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Subject: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Bobert Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:13 PM Well, seems that I have this place in my equipement barn where these small pellet like things jus' tend to accumulate on the floor... I sweep it clean and in no time there is another pile of it on the floor??? The only thing I can figfure is that maybe there's a bat that hangs up there in the rafters somewhere... Now I know that Spawzer is the dung=man here but, hey, maybe even he isn't familiar with the droppings of bats but maybe some cattter/spelunker is... So my qustion is this... What does bat dung look like??? And yes, I'm pefectly serious... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: bobad Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:17 PM Bat crap www.biokids.umich.edu/guides/signs/scat.html link repaired.......Mudelf |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:18 PM Bat dung--from brown bats. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Divis Sweeney Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:20 PM Their droppings are called guano. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:25 PM Hey, make me a pellet on your floor . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Bobert Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:26 PM Cowabunga!!! Yes, yes, yes!!! Thank you, Lord... I've read that this sh*t is some fine fertilizer and it's gonna get a test... Yep, that's it fir sure... and I got me a pile of it!!! Holy Toledo!!! Look out fall beans... Guano is a' comin'.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Divis Sweeney Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:26 PM Looks like the dry ingredients in our local Asian food store ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:29 PM "ARE YOU EXPOSING YOURSELF TO HISTOPLASMOSIS?" from http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:3ShNseDdyyIJ:wasg.iinet.net.au/histo.html+bat+guano,+disease&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: GUEST,Rapaire Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:31 PM And you can use it to make your own saltpeter for either the mashed potatoes or for making your own gunpowder. Bats are our friends. They eat lots of insects and do NOT entangle themselves in women's hair. If rabid they exhibit the usual symptoms of rabies in wild animals. (There's lots of information about rabies in bats and bats in general here. ) You might consider wearing a dust mask when sweeping up.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:32 PM Well shitfire Bobertz, whatcha' need to do is sell it. If you find some folks wanting to attract bats to their recently acquired "bat house," they will need a supply of guano. No shit! well, it is shit but it's no shit that they need shit. Can you figger that shit out? I ain't shittin' you about needing batshit to attract bats......and people WILL pay for it! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: GUEST,frogprince, o Martha's Vinyard Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:42 PM We had these little black-rice turds in a corner of our porch for years, and I always figured it was mice, but there was no sign of mouse damage. Finally a buddy clued me in. A couple of days later we found a dead bat on the porch. I'm farm-raised, and I know some shit, but I didn't know bat shit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Rapparee Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:44 PM Bat shit is what Batman does in the bat room. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Ebbie Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:50 PM Question: What does snake scat look like? It has never occurred to me to look. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: GUEST,frogprince Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:50 PM By the way, how do you get them to abandon a spot where they're unwelcome? If you put a bathouse nearby, will they opt for that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Bobert Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:52 PM Great, Spawzer... I cut you in fir half if you find the buyers... Looks like a gota pound or two of it right now and it some some good sh*t an' ain't got no histolasnosis in it 'cause it's fallin' on a dry floor... Heck, maybe I could just put a plastic tashe can were it's at and then alll I'd have to do is scoop it out, bag it up an' send it to yer buyers... Yazzir... In a couple years we be sittin' down in the Carribian unner some coconut tree lightin' joints wid hundred dollar bills... Yazzir... But until you get them buyers line up, think I'll put some on my fall bean crop... Okay wid you??? Guana-bert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 08:54 PM "Question: What does snake scat look like?" Here ya go Ebbie. Be very scared. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:00 PM Droppings from an anaconda that ate a Volkswagen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Rapparee Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:04 PM Feel sorry for that first snake...gives a whole new meaning to "pushing a pen." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:12 PM More snake dung. VIEWER ALERT: Please notice the complete absence of humans in this photo. Be VERY afraid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: GUEST,Rapaire Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:20 PM Ever wonder about dinosaur poop? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: bobad Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:21 PM No, not really. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:28 PM Jaysus--that's looks lots like Shatner's kidney stone, Rapaire. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: GUEST,Rapaire Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:40 PM My brother, the rock polisher, tells me that coprolite (fossilized dinosaur dung) polishes up very nicely and makes lovely cufflinks, among other things. Perhaps Shatner's kidney stone would work as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:42 PM T'would also make an attractive pendant for that special someone who has 'everything'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Ebbie Date: 08 Aug 06 - 09:51 PM Peace, you is a funny man. Next question: What is the difference size-wize between a garter snake's scat and that of a python? (Thanks for the laugh about the VW parts, Peace.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 08 Aug 06 - 10:04 PM "What is the difference size-wize between a garter snake's scat and that of a python?" THAT is an excellent question. A python getting ready to eat din-dins. A garter snake getting ready to BE din-dins . . . . A guess--flat-out guess: The python will have a morning constitutional that would defy the imagination. The kid will eat the garter snake and puke. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Aug 06 - 10:52 PM Okay, folks, I skipped straight to the bottom once the guano was identified as coming from bats. Sorry if this is repetition, but it bears repeating. I didn't click on Bruce's link, but Bobert, do you know what histoplasmosis is? It's a nasty lung infection that involves a cough and a fever and it lasts for weeks and weeks. My ex caught it when he was cleaning up a dead bat in Mammoth Cave where he was a park naturalist. The dust he stirred up was enough to infect his lungs. It is endemic in the cave country so the doctor he saw wouldn't qualify him for workman's comp, but we all knew how he got it. He missed something like 6-8 weeks of work and was feeling puny for quite a while after that, and took the first job offer that came along after that just to get out of Kaintuck and away from the caves. (And that's how I goddamned ended up in Texas, folks!) You catch histo from bird and bat droppings, primarily. You may have had a mild case at some time in the past, depending on where you live, and may have built up immunity. But if you haven't, check around and find out about it. SRS--taking this question very seriously. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Helen Date: 08 Aug 06 - 10:56 PM Rapaire, maybe I'd better not tell the joke that has the following phrases in it: "constipated mathematician" "worked it out with a pencil". Yes, best to leave that one alone, eh? Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Sorcha Date: 08 Aug 06 - 11:01 PM Well....technically 'guano' is bird poop, but bat poop is guano too And Bobert...this is some HOT SHIT.....let it cool out and mellow a while before using for fertilizer or you will burn the CRAP out of your plants and soil. Really. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Aug 06 - 09:02 AM Yeah. Keep it in big bins and pour old urine over it. Let it work, and stir it every so often. When it's well fermenting, let it dry and then wash it. Carefully pour off the wash water, discarding the sludge. Evaporate and save the white crystals -- that's potassium nitrate and is used in making your own gunpowder! Yes! You can make your own fireworks! All you have to do is put up with all those complaints from the neighbors and your spouse and the Health Department and the EPA and all those sorts of nay-sayers and partypoopers. Of course, there is also a teeny-weeny bit more to it than I just described. I do suggest that you keep your house UPWIND from the tanks, though. (You can also toss in night soil, the stuff from old barns and corrals and cattle yards, just all kinds of shit!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: JennyO Date: 09 Aug 06 - 09:36 AM Bobert, you might need one of these to take your bat guano away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Aug 06 - 10:37 AM He could save himself a few steps by mining the dirt in any old cave nearby. It probably has lots of it distilled down. But it also has that histo threat. Bobert, are you [cough cough] listening? BTW, despite the stupid Google ads for repelling bats, they're very important in the environment, particularly in bug removal and pollination. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Les from Hull Date: 09 Aug 06 - 12:24 PM Colonel 'Bat' Guano was one of the characters in the excellent film 'Dr Stangelove - or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb'! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: vectis Date: 09 Aug 06 - 12:35 PM Bat shit is one of the best fertalisers fo pot plants you can get. Let it dry and sit for a while before you use it though it's really hot stuff when it's new. Over here in the UK it used to be sold occasionally in little packets as houseplant fertaliser. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: JennyO Date: 09 Aug 06 - 12:51 PM a favourite expression (around here in Oz at least) is "as boring as batshit". Now why should batshit be boring? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 09 Aug 06 - 04:36 PM The topic of bat guano was very much popularized by Batman and Robin. I am sure I heard Robin exclaim, "Holy flying bat shit." I may have misheard, but I think not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Kaleea Date: 09 Aug 06 - 06:03 PM Holy turdbuttons, Batman, don't those 'Catters have fascinatin' topics of conversation? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Mr Fox Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:29 AM Be afraid. Be very afraid.............. Recently (January 2006) Scientists from the IRD and the CIRMF detected specific Ebola virus antibodies in the serum of three species of tropical fruit bats and revealed the presence of viral genome fragments in the liver and spleen of these bats. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:45 AM A google of bats, ebola virus Sometimes, ya know . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Mr Fox Date: 10 Aug 06 - 11:50 AM Well, somebody had already mentioned rabies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Rapparee Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:18 PM AND histoplasmosis. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:53 PM I wonder whether the ebola virus would be carried by the dung beetle. Anyone know? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Mr Fox Date: 11 Aug 06 - 05:46 AM Googling 'ebola virus' and 'vectors', I found this:- Monkeys are known to be both victims (die of) of and short-term vectors (carry the disease for a while) for Ebola. Bats have also been recently discovered as a limited potential vector. Other vectors are unknown as yet, and it is highly unlikely that Monkeys are the long-term vectors for Ebola because they die from it as quickly as humans. Recently (January 2006) Scientists from the IRD and the CIRMF detected specific Ebola virus antibodies in the serum of three species of tropical fruit bats and revealed the presence of viral genome fragments in the liver and spleen of these bats. This discovery should not be confused with finding the reservoir or vector of Ebola - this simply indicates that it is possible that Ebola infected bats could survive and transmit the virus to primates. This does not indicate that bats are the natural reservoir, just that it is a possibility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: open mike Date: 11 Aug 06 - 12:37 PM now, you leave my little beetle friends out of this... many organisms require warm blooded hosts and are not likely to survive in insects. I believe the adult dung beetle does not eat dung, just lays eggs in it and rolls it. Cowboys knew about this, which is why they were always singing "rollin', rollin', rollin'..." the larvae eat it, though. there are however some diseases transmitted by insects http://insectzoo.msstate.edu/Students/basic.harm.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: dick greenhaus Date: 11 Aug 06 - 04:57 PM And there's the whole maritime tradition (complete with chanteys) of the guano trade. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Slag Date: 11 Aug 06 - 05:15 PM More than I ever wanted to know about bat poop. 48 post to this? I hope to someday come up with a clever post like this that will draw large commentary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:46 AM Just make sure they are not vampire bats though... too much blood and bone meal is not good for a garden. It's none to clever as an air freshener either. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: GUEST,theresa_phelps2002 Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:05 PM Oh yeah. That bat dust lung disease killed my husband. Only he got it from pigeons. Same thing though. They brought him back to life and saved him but the damage is real. Stay away from bat caves and pigeon lofts. 10 days on life support is no fun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Troll Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:18 PM Here in Gainesville, Fla. at the Univ. of Fla., they have a bat house. they built it to try and lure the bats away from their roosts in - among other places - the football stadium. It worked. The bat house is located beside a small lake (Lake Alice) and people congregate in the evenings to watch as thousands of bats leave their roost for the evenings forage. Hey, everyone needs a hobby,I guess. I think bat watching is a little strange but what do I know? And no, I don't know what they do with the guano. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Peace Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:29 PM No wonder! It's a football stadium. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Aug 06 - 02:16 AM Theresa, Sorry to read that your husband had such a bad case. One of the problems with this is that it scars the lung tissue, so once you've had it, you may end up operating at a diminished capacity breathing-wise the rest of your life. (That's my understanding of it, at any rate). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???... From: Bobert Date: 13 Aug 06 - 08:21 PM Well, thanks folks fit sharin' yer vast knowledge of bat dung with this ol' hillbilly... Havin' survived the 60's I don't reckon there's too much of my lungs that ain't covered in scar tissue but, hey, this is some bad sh*t, that's fir sure... I've recieved a few PM's on the subject with suggestions and will follow them... They include talkin' with the local health department and the local ag-extension agent... |
