overweight and old as God and the odds of a whole roomful of 'em makin' it through a meal without at least one of 'em having a heart attack and going face-first into his mashed potatoes are pretty damned slim. (Dammit! I think I just insulted fat people and old people both in one overly long sentence. I just don't seem to be able to get this politically correct crap.)
    One of the Clones was reading the thread, and clicked the "close" link by mistake. Sorry 'bout that. I combined the threads.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:32 AM

Dave Swan: From the other thread that was closed--

I hear you. My 'spray it away in five or six minutes' was based on us here having pumpers that carry about 750 Imperial Gallons and having to conserve water for the first few minutes. After that, we need either tanker support or hydrant access like right now. You guys got some heavy machinery there. Keep safe and keep well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:50 AM

Your fire truck thread was closed? Was the topic too hot to handle?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 02:16 PM

"No snide remarks, innuendos, cussing, or anything else that might upset anyone. Okay?"

Fu#kin' A, BWL; I'm with you on that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: number 6
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 02:29 PM

Well done bee-dubya !!!

Outright Beeeeutiful LOL !!

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 02:30 PM

But I gotta ask: What the hell kinda trouble maker starts a thread to copycat a copycat thread? Especially when the original copycat got the big C button. Like, fu#k, ya know? Have you no SHAME? Your thread deSERVES to be closed. You are MISBEHAVING. GO sit in the CORNer. NOW!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: number 6
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 02:35 PM

Jeeez ... I'm feelin kinda guilty now for posting here.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bert
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 02:40 PM

Well I just read the thread that was closed. While it was not a great literary effort I didn't see any reason for closing it.

Could it have been a mistake? Enlighten us someone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: bobad
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:11 PM

I believe JoeO declared a crackdown on copycat threads a while ago - perhaps the thread was ridden out of town by sheriff Joe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:14 PM

I also would like to see an explanation of why the other thread was closed. And I would like to see said explanation posted under the actual member's name instead of some anonymous "Joe Clone" handle. But I don't know why I'm bothering with this post. We'll get a signed explanation when pigs fly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:22 PM

Joe didn't have a problem with a single copycat thread. It shouldn't have been closed, and it could have been re-opened, but not now that there's a second thread.

The link to the original (closed) Fire Truck thread

The dead SCUBA diver story from the other thread is bogus. See Snopes: Corpus Crispi


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:26 PM

Oh, for Christ's fuckin sake! There are stupid witless copycat threads like the bunch of 'em Skipy started a few weeks ago and then there are cases like the "Friar Tuck/Fire Truck" pun that exhibit a fair bit of wit. Closing them just because they happened to have been inspired by a pun is the height of stupidity.

Joe and these "clone" people, whoever the fuck they are, need to step back and take a hard look at what's really going around here before they drive away the small handful of people with senses of humor that haven't left already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:27 PM

I borrowed this from the other thread:


This Thread Is Closed.

But you can drive your truck around this roadblock. Go for it, BWL!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bert
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:29 PM

Just what good did it do to close the thread, apart from pissing people off? Or was the the intention?

The dead scuba diver story is more aptly described as urban legend than bogus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:31 PM

"Joe and these "clone" people, whoever the fuck they are, need to step back and take a hard look at what's really going around here before they drive away the small handful of people with senses of humor . . ."

And THAT ain't funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: number 6
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM

Jeeeezuz ... I'm not laffing.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:44 PM

"Joe didn't have a problem with a single copycat thread. It shouldn't have been closed . . .".

The question is, "Why WAS it closed?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:52 PM

??? wow...that was a strange thread to have been closed.

Enlighten us, Joe...or whomeever.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 04:01 PM

BWL, what makes you think you're talking to 'people' instead of 'person'. I wouldn't have closed it, Bert wouldn't have, and nobody should have.

It also would have been easy to re-open a thread that shouldn't have been closed in the first place - message in the Help forum, PM to Joe.

Apparently bitching is more satisfying for some of you than getting a mistake fixed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 04:27 PM

Weird.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bert
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 04:46 PM

A PM to Joe doesn't anwer the question for everbody else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 07:19 PM

Do not go gently into that good night . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: bobad
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 07:51 PM

Rage, rage against the dying of the light


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 08:26 PM

This Thread is Still Open.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: gnu
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 08:27 PM

Okay then. It APPEARS, in my OPINION, that there is the POSSIBILITY that, a mistake MAY have been made. Obiously, IF such did actually occur, it will get corrected, I am sure.

Forgive me if I sound like the voice of reason... lord knows I very seldom have any reason to seem to make sense, as you well know, but, perhaps all this will make sense when explained? If it is explained. If it is not explained, well, there is no sense in trying to figure it out.

I hope this helps.

dearabbyveryconfusedgnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 08:45 PM

You're right, gnu, it does APPEAR, in your OPINION, that there is the POSSIBILITY that, a mistake MAY have been made. And it APPEARS, in my OPINION, that there is the POSSIBILITY that, a rogue moderator is using his position to close threads and delete posts in personal vendettas against other members.

Until such time as whoever actually closed the thread identifies himself and either confirms that it was a MISTASKE or gives a reasonable explanation for why it was closed, I will continue to hold that OPINION.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John O'L
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:05 PM

It's my fault. Sorry to you all. I have that effect on threads. Previously they have just dropped off the menu 24 hours after I make my post, but now it seems they are getting a bit of hurry-up.

I have a similar effect on checkout queues. As soon as I stand in line the cash register goes bung, or someone presents an item with a faulty barcode. I live in a constant state of impending breakdown. Get used to it. I'm here to stay.

But as I said, sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:16 PM

That doesn't happen to me, John. I usually get behind someone who's buying three shopping carts full of stuff for a church or charitable organization and who gives her sales tax exemption card to the cashier after it's all been rung up and bagged.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John O'L
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:18 PM

Oh yeah, I'm familiar with that one. Done it myself in fact...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: GUEST,the most scared person ever !!!!!!!!!
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:19 PM

The rogue vigelante clone strikes again..

be he/her myth or fearful grim reality..

we mere mortals must be all most terriblesome scaredyfied.. ?????


eeeek!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:19 PM

Okay...the thread was closed because I, khandu, King of All Mississippi, demanded that it be closed! "Why?" you ask, incredulously...

Two reasons...damned good reasons!

One...John O'Lennaine posted to the thread. That in itself is reason enough to shut the whole board down. Shut it down before it self destructs! He has that effect. I have seen it and I shall endeavor to shut down every thread upon which he posts his "kill the thread" messages.

Two...(Which is really the number one reason though it is number two) The first rule of fire truck threads has ever been, is now, and shall ever be "They must include the "Firetruck" stanza from Leon Albo's "The Spelling Song".

The original copy-cat Fire Truck thread, which was shut down, did not abide by the rule. It did not have the stanza included.

Now, in order to meet the requirements, which is really unnecessary since this thread will soon die anyway since John O'Lennaine has posted to it, I shall now include the necessary stanza.

"What starts with an "F" and ends with a "U-C-K"?
"What starts with an "F" and ends with a "U-C-K"?
"When your house starts burning down
You'd better hope it comes around"
"What starts with an "F" and ends with a "U-C-K"?
"FIRETRUCK"

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 12:07 AM

So Khandu, in his infinite wisdom, has rectified the first fault (which is second) of the first thread in the second, while the second fault (which is first) of the first and second threads remains effective (if such a word isn't oxymoronic in this context).


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: open mike
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 02:15 AM

will the REEL copy cat thread, please stand up.

hey who said you could close my friar tuck/fire truck thread?

and why does this one get to stay open?

it just might be time to put the wet stuff on the red stuff..

if this were a real fire truck it could squirt you with 800
gallons of water at 1250 gallons per minute..then you would
be sorry!~!

welcome back Swanno--glad to see you rose up from the
ranks of the seriously loafing and jumped to attention...
code three!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 03:19 AM

Well, the Clone said his trigger finger slipped and hit the "close" link. I combined threads, and the Clone was quite embarrassed and apologetic and says he really likes fire engines a lot.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:01 AM

Well that makes the pole even slipperier. What do we do with all this righteous indignation?

'Slipperier'?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:13 AM

Just in case anyone may have missed this explanation which was inserted into an existing post as an editing comment and did not refresh the thread - I will copy it here.

One of the Clones was reading the thread, and clicked the "close" link by mistake. Sorry 'bout that. I combined the threads.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: GUEST,The guilty party
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:36 AM

There is no need for The Shambles to go into a feeding frenzy just because I made a mistake.
The Close Thread link is so placed that it is close to the Next Page link and it is an easy slip to make if you are not paying attention, which I obviously wasn't.
I apologise profusely, I am sorry if that disappoints the conspiracy theorists, but it was as Joe said, a slip of the finger.

JC (in sackcloth and ashes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 05:47 AM

How do we know that you are who you claim to be?

Is this the same anonymous fellow poster who also screwed-up here or another one?

Closing threads


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: gnu
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 06:04 AM

Now, I am not one to say, "I told you so."


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 07:50 AM

Ah Roger you are obviously not a Christian as turning the other cheek is not in your repertoire.
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 10:34 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 03:14 PM

I also would like to see an explanation of why the other thread was closed. And I would like to see said explanation posted under the actual member's name instead of some anonymous "Joe Clone" handle. But I don't know why I'm bothering with this post. We'll get a signed explanation when pigs fly.



As we can see from the post by "Guilty Party" above, pigs still don't fly. I, personally, find sincerity and anonymity to be somewhat contradictory concepts.


Rhetorical question:

If forum moderator anonymity is such a great idea, why is this the only discussion forum I can recall visiting where the names of the moderators aren't prominently listed right on the opening page?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 10:58 AM

And they get all the shit that any member cares to fling at them. I bet you wouldn't like to deal with Joe Offer's PMs etc, from members complaining about this that and the other. I know that when I was at Max's he had a very long list of PMs, apparently a regular occurence.
I certainly wouldn't like to have someone with the persistence of The Shambles PMing or e-mailing me with their complaints for 7 years!
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 12:54 PM

It is a good rule in life never to apologize.
The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.


P. G. Wodehouse


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 12:58 PM

And they get all the shit that any member cares to fling at them.

Shit does not stick to shadows

Benson Spencer-Goodrich


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bert
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 01:19 PM

....And they get all the shit that any member cares to fling at them...

Not true, I've always (well for the last few years at least) made changes using my own name.

I have never received any flack for it from anyone.

Why I even changed one of Shambles thread titles the other day, changing week to year. It was probably an abuse of my editing priveleges because it was done as a joke. I just couldn't resist it. But I did fess up immediately and haven't received any flack for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 01:22 PM

Yeah. Well, you are upfront about it, Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 01:26 PM

Subject: RE: In the UK..............?
From: Bert - PM
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 09:11 PM

Well said Shambles. The thread title should NEVER be changed without the consent of the originator
.

*smiles*


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bert
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 01:34 PM

I KNOW, I KNOW!!! I was BAD. *Grinning fiendishly*


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 02:41 PM

Your divide and rule campaign is going well Roger!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:21 PM

Ah, the click that launched a thousand words....

Mountain-molehill analogies might be appropriate here also.

If you have complaints about Mudcat editorial actions, complain to me and I'll check it out. My name is prominently displayed in the FAQ as the public contact person, the one to contact about such problems - and you can also contact Jeff and Max. That's why we don't have the Clones identify their actions, to help prevent the Manipulators from playing one volunteer against another.

Bert isn't really a JoeClone because he used to be employed at Mudcat Central, and I'm pretty sure he had editing ability before I got it in 1997. So, maybe I'm a BertClone?

Whatever the case, the people responsible are Max and Jeff and Joe, and those are the people to consult if you have problems or questions.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bert
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:35 PM

I'll second that Joe.

Whatever the case, the people responsible are Max and Jeff and Joe, and those are the people to consult if you have problems or questions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: number 6
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:39 PM

Mudcat Central ... sounds intriguing ... that's the first time I've heard of that. Is this some big nameless tower in downtown Manhattin, or some undground complex in the flatlands of Kansas with men in gray jumpsuits driving around in golf carts.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:45 PM

Sounds more like a railway station to me six.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: number 6
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:47 PM

Yeah ... a railway station in some small outback town where the trains don't stop anymore.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 04:51 PM

It's in an unromantic basement in PA.
Bert is your credit card still good at the Mudcat Hotel?
G. ☺


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 05:08 PM

At one time Mudcat Central was a very nice office located right above a very nice tavern in West Chester, Pennsylvania. It has a round-the-clock staff and lots of niceties - and Bert and Max were there, in the flesh. we had a live Webcast from the tavern once, and they even let me sing a few songs.

Alas, the office closed and now we're in a basement, and Max opens our cages only at feeding times. He's a harsh taskmaster, he is...

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: number 6
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 06:09 PM

Jeeeze Joe .... sounds rather bleak.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: bobad
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 06:37 PM

What do you get to eat, Mudcat chow?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 06:41 PM

The higher the building the lower the morals.

Noel Coward


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 07:06 PM

Shambles, didn't you just shoot yourself in the foot?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 07:12 PM

Why would you think that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 09:19 PM

Thanks for all the explanations, apologies and reassurances. I hope you'll understand if I choose to remain skeptical.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 09:34 PM

Let me reassure you, BeeDub...I have offered no apologies, explanations or reassuranc...uh, no apologies or explanations. If you'd asked me a minute ago I would have hit 100%! But I am skeptical that you would have asked.

k


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 10:16 PM

Ya' know khandu, it's been almost exactly three years since that exorcism of your Joe Offer worship.
........Might be time for another.....Or maybe one for Shambles.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 02:56 AM

Subject: RE: In the UK..............?
From: GUEST,khandu - PM
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 10:39 AM

I am with The Shambles on this one.

A couple of years back, I created a thread regarding a certain troll. Within moments, Pene Azul pmed me and explained that he believed this thread would probably do far more harm than good and requested permission to delete it.

Certainly, he could have deleted it without bothering to ask. But Jeff showed more class than that.

The simple act of contacting me beforehand made all the difference in the world. I told him to delete it and I felt rather good about it all.

Had he or anyone else deleted it without contact, I would have been pissed and would have posted a grumbling thread about it.

Simple decency goes a long way.

Change my thread titles? Sure, if you believe there is a good reason. But show some civility and respect to the creator of the thread by sending a simple PM.

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 10:25 AM

Thanks for posting that, Roger. I totally agree with khandu's sentiments.

A similar thing happened a few weeks ago when some moron started a thread asking for URLs of people's favorite porn sites. Several of us were having fun with it, posting links to pictures of non-pornographic stuff like sheep, vegetables and Margaret Thatcher dolls when someone pointed out that, though no links to genuine porn had been posted, the potential existed. She asked permission to request that the thread be deleted and everyone saw the logic of her argument and said "Go for it."

Sometimes we tend to be like kids playing in a sandbox and when Mom snatches us out with no explanation we get angry. If Mom would take the time to explain that someone forgot to put the lid on the sandbox and the cats have been shitting in it for weeks we'd be grateful instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 03:57 PM

Shambles, didn't you just shoot yourself in the foot?

He never realises when he does. ...the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them in this thread is one more of many examples.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 05:34 PM

Wolfgang -

I have no idea what you are trying to say in your post but it appears to be you needing to say things about me in public for some reason -perhaps in the hope that some other posters may join you in this?

Which could be judged to be not very polite of you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Wolfgang
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 09:43 AM

Shambles,

you are the expert in judging other peoples' posts, so don't ask.
I talk about you for you have proved that talking to you is completely pointless.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 10:26 AM

Try talking with him instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 10:34 AM

Ya, know, nodody's said a thing about firetrucks on this thread for, like, fifty posts or so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 10:50 AM

We have a new fire truck in our village, but we have a couple of Dufus (sp?) fire officials--they're like little boys running around playing at firemen. They spend a lot of time polishing their chrome and brass.

How's that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: bobad
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 11:24 AM

The favorite saying of our local volunteer firemen is "we haven't lost a foundation yet."


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 11:25 AM

Pugh
Pugh


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 12:04 PM

Barney McGrew


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 02:19 PM

Cuthbert


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 02:24 PM

Dibble
and ........


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 09:37 PM

Hey! Wanna see the fire station where I live? Click here, here, and here. That's how it looked right after Hurrican Ivan in September of 2004. It doesn't look appreciably different today. Don't ask me where the firetrucks are being kept.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: bobad
Date: 06 Apr 06 - 10:30 PM

Judging from what I can see in the pix the structure doesn't look any too robust for being in a hurricane zone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 05:31 AM

No Trumpton fans here then?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 05:33 AM

Grub


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 06:23 AM

Phew!

I mean Pugh


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 06:44 AM

Not to be forgotten are the ever-ready Trumpton Fire Brigade, Captain Flack's gallant crew, whose roll-call can be recited by every British television viewer of a certain age: Pugh! Pugh! Barney McGrew! Cuthbert! Dibble! & Grubb! (Pugh and Pugh are twins).

This roll-call is heard in every episode (except one in which Cuthbert is omitted because he is on leave), because the Fire Brigade is continually being called out to attend some emergency or other - but to Captain Flack's annoyance, never an actual fire! (Actually the reason for this is that fire would be too difficult to animate.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 06:52 AM

99 is the new 100!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 06:55 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Censorship on Mudcat
From: GUEST,Joe Offer - PM
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 11:28 AM

Well, I can't log in, either, so I don't have access to proof one way or another. Generally, the 100th/200th claims are a no-no in music threads and in many serious discussions. People have come to think of them as obnoxious. I don't know why, but that's what they think.
I don't bother with them, but they're fair game for the Clones.
-Joe Offer-

    This is post #100. Since it's a complete quote from me, do I get credit for hitting #100, or does the blame credit go to Shambles?
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 06:59 AM

Have the post deleted then, I care not!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 07:24 AM

Yer right, bobad, that firehouse was built on the cheap. Just a prefab metal building, not much different from an outbuilding on a farm. After the last couple of hurricane seasons you can bet nobody'd build one like that again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Apr 06 - 06:14 PM

You may have missed this editing comment as it was inserted into an existing post and did not refresh this thread.

This is post #100. Since it's a complete quote from me, do I get credit for hitting #100, or does the blame credit go to Shambles?
-Joe Offer-


I don't bother with them myself but they're fair game for other posters.
*Smiles*


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 08 Apr 06 - 03:04 PM

104 is the post to hit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Fire Truck Thread
From: Peace
Date: 08 Apr 06 - 03:04 PM

. . . but 105 jus' don't mean shit.


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