BS: Is the Rapture Underway???

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: the one
Date: 09 Aug 06 - 03:46 AM

and the fish will laugh as they swim out of the path.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Aug 06 - 08:49 AM

The fish aren't going? What about dogs? I'm not sure I want to go if dogs don't get to go. Oh, wait, I'm not at all sure I'm going anyway. Nevermind.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Mooh
Date: 09 Aug 06 - 06:44 PM

No fish and no dogs?! Count me out!

(I tried to interest Rosie and Cosmo in this thread but they're busy chasing flies.)

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Aug 06 - 09:10 PM

If I do happen to get raptured, can I go hunting and fishing when I get there? Will there, contrary to the song, be some good beer and some good Chicago-style hot dogs?

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Mooh
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 06:15 AM

There better be blues and folk too, or I ain't gettin' on the bus.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: the one
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 07:50 AM

AND THE SEAGULLS WILL BE A SMILING.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,neovo
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:23 AM

"I mean, fir gosh sakes, he was a tax collector, right???"

Wrong - St Paul was a tent maker.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:29 AM

Thought that was Omar

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: the one
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:35 AM

and the rocks on the sand will proudly stand thee hour that the ship comes in.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:20 PM

"...and the fishes will laugh..."

Which reminds me. Did Noah take fish on the Ark, and if so, why?

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 07:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ILGp3JGCQ

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 08:54 AM

A reporter taken up in the Rapture? No way.......

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 10:28 AM

There's never been any indication whatsoever by anyone that Noah took fish onto the Ark... ;-) Or whales either, for that matter.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 11:25 AM

Good skeet shooting! Can't wait!

How about alligators? Did Noah take alligators? And frogs? How about sea snakes?

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 11:27 AM

This thread would be a lot more interesting if were "Is the Rapture Underwear?", which is how I first read the title.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 11:58 AM

Just re-read the whole thread... those were fine days!

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 01:19 PM

It could explain the disappearance of one of our Dachshunds...he was a rather saintly dog, as dogs go.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 06:02 PM

the word "rapture" is not in the bible but the teaching is.
it is most prominent in pauls writings,but i think alluded to elsewhere.
i believe that i shall be "caught up" but that is not a case of pride,as someone earlier suggested.christian teaching rather is that it is only by the undeserved favour of God that repentant sinners are saved.pride,is more likely the condition of unrepentant and rebellious people who think they dont need the forgiveness of God.
as to not knowing the timing of the second coming- assuming the rapture occurs before the great tribulation [the view i favour,without being dogmatic],it is true that the first part of that coming is of unknown date,whereas for those left behind may be expecting the second part in appx 7 yrs.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Jack Sprocket
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 06:47 PM

Come on Pete, the Rapture has already happened and you lost out.

Jesus said, turn the other cheek.

Those who followed his advice were killed- that's what happens to the principled non- resisting. They are martyrs, and will dwell in Paradise forever. That IS the rapture. And it didn't happen to you, you are always looking for evil in the others and not in yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 07:21 PM

Most of the principled resisting have gotten killed too, Jack, throughout history. To hold to principle in the face of corrupt social hierarchies is an extremely hazardous business. If you turn the other cheek, they'll usually kill you. If you strike them on their cheek, they'll usually kill you. The vital thing is to hold to principle, however, and to risk the consequences regardless.

Also, not all the people who followed Jesus' advice got killed, but certainly a great many of them did, just as happens with freedom fighters of any variety.

The most probable meaning of "to turn the other cheek" in the context it was given (as a parable) is: to return positive thinking in the face of negative thinking, forgiveness in the face of unforgiveness, tolerance in the face of intolerance, kindness in the face of cruelty, reason in the face of unreason. To thereby reverse the intentional energy wave rather than copying and amplifying it with the same negative reaction.

Do this in a water tank with actual waves, send a reverse wave of similar amplitude at an oncomng wave and you'll see what will happen. The 2 waves will cancel each other out, and the water will go calm and smooth. That's what Jesus was advising for human relations on a spiritual level, I think, and it does work far better than simply amplifying the first wave by imitating it...which is what people commonly tend to do. Someone "hits" them...they "hit" back...the situation gets worse.

Obviously, this does not apply to an absolutely necessary physical fight...and there are cases where it is necessary in defense...but it does apply to human relations in the sense of one's intention and attitude toward others.

Jesus was not counseling people on how to engage in physical fights when he spoke that parable. He was counselling them on how to handle their inner intentions, consciousness, and attitude.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Jun 13 - 07:26 PM

"the word "rapture" is not in the bible but the teaching is."

The closest thing in the Bible to the contemporary concept of the rapture is the picture of Christians being caught up to meet Jesus in the air as he is coming down at his return. The rest of the Dispensationalist calendar is put together by picking odds and ends of Bible quotes which in contest refer to an assortment of things, and arranging them on a structure constructed totally independently from the Bible. Put of any the verses used to support the doctrince back into context, and they lose all relevance to the alleged rapture-tribulation-final return sequence of the "left behind" scenerio.

I suspect that if Dispensationalism hadn't been popularized by the notes in the Schofield Bible, Mary Margaret MacDonald and Darby would be largely forgotten, and Dispensationalists would be very rare or have totally faded away.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:00 AM

frogprince: "I suspect that if Dispensationalism hadn't been popularized by the notes in the Schofield Bible, Mary Margaret MacDonald and Darby would be largely forgotten, and Dispensationalists would be very rare or have totally faded away."

True.

Pete: "the word "rapture" is not in the bible..."

True.

Pete, I suggest you take a GOOD look at the 1 Corinthians 15:52 verse, that you are referring to..and see how it ends.....when the event is supposed to occur...it says, '...at the LAST trump'..now go to revelations and read EVERYTHING that happens BEFORE the LAST trump.

The 'post trib' guys don't have it 'right' either....there is NO post trib Rapture....what is being described in 1 Corinthians 15:52, is a Resurrection...as it describes.
The pre-trib rapture people, falsely believe that Jesus is going to come back and save their skins....no so...Read Matt 24:13..and also Mark 13:13...which you can already see in here.
Besides, it's NOT about 'saving our skins' as much as incarnating the soul, that has the Spirit in it.
That happens to be FAR more accurate to the texts.

Regards,

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:24 AM

I sort of wonder, Pete, how you view the strong **belief** of Muslim suicide bombers that by doing damage to the infidels, they will go immediately to 'Paradise'. It is obviously easy for people in various cultures to come to 'interesting' conclusions if they carelessly interpret the basic tenets of their religion.

(no time to properly start that other thread yet.)

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:28 AM

Well, they were told that by some authority figure whom they trusted. That's what usually starts all these problems. People don't think for themselves, but let someone else do it for them. The whole purpose of military training, for example, is to make people stop thinking for themselves and just dutifully obey orders...and you can easily see what horrors that has led to, time and again.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:36 AM

Bill Maher asked the other night if his guest knew how Noah got all of the thousands of species of insects in pairs and kept them fucking regularly without drastically increasing their numbers.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 12:01 PM

So this is what Bill Maher lies awake at night worrying about? ;-)

It's probably a very ancient legend, one that predates both the Jewish and the Christian religions, and it probably refers to some actual natural disaster which affected many people at least over a wide region, if not over the whole planet. In such a case some people would have prepared for it and managed to survive it. In doing so, they would certainly try to save some useful animals and plants...we would do the same now if we were expecting a planetary catastrophe to occur...our governments and scientists would attempt to save as much of our present ecosystem and culture as they could.

If very few people survived a disaster, then there'd be a long, slow period of recovery and repopulation afterward, and people would tell stories about what had happened. The stories would get embellished, and at the same time simpler, and then they would turn into legends and morality tales in order to make a point.

Thousands or tens of thousands of years later some dork on a talk show would bring up inane questions about insects fucking, and think himself quite clever.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 12:13 PM

Bill D: "sort of wonder, Pete, how you view the strong **belief** of Muslim suicide bombers that by doing damage to the infidels, they will go immediately to 'Paradise'."

..and then the get 72 virgins, too..but 72 really isn't that much, considering that it's got to last them for 'all eternity'...and who knows, they might be 72 old spinsters....or even even the wrong sex..or very ugly. Methinks somebody, who ever came up with that one, wasn't thinking it through very well. Plus, those who blow themselves up...there might not be much left to 'enjoy' the 72 old biddies!

Aw..the delusion of it all!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 12:46 PM

Anybody who has lived through ravaging hurricane can tell you how horrible it smells afterwards from all the death. A world-wide flood would simply be unsurviveable FOR ANYONE. No bullshit story about an ark that some Jewish asshole writer stole from the Greeks who stole it from the Babylonians who stole from who knows where changes anything. It's a bullshit story from a bullshit book compiled by a bullshit religion. And the Rupture? Get real, more bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 12:49 PM

Ho hum. There were people like you around 20,000 years ago too, and all they thought about was busting heads.

People can survive just about anything. We're very tenacious creatures.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Musket sans being saved
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 02:32 PM

I might just cut and paste this whole thread into the atheist belief thread and rest my case... Not that I would of course, some think I like the attention and yeah, you're right.

My only contribution can be that whenever I see the word rapture, it reminds me of Spike Milligan ;

Deep in my guts I have a rupture
But for that dear,
I'd have upped yer.

In the meantime, I love pete's logic. He doesn't have pride because that is a sin and as he thinks he is going to be saved in the rapture, he isn't proud of his salvation.

But he feels superior to the rest of us. If he didn't, he wouldn't think he is going to be saved.

Then I am berated in other threads for not respecting the views of those professing the silly end of faith?

Beer.

Now.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 02:55 PM

Actually, the story of a flood appears almost in EVERY ancient culture around the world...even the Mayans...but who wants to labor it?
Sounds like another wannabe political activist, having their knickers in a twist with no talcum powder...such a big deal, over a little chafing, huh?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Musket typing randomly
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 03:21 PM

Oh, forgot to mention. If anyone wants their cat looking after them when they go up (no self respecting God would forgive a moggy) I can arrange to look after it for a large sum.

Send your cat to the good professor at the usual address.

Also, if anyone wishes to have their greyhound exercised alongside the good professor, we expect a delivery of exercise equipment soon.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 03:46 PM

Any body that posts with complete anononimity,and feels the need for vulgar attacks on others belief hardly warrents an answer so the following is in respect of those posting after.
as already noted,there are stories of a worldwide flood - worldwide!.
often there are similarities to the biblical version.
as also suggested,they could all be fabricated tales based on a more local disaster.
alternately ,there could be an original true account from which corrupted versions spread out.
you probably guessed that i posit genesis as the original.i believe the bible is Gods word and trustworthy,but realize that others will need much more to even consider that.
i suggest that in comparison of ancient texts,genesis comes out on top.for example,the babylonian describes a sqaure box where-as the box like biblical ark is of a size and dimensions for optimal stability in the worst of seas.
a careful reading reveals disembarkment after the waters had abated .this was confirmed by the first bird returning with a leaf and the 2nd not returning.
this is in line with more recent observation of devastated landscapes recovering faster than would have been thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 04:08 PM

No point in trying to have an intelligent discussion with a supernaturalist.

Now, a musical interlude from Stevie Wonder...

When you believe in things
You don't understand
Then you suffer.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 04:09 PM

gfs- i did say that i was not dogmatic as to the details and you make some good points.at one time i would have agreed with your posited timeline/order of events.under the pre-trib view,those enduring unto the end would be those that became believers after the rapture.it is not hard to imagine that many will put 2 and 2 together when they cant find most of their christian friends and family.
but as i say i am not dogmatic on this as admittedly the teaching is spread over a number of texts.

bill-i suppose i would say that islamist suicide bombers are deluded.
atheists might say i am deluded,but hopefully you would not lump my lovingly seeking to share my faith together with suicide bombers killing themselves and others in the hope of a bevy of beauties awaiting them in paradise.
regards both    pete.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Ian Mather
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 06:33 PM

Here is my vulgar attack.

You are round the bend, and saying Christianity has a moral high ground over Islam, you are deluded at the subjective as well as the objective end of the market. Suicide bombers are not a feature of faith, they are an example of how faith can be manipulated. Dangerous thing faith, it can even have you believing the most amazing bollocks...

Musket thinks you are too, if it helps.

The good professor reserves judgement, but he was born in kennels in Ireland so faith is as inbred as his breed, as it were....

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Janie
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 06:49 PM

I dunno. I think Garrison Keller reported on the rapture back in 2004, so that proves it it has already happened and just us poor saps are left behind. It was tough, deciding whether to become an Episcopalian or a Unitarian. Appears I made the wrong choice.
Click on "listen" when you get to the link.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 07:13 PM

Pete is misinterpreting scripture, which is clearly describing the mass abduction of earthlings by superior beings from another planet/glaxy.

Bound to happen sooner or later.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 09:18 PM

That grown people would actually believe in fairy tales and put down others for not doing so is not only incredibly arrogant but the height of stupidity. The bible is not a history, it is a book of fairy tales. It doesn't read like a history, it is not verifiable as a history. It reads like a bunch of fairy tales and is verifiable as a bunch of fairy tales.

And personally, I think the Brothers Grimm kick the bible's sorry ass. As do the Arabian Nights.

Get ready, everybody, Rapunzel is going to let down her golden locks any day now and THEN you'll be sorry!

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 10:07 PM

"...but hopefully you would not lump my lovingly seeking to share my faith together with suicide bombers ..."

Pete... it is not about how nice & pretty YOUR faith is, compared to THEIR faith. It is about the sound basis on which anyone accepts ANY scriptural guide as authoritative. That is why it is called faith/belief. If God (and Muslims claim they worship the same 'god' as Christians, but have different prophets/messiahs) is 'all-powerful' and wants a specific truth to be clear to everyone, I would think he/she/it could clarify it to ALL, and end this doubt and guessing and killing!
Granting humans the mind to understand & analyze, yet allowing pain & suffering & discord & confusion does not fit MY idea of an omnipotent Being.

We have a lot of historical evidence as to why humans created religious stories to explain their wonder about Being... and when we thought the Earth was flat & was the center of the universe because we had no FACTS, it was understandable so many different religions developed so many different stories....including guesses about what would happen "at the end". The 'rapture' is just one guess among many. The reason so many...even myself... dispute your stance is that your current 'belief' refuses to treat new discoveries in science as useful unless you can make them fit your interpretation of one scripture among many.
   Some treat you as if you are 'having me on' and 'taking the piss' (not phrases I use in the US...but I get the point.) I have no doubt you are honest & serious... but I also see many problems with the system that thinks like that.... and I really worry about what would happen IF your system gained wide acceptance. Sorry...but that's how it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:54 PM

The only difference between Christianity and Islam is the latter uses suicide bombers and the former bomb abortion clinics but unfortunately don't blow themselves up with them.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 01:15 AM

...and 'Guest' feels so strongly about it, that he doesn't post a name.

GfS

P.S. Joe, is that you?..(not Offer)..let me know.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 01:33 AM

I think the Rapture may actually be underway as a covert operationII Those who believe are secretly being slipped up to Jesus but their mortal shells are being left behind, operating on a low autonomic and reactive level, a mindless zombie simulacrum of a human being. This really explains to me why so many politicians who do and say really stupid and thoughtless things are showing up, especially on the right. They are not the real occupants! They're just leftovers!! Zombie shells!! The entire STate of Texas is half depleted of human souls, all of whom have been Elevated as a reward for their constancy in Faith, leaving behind barely operational portals of pure idiocy, bereft of spirit or living attention.

This is the FIRST explanation I have heard that makes any sense at all, and it even explains Rick Perry!

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 01:53 AM

Many Christians do NOT think of the greater part of the Bible as history, aside from some stuff about various military campaigns and kings of the Israelites and some specific incidents in Jesus' life...they they of it primarily as allegory, as spiritual parables, with the purpose being to clarify spiritual concepts such as forgiveness, redemption, kindness, brotherhood, honesty, etc. There are also many Christians who do not believe by any means that every single world in the Bible is the literal word of God, but that it's a collection of varied ancient writings with considerable spiritual significance, written by a very large variety of people, some of whom got most of what they said right, some of whom got part of what they said right, some of whom got part of what they said wrong, some of whom were caught up in contemporary political stuff that badly twisted what they said.

There are a vast number of different viewpoints on this among Christians, but this is overlooked by people who would prefer Christians to all just be literal fundamentalists, just because that makes them easier to denigrate and ridicule if you happen to want to denigrate and ridicule them.

This variety of differing viewpoints is also true of Muslims. They're not all literal-minded fundamentalists either. There are genuine progressives and mystics in both religions who do not believe the fundamentalist stuff that the anti-religionists are so fond of deriding.

It's easier, if you already have a deep and abiding prejudice, to just insist that everyone you're prejudiced against shares a simple set of easy-to-attack absurdities...but in doing so, all you're doing is some very lazy thinking and wish-fulfillment...kind of like Hitler did, for example, with regard to Jews....or like the Inquisition did with regard to the wretched and innocent people they accused of witchcraft. You're engaging in a modern witchhunt of your own choosing, not any kind of fair attempt to understand a viewpoint other than your own.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 03:57 AM

...and then there are those, who get a major "Hello!" in the form of an unseen club on your head..if, or when that happens...PAY FUCKING ATTENTION!

Why not?...You'd be a complete moronic oxygen thief not to!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Musket sans knowledge of stories
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 04:15 AM

On a practical note, how will Christians get there and where precisely is "there."

Our knowledge of the universe to date puts the observable world out of the running and alternative realities might be as good or bad as this one, although if they exist I assume quite a few don't fuck with people's heads like our phenomenon called religion.

Have they organised buses? Airbus A380 fleets? Getting Scotty to beam them up?

What about people who live good lives, help others and try to be the good guys but are too intelligent to believe in fairy stories? Do they get a ride?




Perhaps not. More beer and pickled eggs for the rest of us. Hey, did you know? This holiday is in a town so posh they genuinely sell pickled quail eggs. All the philosophy you ever need in that fact.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 04:36 AM

Nope nope nope.....That's dumb...this is not a matter or organizing thoughts into some sort of concept, or even thinking of it as 'a religion'....you can't reach the spiritual through constructing a concept of 'righteousness' self, or other wise.....this is different...it hits YOU...on ITS terms..has nothing to do if you approve or not...different rules, properties and 'physics'. When it happens, you KNOW it...nobody 'talks you into it'..it's actually, too personal to be named!............Just when it happens, pay attention...if it doesn't, try not to hate those who have had it.
Called 'diversity'??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,Musket sans Ian
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 05:58 AM

My dear Goofus.

Pickled quail eggs represent all the diversity we ever need.

This side of the pond any road.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 10:07 AM

There was a time when I tried to live and let live. But the Christians--you give them an inch and they just HAVE to take a mile. There was a time when I thought the militant atheists were arrogant and spouting off too much. But I was wrong. And I have HAD IT! This is war now. This is war.

And spare me your bullshit about all the great Christian, Islamic and Jewish mystics and progressives. They are nothing more than the fertile field from which the next round of fanatics will sprout. I'm sure there are neo-Nazis and KKK people who decry violence but that doesn't change who and what they fundamentally are. Among their children, sooner or later, will arise the next crop of fanatics saying their parents were too lax, too open to change, not Christian/Islamic/Jewish enough. Fanatical rightwing conservatism is kept alive in this country by Christianity--period. If you are part of that cult then you are part of that problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Is the Rapture Underway???
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 30 Jun 13 - 11:48 AM

well bill- if a muslim wanted to discuss with me why he thought his religion was superiour i would be quite happy to talk things out with him. and just to be clear,in light of some peoples suggestions,i would not think that he was in league with militant extremists.
you seem to be representing other faiths by proxy,while subscibing to none other than atheism.yet despite this you chide me for not believing in YOUR idea of God!.this does not seem a very reasonable position.
i am in no position to discuss the merits of other faiths, although as i believe in the bible and that does indicate the falseness of all other gods,i will not grant other faiths the same validity.that being said ,christian faith should not be enforced on others.and respect should be shown between diverse persuasions.
there are some other points i would ask you to clarify.
1/which scientific discoveries am i and other creationists avoiding.
2/when did we think the earth was flat[other than a few flat earthers]
3/i understood that most cosmology does now see earth as near the centre of the universe [but am open to correction]?
4/what dangers do you see if biblical christianity were widely accepted. i have heard that when revival hit wales over a century ago they did have one problem - the pit ponys did not obey immediately due to the absense of swearing at them!.i hear the crime rate was drastically reduced so the police had less to do.