BS: Name That Mudcatter

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Emma B
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM

Which one is big in underground circles?

Oaklet is my candidate for the drain brain :)

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Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 01:44 PM

Kendall owns a harpoon.
El Swanno with the help of KoKo (you don't want to know) has his own home brew label.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 01:46 PM

Correct in every respect Emma B, give that girl in the Cretonne thong a coconut!

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 01:47 PM

Actually, Stephen Foster was not born in nor did he ever live in Kentucky. He is a native of Lawrenceville, a section of Pittsburgh that is indeed, a 5 minutes drive from where I live.

See this excerpt:

"Stephen Collins Foster (July 4, 1826 - January 13, 1864) was the pre-eminent songwriter in the United States of his era. Many of his songs, such as "Oh! Susanna", "Camptown Races" and "Beautiful Dreamer", are still popular over 150 years after their composition.

Foster was born in Lawrenceville, which later became part of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and grew up as the youngest of ten children in a relatively well-off family."...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Foster

Also, see this excerpt:

"To America Foster has meant much. His songs are so native in their character that there need be no hesitation in stating that his was the most national expression that any of our composers has yet achieved. Born and raised here in Pittsburgh, he was little affected by the foreign music that enslaved those who lived on the seaboard. The voices Stephen heard were those of the minstrel shows, the singing and dancing of negroes on the wharves of the Ohio River, and the sentimental songs of midcentury that were carried through the country by the 'singing families' in concert and that were sung by demure young ladies who played the accompaniments on square pianos covered with brocade and lace."

Lawrenceville People: Stephen Collins Foster

Bottom line is Kentucky can't claim Foster. He was a Pittsburgher.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 01:51 PM

Btw, I hate the small 'n' for Negroes in that last excerpt..but that's another subject...

Also, the phrase "he was little affected by the foreign music that enslaved those who lived on the seaboard" is ironic. But again, that's a whole 'nother story.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM

Ha! Lawrenceville is the setting for "The Lawrenceville Stories," a collection of tales about a boys' boarding school in New England. Dink Stover went there before he went to Yale about 1909. See the works of Owen Johnson. Ha!

(My brother also has a harpoon. Living in the middle of Illinois he doesn't get to use it very often.)

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:09 PM

I'm putting on my Ruler hat again to say that some folks are forgetting to reference the question that they are answering when they post the answer.

Sometimes I can figure it out, but sometimes I can't.

Am I the only one confused? Misery likes company ya know.

Not to mention that Amos pulled a redsnapper with this post:

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Amos - PM
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 09:52 AM

Which mudcatter plays with fire engines, saves lives, sings tenor and mushes huskies all in ONE lifetime!!!???


A

****

If you post your name or initial after a question, that might be misconstrued as the answer to the question. Ok, maybe not in this case, but suppose there was/is a Catter named "A". We got one named "Q" ...

****

So, Griok [not to pick on you by any means] but, what does this refer to "1 Is Skipjack, correctly answered" and "Correct in every respect Emma B" refer to?

And Rapaire, what question does this post refer to:
Righto, MMario. Amergin it was".

****

Sometimes following the rules help make things easier.

The great Ruler- Mighty Z- has spoken {or at least has typed}.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:22 PM

The answers given were to the questions quoted above.
Wikipedia notwithstanding I have Bardstown Kentucky in the little book my SS sent me, so that's what Im going by. Couldn't have meant you Azizi, as I didn't know where you lived!
So which Mudcatter [not around much recently] lives near Bardstown KY.
OK??

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:27 PM

Okey dokey, Giok.

I'll add

"which Mudcatter [not around much recently] lives near Bardstown KY"

to the question list.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:29 PM

121. Which Catter owns a harpoon???

Cap'n Kendall

93. Which lady Mudcatter pulled a "Janet Jackson" on stage at the Getaway last year?

Ms CatsPhiddle

109. Which Mudcatter is colour co-ordinated right down to his skivvies?

Leadfingers - so I am told!

Pene Azul

Which Mudcatter who lives in the land down under has a reference to that in her Mudcat name?

Freda Underhill?


Dani - you couldn't be in trouble with me - Kendall wouldn't allow it. I do think that even Seamus has to come in secong to Jack though.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:38 PM

Oh, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea MAXIMA culpa, Mighty Ruleress!!
As amends I will shred sixteen consonants before breakfast.


A
(First Vowel)

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: greg stephens
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:50 PM

Not sure if these people have been in all ready, but if so, here they are again.
Which Mudcatter with Iberian leanings follows the true path?
Which Mudcatter sounds a bit lucky, but his real first name would be a fine thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Alice
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:59 PM

Sinsull, actually, KOKO did not design the beer label.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 02:59 PM

The answer to the question about what mudcatter has actually met me in the flesh. It's Amergin. Only Amergin. And even then I was an astral projection.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Bassic
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:02 PM

Which Mudcatter with Iberian leanings follows the true path?

I wouldn't dare show my face in the Laptop and Ferret again if I didn't get this one...

el Ted! (Flamenco the true Path!)

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:07 PM

Pene Azul I assume is the Blue Feather, although I've heard a ruder translation.
G.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:20 PM

Feather????
I think not! It matches his blue balls, I am told.
And I know that from Mudcat folklore not for a fact.

Back to color coordinated underwear - I refuse to believe that Mrs. Duck allows her mister to go out with non-matching undies.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:37 PM

I know of NO language where "pene" means feather.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:38 PM

Nothing Geoff wears matches, unless you count technicolour as a shade.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:38 PM

89. Name three other Catters who share, or have shared his [Guy Wolff's] profession.
A#1 John Hardly is one (potter)
A#2 ???
A#3 ???

Two other potters I know of are Mudlark and Bsondahl (Brad Sondahl). There may be others as well...

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: bobad
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:43 PM

I always thought that the pasta known as penne was so named because it resembled a sharpened quill.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: MMario
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 03:55 PM

pene is not penne; but they actually probably derived from the same root; along with pterodactyl and hippopotamus and other seemingly unrelated words.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Alice
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 04:11 PM

Has his own home brew label - I was looking for the answer Dave Swan, but El Swanno will do, according to SINSULL.
Remember, I said HAS A LABEL, I didn't really say he has home brew, did I? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 05:01 PM

Which Mudcatters have held the position of Secret Santa Secretary (Clue, there are 3)

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 05:40 PM

"Which Mudcatter who lives in the land down under has a reference to that in her Mudcat name?

Freda Underhill?"

That's the name that I was thinking of, but Sandra in Sydney is also correct.

****

Alice, you were right about the answer to this question:
"What Mudcatter is a ruler of a library in the hinterlands of the USA?
Answer - Rapaire!"

You were also right than what is considered hinterlands is in the eye of the beholder. Well, maybe not. New York City or Los Angeles could never be considered 'hinterland'.

Wastelands full of sound and fury signifying nothing-yeah maybe that.

But that depends on who's looking too.

[Redsnapper-I hope you're meditating on all of this].

;o}

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudsplatter
From: Severn
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 06:32 PM

Which Mudcat(s) is/are also Pirates?


(Shhhhhhh!....for Private Ears* only!......)


Skivee, for one. Other "Pyrates Royale" are probably in here as well.
But, in their case, it must be spelled with a "Y"

Pontius Pirate is rumored to have once been here, but to have washed his hands of this place and gone.


*The aforementioned ears go for a buck apiece

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 09:11 PM

Illegal alien.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 10:37 PM

homage to animal highly regarded by ancient Egyptians and Native Americans: I would say it could be any of blackcatter, catspaw49, CatsPHiddle, or possibly Katlaughing, except I wasn't aware if Native Americans had as much of a thing for cats as the Egyptians did.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 10:42 PM

Who is the 'Catter who always has at least a half-page of explanation on nearly any technical question--and usually has the correct answer?

Villan, you are correct--that would be JohnInKansas. :>)

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 10:48 PM

Which Mudcatter who lives in the land down under has a reference to that in her Mudcat name?

Freda Underhill?

Ms. Freda told us once, ages ago, that she posts with this name on purpose so her own name isn't spotted in this. . . ahem. . . inappropriate site. The name is homage to The Hobbit (I think of the four books in that cycle) and NOT to being on the underside of the planet. (In other words, try again. That wasn't the correct answer!)

;-D

BWL, you're a potter. Did you post that original question, is that why your name isn't included in the answer to naming the Mudcat potters?

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 10:56 PM

I am? Oh... I forgot. That makes four of us then. Five, including Guy.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 11:25 PM

"Which Mudcatter who lives in the land down under has a reference to that in her Mudcat name?

Freda Underhill?...In other words, try again. That wasn't the correct answer!)"

-snip-

Well, Stilly, when I posted this question I was thinking of the Mudcat name "Freda Underhill". I admit that I never read "The Hobbit" books. However, I think that the reason why Freda selected her name is immaterial to my thought processes for devising & posting this question.

Though I wasn't thinking of the name Sandra in Sydney {sorry Sandra] when I posted this question, I stand by my statement that both "Freda Underhill" and "Sandra in Sydney" are correct answers for this question. And this question may have other correct answers for all I know.

I'm open to that possibility.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 11:38 PM

I wrote & posted the question "What Mudcatter has a name which pays homage to an animal that is highly regarded by ancient Europeans and Native Americans as well?"

frogprince, you wrote-"homage to animal highly regarded by ancient Egyptians and Native Americans: I would say it could be any of blackcatter, catspaw49, CatsPHiddle, or possibly Katlaughing, except I wasn't aware if Native Americans had as much of a thing for cats as the Egyptians did."

-snip-

Actually, I wasn't even thinking of cats. I knew that Egyptians payed homage to cats, but I didn't know that Native Americans did also. But since you're saying that is so, then yes, given the way I phrased the question, all those answers you gave are correct. And there may be other correct responses.

But here's the question that I thought that I was asking:

"What Mudcatter has a Germanic name which pays homage to an animal that is highly regarded by ancient Europeans and Native Americans as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 11:53 PM

I just read your post again, frogprince.

Somehow, frogprince, when I read your post and saw "Egyptians and Native Americans" I thought that was the same as my reference to "European" and "Native American" in that question.

Did Europeans pay homage to cats like ancient Egyptians did?

Also, since I make so many typos, did you think that I had mistyped and written "ancient Europeans" but meant "ancient Egyptians"?

I'm sure you're aware that Egypt is in Africa and not Europe.

I guess I'm not sure how you got to Egypt.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 11:59 PM

That would be Raedwulf?

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 12:03 AM

Or maybe Wolfgang?

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 12:08 AM

Bingo!! Sorcha wins that prize!

I was thinking of Wolfgang but Raedwulf is also a correct response.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 12:09 AM

I just had a brain fadeout and read "Europeans" as "Egyptians"; so, in the words of the immortal Gilda Radner, "Never Mind".

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 01:09 AM

Actually, frogprince, I bet you were just showing off a creative way to come up with another guestion and then proceeded to answer it too.

That question is:

"What Mudcatter has a name which pays homage to an animal that is highly regarded by ancient Egyptians?"

And you posted your answer as:

"I would say it could be any of blackcatter, catspaw49, CatsPHiddle, or possibly Katlaughing, except I wasn't aware if Native Americans had as much of a thing for cats as the Egyptians did."

;o}

[I left off the reference to Native Americans unless you or someone else confirms that they paid homage to cats].

See this information about wolfs in European & Asian cultures:

The wolf was one of the most popular clan totems in pre-Christian Europe, as indicated even now by the prevalence of names like Wolf, Wolfe, Wulf, Wulfstan, Wolfram, and Wolfburg. Many tribes "turned themselves into wolves" periodically at religious festivals, by wearing wolf masks and skins.

In classical antiquity the wolf was thought of as a 'ghost animal' whose very gaze could strike people speechless. Herodotus and Pliny the Elder report that the members of the Scythian nation of the Neuroi were transformed into wolves once a year, then back into humans. Behind the story could lie a memory of a wolf totem for the entire nation; Genghis Khan also claimed to be descended from a blue-grey 'chosen wolf' which itself was sired by the sky."

For more info click: http://www.likeacat.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=9

Also, see this website for information on the symbolism wolfs had/have in some [or many ??] Native American cultures:

"Wolves are knowen as the teachers.They have been long considered by the First Nations people as teachers or pathfinders.

The wolf is held in very high esteem, as they are used as totems and representative of clans. In the stars, Wolf is represented by the Dog, Sirius in the Pleadies ,thought by many abroginal tribes to be the home of the "Ancients."...

http://www.geocities.com/wolfpies/animaltopics/wolfsymbol.html

See also this excerpt about cat symbolism in Egyptian, Celtic and other cultures [but it didn't mention Native Americans]:

Cats Mischevious, playful, alluring, intuitive, cats embody the essence of magick and mystery. As totems and spirit guides they offer protection, independence, psychic power, sensuality and self confidence. They are associated with the Moon, the Night and the element of Fire. Traditionally seen as the archetypical witch's familiar, cats are a magnificent aid to grounding, and just stroking their fur can bring calm, healing and a sense of peace. With their mysterious airs, it is no wonder that cats have been revered, mythologized and sometimes even feared since ancient times. During the Burning Times, cats were firmly entrenched in our mythology as the familiar animal of witches, and often murdered along with their owners. The lack of cats to kill rats allowed the Black Death to spread swiftly across Europe. In sharp contrast, the Egyptians treated them as gods and kings and even mummified them after their deaths, and killing a cat (even by accident) was punishable by death. The Egyptian goddess Bast, protectress of the Pharoah and of women, was seen as a cat or a cat-headed woman. Because of the cat's penchant for freedom, the Romans depicted the goddess of Liberty as having a cat at her feet. Freya, the Norse goddess of passion and fertility was associated with cats, and Shosti, the childbirth goddess of the Hindu mythos rides a cat. In Celtic lore, heroes were often seen battling giant cats rather than dragons."

http://www.tween-the-shadows.com/magick/symbols_magick/cats.php

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 01:14 AM

Well anyway I meant to leave off the reference to Native Americans in your answer to that Egyptian/cat question, frogprince...

And btw, guestion=question.

Have I mentioned lately that proofreading is not my strongest suit?

:o}}

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: freda underhill
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 01:52 AM

Which Mudcatter who lives in the land down under has a reference to that in her Mudcat name?

I looked at that and couldn't for the life of me think who it could be!
(ding.. hits head!) SRS you're right in that I chose a female form of Frodo (freda) and Underhill was Frodo's name when he went incognito at the Prancing Pony.

Re Frodo:

In Old English, fród means "wise by experience." For the name Baggins, Tolkien intended to recall the word "bag." The associated name Bag End was meant to imply "cul-de-sac." This was the local name of Tolkien's aunt's farm in Worcestershire, which was located at the end of a lane that led no further. ("Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings," p. 160, 178) Baggins may also be a reference to bagging, a term used in northern England for eating between meals. (Annotated Hobbit, ch. 1, note 3)

Mr. Underhill:
Frodo assumed this alias on leaving the Shire. It is a reference to his home at Bag End, under The Hill. However, the only time he used it was at the Prancing Pony in Bree.

However, Azizi is also right, my name (and Sandra's) perfectly fit her clue!

freda

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 04:25 AM

Please Azizi I know what you mean, but can I be pedantic and say there is only one correct answer to a given question. Another answer may fit the description, but if it's not the answer the poser of the question wanted, then it's wrong.
Giok

Sorry, I'll get me coat.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Mo the caller
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 05:53 AM

No, no Giok. If the question is "name the Mudcatter I am thinking of who ...." then there is only one correct answer. Otherwise there may be multiple answers.

Mothe pedant

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 06:14 AM

Giok, how many pendants does a pendant thread have if a pendant thread could have pendants?

[Meditate on that redsnapper and all others who seek to achieve enlightenment by playing The Game].

As to your statements, Griok that "there is only one correct answer to a given question. Another answer may fit the description, but if it's not the answer the poser of the question wanted, then it's wrong", to that I-gameplayer #1, the Ruleress, the Great & Mighty Z, say that in this Game your statement "bes that way sometimes".
But at other times "That don't mean a thing cause it aint got that swing.

do wah do wah do wah.

So I know you get my drift, Griok -master in your own right. But for all those who are new to Game playing, let me break it down:

While I carry the torch and remain the Ruler, which is to say the Ruless which is to say the game player #1, which is to say the Great & Mighty Z, based on the Rules of the Game and based on my Great & Mighty Gut, when I say that an answer is correct, then that answer is correct.

And while I carry the torch and remain the Ruler, which is to say the Ruless which is to say the game player #1, which is to say the Great & Mighty Z, based on the Rules of the Game and based on my Great & Mighty Gut, when I say an answer is incorrect, it is incorrect.

This is true except when some other gamesplayer says what I thought was correct is incorrect and I change my Great & Mighty Mind about that the answer being correct.

And has happened before and this will happen again.

And thus is life.

And in due course, which means at the time of the new edition to the Guide to the Perplexed or whenever, I the Ruless, the Great & Mighty Z, will issue a correction to my previous pronouncement that the answer was correct and is now incorrect or the other way around.

I have spoken, or typed as the case may be.

And let me say this also...

Remember that the first rule of The Game, is that all Games players, including me, gamesplayer #1, play nice.

And the second rule of The Game is the same as the first rule-

No Games player, including me, gamesplayer #1, should ever PIP.

And what does PIP mean?

You-the collective you-tell me.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Azizi
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 06:22 AM

"If the question is "name the Mudcatter I am thinking of who ...." then there is only one correct answer. Otherwise there may be multiple answers"-Mo the Caller

Yes, that's true.

However, sometimes I & I are we.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 06:24 AM

It's a bugger that megalomania isn't it?

¦¬]

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 07:05 AM

How many pedants could a pedant thread have? Be easier to count those involved who were not being pedantic. You might find one....

Back to the quiz. Isn't Liz the squeak one of the secret santa secretaies?

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Mo the caller
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 07:42 AM

Name a Mudcatter who pulls ugly faces and spouts a lot (especially when not Americans post to Mudcat)

Name a Mudcatter who buZZes about playfully, patiently promoting intercontinental, inter-racial understanding.

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 08:50 AM

As Both Ted and I have been named for doing just this - - - -

Subject: RE: BS: Name That Mudcatter
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 08:50 AM

400 !!!