Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John J
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 11:05 AM

In my opinion: Steve is a scientist and as such is more likely than most to report accurately from his observations.

I enjoyed Sidmouth hugely, I couldn't afford season tickets so spent most of my time at fringe events (mainly singing in the Middle Bar in excellent company) apart from buying tickets for a couple of very good concerts.

There is little doubt that the festival is different to what it was 10 years ago when I last went, but that was it, it was different.

I will certainly be back next year both for the Middle Bar Re-union and the festival itself.

John

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: MBSLynne
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 02:07 PM

We WERE advising people about the quieter, noisier and very noisy bits of the campsite, certainly up until I finished manning the gate on Friday afternoon. It's always been one of the things we've told campers. I agree with Colin that going to sleep to the sound of live music and conversation is really rather nice, and i don't think telling people to be quiet when they are having a good session is part of the folk festival ethos. I do think the people who were shouting, screaming and 'whooping'...making gratuitous noise apparently for the sake of it should have been asked, politely to keep it down.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,Dan ABN
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 02:43 PM

>"a very fair, even handed critique on his website"

>" The campsite was full of drunken morons who had no regard for those us trying to sleep."

I love the combination of those two phrases. Thanks for the laugh Chucky.

On a more serious note, Steve's website is full of inaccuracies and associated knee-jerk conclusions. The sound levels across the whole site are going down, not up (more health and safety legislation and licensing conditions at work). The Anchor security were employed directly by the Anchor themselves not the festival, and their presence (the presence of SIA trained security) is a legal requirement now.

The management at the festival did a good job, and will do a better job again next year. It was my 24th festival (I'm 25 years old) and it was good to be back.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: mikefromdorch
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM

I don't know about Rosie's singarounds as I didn't go to them, but if we are praising her, let's also put on record how well organised,fair and thoroughly enjoyable Kitty and Tim's sessions in the Theatre Bar were,too. Their ability to remember people's names was pretty impressive, too.
MuddleC - I had the same problem with the Gregorian Chant workshop and didn't go back after the first day, but in fairness it must be very difficult to predict how many copies of the music will be needed.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,HUGO
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 06:38 PM

Yeah, the Theatre Bar singing was great and well done to all who participated
hugo

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Chris Cole
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 06:51 PM

Ohhh stop moaning.
Let's have some positives.
Seth.... what a gem of a concert and an opportunity to test the heavy handed stewarding. Didn't Oliver Cromwell try to ban dancing? How unnatural to remain seated through that performance. Go Seth go and bring some people into our world.
Roy Bailey and Chumbawamba.. great to see the Socialist Worker selling his wares and then taking his seat. Roy was just so happy to be there, I thought he would kiss John and Martin. The beautiful simplicity of Chumbawamba..no analysing there.. but a lasting memory of OS maps as porn!!!
Those fireworks... what a spectacle and fitting end to the week. That "fan" just before the end.. stunning. Loved the people who had set up a table on the road outside the Bedford to watch the parade. How civilised.
The lovely atmosphere in the Blackmore Gardens.. the chap singing "There was an old lady who swallowed a fly".. the kids were enraptured. That is what the world of folk should be about - continuity and family. Thanks to Phillipa for all her hard work for the children's festival - NOONE ever mentions the hard work done there, invlolving the kids...and why no Chipolatas for the last couple of years...join in now.. ONE BALL ON THE FLOOR, ONE BALL ON THE FLOOR...

Norma and Mike Waterson's session in the Bedford..what an opportunity to gain an insight into their early days.

The "tea time" slots in the war memorial club.. for all who were not there, you missed some gems.

Strolling along the prom and enjoying the stalls... do you make the effort to talk to none folkies visiting the town for the day who are amazed how safe the environment felt? How their perception of folk had changed from their experience that day? Can't see how that would happen at Cambridge.

Taking a stroll along the Byes on the first Friday (what a beautiful aspect of Sidmouth) and seeing the people who had set deckchairs in the ford, were playing tunes and having a BBQ...what a way to start the week.

Great food at Chez Nous.. thanks...lovely crab sandwiches from the fish place... Georgies pies as good as ever, although they had obviously not understood the previous owner when he told them they would be quite busy folk week - they quickly learnt when their shelves were full on Sunday and the sign said open till midnight. A fantastic lunch at The Secret Garden and great mussels at both Dukes and Clovelly House. (The food options have definitely improved in the last 12 months).

And the lemonade... I'd kill for that recipe!!

Great Western Morris on Thursday evening.. so many good dancers when so many sides struggle to make the numbers. Which links me to the great bar staff at the lastminuuteceilidhs..thanks folks.

How often do you see a miserable ceilidh dancer? Some people just spend the whole week dancing, never missing a dance and never stopping smiling. What energy and what an array of footwear chosen specifically for dancing.


Can't wait for next year..

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 03:03 AM

Thanks to those who enjoyed the Theatre Bar singarounds - please tell the management, so we have a better chance of being able to continue next year!

Kitty

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:30 AM

what the world of folk should be about - continuity and family

Yeuk.

Some actual reading of the Socialist Worker (and Friedrich Engels) and listening to what Roy Bailey actually has to say wouldn't go amiss here. Followed by agitation for political, economic, social and personal change to dispel such vile, reactionary Thatcherite complacency. Preferably not accompanied by wishy-washy, wannabe-mainstream pop though possibly with bells on.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 05:26 AM

Ooooooooooooooooooooooer

Politics and the plight of the common man has ever been a strong thread holding the world of FOLK together - but so has Drinking, Bonking and Family Loyalties. And humour. Lighten up some of you.

We are not dogmatic narrow minded people - that is what I love about Folk - it tolerates even a shy modest poser in Red

I was told to find a camp site with shower queues less than 5 minutes and what I got in return was no seagulls and quiet. And a journey time quicker than the bus.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 05:37 AM

"Followed by agitation for political, economic, social and personal change to dispel such vile, reactionary Thatcherite complacency. Preferably not accompanied by wishy-washy, wannabe-mainstream pop though possibly with bells on."

All that is just so many Buzz Words.

We'm discussing a festival not your political point of view (to which you are entitled).

To sum up my thoughts on Folk Week 2006 I would say that not everything went as well as it could but you have to bear in mind that we are still in the early days under the current organisers.

Derek Schofield said in one of the Festival Newsletters that "The Festival didn't come with an Instruction Manual" - They are still very much on a learning curve and I wouldn't be surprised if there were changes made for next years fesival.

Dave

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 05:57 AM

just so many Buzz Words

As are 'continuity' and 'family'. But not so 'Buzzy'.
Though it appears to be what someone imagines the newfangled 'folkweek/festival' should be about.
Could it be that some of you are seeking to dumb it down into a nuclear-family-friendly, holiday-camp-stylee jolly singalong with reality firmly excluded?

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 06:10 AM

"Could it be that some of you are seeking to dumb it down"

Not in my case. What I want is week of the sort of Folkie stuf that I enjoy. I hope that is what other people want too.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John J
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 06:54 AM

Laughing, drinking and singing just about sums it up for me.

John

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 09:56 AM

Well John if thats where you spent your festival (as did I) then we are probably on the same wavelength.

Dave

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 10:08 AM

I certainly disapprove of politics and folk as a mixture.
I don't want to know how you vote, or to be lectured on how I should vote, when I go to a musical performance. That's OK for Red Wedge, but it has a self selecting audience, and it carries a label saying what it is. No sneaking in under the wire for them, Roy Bailey likewise, that's why I will never go to a Roy Bailey performance, the agenda is not solely musical.
While most folkies are apparently left wing politically, we also have Tories, and Scottish Nationalists among our ranks, I've even heard a rumour that there is at least one LibDem voter! So let's keep politics out of folk.
Giok

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: fiddler
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 10:42 AM

In the midst of all this Doom Gloom and Despondency, whilst no one can be complacent about any aspect of the festival you may like to read this: -

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Sorry if it means or looks like bowing before the autocratic authorities who run this country - or was it the democratically elected government - or really just getting on with it and trying to do a good job!

Andy

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 10:43 AM

keep politics out of folk

That's as nonsensical as trying to argue that the personal isn't political.

My objection was to the unacceptable and preposterous tenet that people should go to festivals to wallow in a blinkered cocoon of laissez-faire complacency. Trad music chronicles the economic power struggles of the workplace as well as those pertaining to all social relationships, including the family. If exposure to the stories of those who have gone before fail to inspire you not necessarily how to place your vote (though it may have an influence) but to live your own life more humanely and strive for equality, I'd say you were missing the point entirely.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: fiddler
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 10:43 AM

Sorry

http://www.devon-cornwall.police.uk/v3/news/latest/pressrelease.cfm?id=605

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 11:03 AM

Well CR that's only if you define politics in the broadest possible terms, and the upshot of going down that road is that even a fart could be deemed as a political act.
I mean of course Party Politics, which is why I mentioned political parties.
Where the poltics of farting leaves Spaw I can't imagine, but no doubt we shall find out in the fullness of time.
Giok

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 11:14 AM

So why did you mention 'party' politics? Nobody else did.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:22 PM

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: countess richard - PM
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:30 AM

what the world of folk should be about - continuity and family

Yeuk.

Some actual reading of the Socialist Worker (and Friedrich Engels) and listening to what Roy Bailey actually has to say wouldn't go amiss here. Followed by agitation for political, economic, social and personal change to dispel such vile, reactionary Thatcherite complacency. Preferably not accompanied by wishy-washy, wannabe-mainstream pop though possibly with bells on.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:28 PM

*raises hand* ooh ohh politics can I join in, can I pleeease oohh.

*Sigh* Cllr

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:30 PM

No Mike we dont need any more verbosity!!!

Dave

But we can't stop you can we?

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,Ed from Essex
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:36 PM

Back to the music!

I only got to Sidmouth for the last three days as I spent the first weekend at the Wickham Festival in Hampshire (and what a wonderful Festival that was - Seth Lakeman, Shooglenifty, Spiers & Boden, Richard Thompson, Oysterband, Steeleye Span and so many more, all in a very safe and friendly setting, maybe more relaxed than Sidmouth where the late-night lager louts in the town centre can be intimidating).

Sidmouth has obviously changed from the Mrs. Casey days. Personally I miss the International Arena shows but the sessions scene seems to be thriving - The Bedford seemed even more packed than usual (if that's possible!) and some of the Ham concerts were very good indeed.

A few old regulars seemed to be missing from Sidmouth this year (I ran into some familiar faces at Wickham) but many others were in their usual places (Hello John B!) and I found the atmosphere in the bars and on the Prom to be as good as ever, in fact, I think many of the sessions are better now than they were in days gone by.

I'll always have a soft spot for Sidmouth - I've been attending for over 20 years - and while I fully intend to return to Wickham over the first weekend of August next year I'll probably then head straight along the coast to Sidmouth - it's only a couple of hours drive between the two and I'd rather enjoy two excellent Festivals instead of just one.

Congratulations to everyone involved in keeping Sidmouth going.

You've done a great job.

Ed

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:49 PM

No, I didn't mention party politics, Giok did. I didn't mention the Socialist Worker first, somebody else did (though they seemed to think it was a person not a newspaper). Mike, of course you can join in since you are the only reasonable and sensible member of the AHEM party I've ever come across . . .

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,soc worker
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:49 PM

can I just put up my hand and say that i am the person who was selling socialist worker before the chumbawumba concert...the band were wonderful...one of the best I have seen at Sidmouth in my 12 years of attending.
You can't keep politics out of music ...if we did there would be no songs by Ewan McColl , no early Bob Dylan ,no Pete Seeger and no Paul Robeson.Without the politics of life the guts would be torn out of our music!
I also spent a lot of time in the theatre bar where the singing and the atmosphere was fantastic....and I managed a song myself ,the first time I have ever sung at Sidmouth.
Great week!!
soc worker

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,Let's hear it for the family!
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:56 PM

Hello there

I loved every minute of Sidmouth as did my family and friends. I agree totally with the poster above about the folk world having much to offer society in general, with its caring and supportive outlook.

I also agree that political songs are important.

I totally disagree with the obnoxious comments about families from that 'richard' bloke who obviously doesn't know his ARSS from his elbow when it comes to knowing what's important in life. Obviously he must have come from a very unhappy family or had some terrible experience to sound so bitter.

Many of the problems in this country might not be there if the family unit was supported and respected. Children need families, but of course, families are strong units, and far more difficult for the ones who want to control the populatin to infiltrate.

Sidmouth is very much about families and long may it continue. A lovely festival all round.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:06 PM

I'm not a bloke. See Child #68.

The family a safe and secure unit? Ever listened to Lucy Wan, Fair Annie, Prince Heathen, Two Sisters, The Brown Girl . . . and innumerable other tales of incest, rape, murder and any other form of repression and abuse you can imagine so prevalent in 'families' through the ages.

Are you related to 'lizziecornish'? She has highly distorted and unrealistic views on this subject too.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: MBSLynne
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:19 PM

Hmmm...time to leave this thread. Now that Countess R has joined it it will become increasingly unpleasant, vitriolic and downright nasty. No more constructive comment will be possible.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:33 PM

As I never go anywhere near the pub in which the last poster lurks throughout the festival, can I point out that she has absolutely no idea who I am nor what I do and is thus disqualified to comment.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:33 PM

There is a general confusion between songs which document, and/or highlight social deprivation or mistreatment, and politics. These songs are what they are, just songs, they are not political statements. Once again we have this broad brush definition of politics.
Anyway, this is thread creep, so I will say no more on the subject.
Giok

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:47 PM

john J are you the same john J from altrincham who is qouted in the sidmouth herald today? if so well done!

Middlebar singers have been in the last three issues of the sidmouth herald on such topics such as singing in the sea and the fact that we raised 1361.15p for the sidmouth lifeboat on the tuesday night shanty sesion. I thought we had a great week. I persoanally had a fantastic time. My heart felt thanks to those that help organise the folk festival.

Cllr

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:50 PM

Countess Richard,

MBSLynne is a friend of mine and has been attending Sidmouth for more that 20 years. If that does not qualify her for stating her feelings I don't know what does.

Cllr is also a friend so I hope my post to him will be seen for what it was intended to be (A joke if you can't see that).

If you are going to hi-jack the thread, for whatever reason, I shall leave too.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:59 PM

I once sang leon rosselsons "world turned upside down" at the sillier song session in the MBS half the audince who didnt know me looked puzzled as to why the song was being featured in this particular session the other half who did know me, and my politics,collapsed into
small heaps aound the bar. There are three morals to this story
1) there is a place for politics in folk
2) it helps to understand not only what you yourself are on about but also what the other person is on about too (if your going to get the joke)
3) that im trying to change the subject...

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 02:01 PM

before i argue with someone I like to walk a mile in their shoes.
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that way if they get angry with me, they are a mile away and barefoot.
Cllr

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 02:08 PM

Giving up and going down the pub!!

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 02:10 PM

Don't know this Breton Cap either, probably because I never go near the Anchor. And he and his mate Lynne never come anywhere near where I am. They don't know me. None of which gives them or anyone else even the vaguest justification for seeking to prevent me from rubbishing someone else's sanctimonious and wholly erroneous preaching about festivals being for 'families' (as though this form of social living arrangement gained extra brownie points) and that all was well with the world (ha!) and that no agitation for social change through music was needed.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 03:01 PM

I once sang leon rosselsons "world turned upside down" at the sillier song session

This is an excellent example of why I steer well clear of the Anchor Middle Bar. A song about the struggle for and suppression of basic human rights is not a joke. The Diggers were an important historical movement and their aims of social justice are not aligned to any particular political party. It would behove those who snigger to do a minimal amont of basic research.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: mikefromdorch
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 03:11 PM

Is there really doubt about the Theatre bar sessions next year, Kitty? Is it the Festival management or the Manor management who are the problem? Who do we write to?
Perhaps more of you should have eaten Lynne's home-cooked pies there - the best food I had all week

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 03:12 PM

You obviously don't get the joke, and BTW I do wonder if you have a sense of humour at all, everything in your life seems to be so black and white.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 03:54 PM

When i was running uxbridge folk club I booked leon rosselson on a number of occasions. I asked if he minded if i sang it,he didnt -which goes to show at least leon has a sense of humor if you dont on this particular matter. I have sang it many times as it is a cracking song. the point of the post, which you seemed to have missed, is that something taken out of context can be taken differntly dependoing of the view point of the individual and there are more views than just yours which are equally deserving of respect.

robb Johnson, a singer songer writer you have said you have liked in other threads, is a friend of mine as well not only have I sung his songs in the middle bar in fact he came down and sang his own songs in the middle bar when he was booked at sidmouth folk festival. if its good enough for him...

but i digress, aside from you having no sense of humour on the subject of revolutionary songs or knowledge of a particular session,you should know better than to accuse me of not knowing my subject,i have, albeit immodestly, mentioned before my first degree is in Politcs and modern history. one module (12 week course)was Skocpols theory of revolutions, which while concentrating of french chinese and russion revolutions other academics uses the english revolution and groups such as the diggers to criticise her arguments which i made extensive reading when refuting her theory.

I dont mind the fact that you are passionate about your own views but it is a bit ironic IMHO that you dont want to allow others to have theirs if they disagree with you

and to get back to the point of this thread i thought sidmnouth was great this year. Mike

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:20 PM

When did I ever say you couldn't sing any song you damn well like, Mike? Especially in a session I'm never at? Or accuse you of not knowing your subject? The latter, as you well know, was addressed at others. What I did say is that I fail to see why anyone would consider it appropriate to introduce a sing about the Diggers into a session supposed to be about silly songs. Because it isn't one. But from what I've heard, the Middle Bar has a tendency to take the piss out of all sorts of material which I am unlikely to find the slightest bit funny. This does not mean I wouldn't be amused by songs that had been written as comic songs, of which Leon Rosselson and Robb Johnson have composed many. But it does explain why I am scarcely likely to turn up in the Anchor, regardless of whether Robb Johnson does or not.

As for not allowing others to have views which differ from mine, I will always as a matter of principle oppose those who spew smug, sanctimonious claptrap designed to denigrate those whose lifestyles differ from their own. You, presumably, do the same.

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Chris Cole
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:32 PM

Pay no attention folks, it is only what I expected. Diane was simply lurking until I said something. Water off a ducks back to me and I won't be intimidated into holding my tongue or anything else for that matter. Thanks for supportive comments

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:33 PM

I am back from the pub and find this:-

"denigrate those whose lifestyles differ from their own"

So it's alright for you to do this but if anyone dare have a view different from you and states it they get all sorts of grief from you don't they?

And as for not frequenting the same venues as you. If you don't know who I am how do you know?

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: melodeonboy
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:37 PM

Mmmm... It appears that what MBSLynne predicted in her previous message has come true!

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:44 PM

Ummmm....wasn't it a lovely festival?

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:47 PM

Thank you for that and i was trying to answer the point of yours about people sniggering- they werent sniggering at the song but at the fact i was singing it (a serious song) in a sillier song session. the context is all.

i get to many different types of session and the quality of it depends on the singers, the organisers, the venue, and the expectations of those present( sorry i should be handing white sticks for saying the blindingly obvious at this point)

The sessions at the anchor vary wildely, the only specific is that it is open to any walking past to join in and it is unacompanied with manly chorus songs.

You, obviously, dont have to attend if you dont want too your choice but criticising it with out going there is a bit like saying you dont like opera without ever having been to see it live. ( i use the last as an example because when i was much younger thats what i thought till i got dragged, kicking and screaming to see turandot at the ROH)

When i disagree with someone i do my upmost to stay away from personal comments but to argue against the ideas expressed that i disagree with/ some arguments i win some i lose and sometimes i even change my mind but i really do try to avoid name calling and that is something that happens all to often in some of the threads on mudcat.

This thread is primarily about the joys of sidmouth festival and they are many and varied. if it was all about one sort of event it would be like a cajun gumbo with one ingrediant and what fun would that be?

i hope this analogy wont be taken and over stretched so I am now going to apck for the next festival WHff which i hope to get to by lunch time tommorow. Wassail Cllr

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:48 PM

Ummmm....wasn't it a lovely festival?

Yes but someone around here doesn't think we should enjoy anything other than what she thinks we should!

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:50 PM

yes it was briliant joanie crumpet.

breton cap you looking at me? when do i ever get verbose I dont thi....(cont page 94) Cllr

Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:50 PM

400 hundred yeah! Cllr