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Subject: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 12:22 AM

OK,now that those National League patsies are done screwin' around, we can get on with it. Next victims of the arms and bats of the TIGERS are the St. Lewie Screwies. We are goin' to kick their butts, Pa!!!

I am trying to get Leej to step up, but I am not sure he has the 'nads.

***snerk***

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 12:34 AM

Red Sox in 2007. You heard it here second.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 12:57 AM

OK. Hear this, Spudmeister Mick. I propose this bet...the loser must wear the hat of the winning team to the Getaway! (And bring him a fifth of the contraband liquor of his choice )


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 12:59 AM

And if you have a hard time getting a Cardinals hat in Detroit, I'll pick one up for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 01:07 AM

I'll find the hat, not that I will need it. You are on there, buddy. BBBWWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAA. The Lane liquor cabinet is on the way to being fully stocked.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 01:23 AM

Oh YEAH RIGHT. An Irishman with a stocked liquor cabinet. Not on Sunday morning, I bet!

They call these boys the "Tigers"?
The proud American League Heroes?
Against Carpenter, Weaver, and Suppan
They're bound to put up zeroes
They'll take the World Championship to Motown?
That couldn't be more wrong
'Cause the Cardinal Nine will take it back
to St Louis where it belongs!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 06:06 AM

Perhaps the loser might be awarded for the effort and loyalty to team with one of these fine products from a MICHIGAN company named Eternal Image. The reporter has a tough time but feel free to laugh yourself as you view this NEWS REPORT.

I can see the need here for a lot of Michigan Wolverine fans as well as baseball fans. BTW, there next target is NASCAR..........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 09:31 AM

This just in, Spaw. It turns out that Gehringer, Greenberg, and Cochran are fit and will suit up. They have been pissed since the '34 series, and are looking to avenge the loss to the Gas House Gang of St. Screwie. I am warning Ducky Medwick right now. If he comes into third again, with his spikes high, it won't be fruit and garbage they throw at him from the stand this time. Even Commish Landis won't be able to save him this time. Retribution is nigh, and the poor folk living in the shadow of the arch are due for a mighty disappointment.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Cool Beans
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 09:47 AM

Since 1940 the Tigers have won every World Series they've played in. Get out your brooms. The Tigers are going to sweep the Cards in 4.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 09:54 AM

CB, I will save a little of the whiskey I am about to win from the hapless Leej on this series. You might want to stand by in case I need you to find a hat with the Olde English D on it for Leej to wear.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Cool Beans
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 10:49 AM

You got it, Mick. They're easy to find here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 10:53 AM

Right. Detroit is going to win like they make cars. Their days are numbered to the seventh son (We Toronto people hate the Detroit Tigers, grrr).

Cardinals all the way. Cheep, cheep.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 11:05 AM

OK, Peter. You are on. I am planning on a trip to the T Town sometime in the near future (next 6 - 8 months). Lunch is the bet, waddya say, my Buddhist guru buddy?

Damn, I wish Rick was around. He would straighten you all out.

Tige's in 5.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 11:12 AM

Cubbies in 0.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: number 6
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 11:30 AM

Tigers in 4. All the way!


sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: freightdawg
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 01:05 PM

If Sparky was still around I'd go with the Sylvester and the Pussycats.
If Ozzie was still around I'd go with the Tweetybirds.

What if they played a world series and no one showed up??

Yawn.

(ducking and running for cover)

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,maire-aine
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 01:27 PM

RRRRRRROOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR! Tigers all the way! Let games begin.

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 01:51 PM

I knew if I worked at it awhile I could get this onto teams of yesteryear "when it was a game" as they say. And if Rick WAS around, he'd love it....and I'd bet he'd be betting on the Cards.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 01:54 PM

You are full of shit, Spaw. Rick would be betting on the Tigers. He was an American League kind of guy.

BTW, did you see the Swanno Mountain thread? We should be able to do something with that, doncha think??

Tige's in 5. Cobb is coaching 3rd base.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Wesley S
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 02:06 PM

Next year - THE CUBS !!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 02:46 PM

Every year -- THE CUBS!!!

The Cubs are the team to beat, and everyone does.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 02:54 PM

I've been Tigers fan ever since George Kell...and I lived in St. Louis one semester.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Chip2447
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 03:08 PM

REDBIRDS in 4 (probably not, but if you're gonna dream, dream big).

2 years ago The Bosox got their revenge for 67.
Last year Houston snuck one through.
This year is the Cards year to avenge the loss to Detroit in '68

GO CARDS!!!

Chip2447 (who has actually seen Bob Gibson pitch, granted I was only 8 at the time, and remembers those 17 K's in game one of the 68 series)


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Cool Beans
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 04:00 PM

Hey, fellow folkies: The Tigers have a pitcher named Kenny Rogers and he knows how to hold 'em. Also, the Tigers have Pete Seeger's brother, Bob, singing the national anthem.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: number 6
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 04:11 PM

Kenny Rogers is a class act .... he will carry the Tigers right through to victory!

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 05:22 PM

Hellfire Chip, I not only saw Bob Gibson but also Bob Feller! I was only 7 then but my Dad said I'd remember that game......and I do. Feller lost and was but a shadow of his former self (his last year) but that motion of his and the leg kick.............When he was "on" in the first few innings he was still great.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 06:55 PM

The St Louis Cardinals have been World Champions eight times, winning the World Series in '26, '31, '34, '42, '44, '46, '64, '67, and '82.

On that first Cardinal Championship team were all-time greats like Les Bell, Rogers Hornsby and Tommy Thevenow. But perhaps the greatest was a cantankerous character named Grover Cleveland Alexander.

Born during the presidency of his namesake, Alexander entered the league, and led it in pitching, in 1911 for the Phillies. After six starring seasons, Grover was drafted in 1917, and sent to France where he served as an artillery officer. In the vicious hedgerow battles, he spent days under constant bombardment and came home in 1918 suffering from shell shock, hearing loss, and increasingly violent and frequent seizures.

Despite his condition, the Cubs took a chance on him, and he pitched well for them until his alcoholism and violent clubhouse behavior got him sold to the Cardinals halfway through the 1926 season. The acquisition paid off royally for St Louis, and the pissed-off and inebriated Alexander became the Cardinals ace, helping them win the NL pennant and reach the World Series against the Yankees.
In the World Series, Alexander was on fire, pitching complete game victories in games 2 and 6. In game 7, with the bases loaded and the outcome in doubt in the seventh inning, Grover entered the game again, struck out the side, and held the Yankees scoreless for a 3-2 Cardinal victory.

Alexander pitched several more years for the Cards, but his demons eventually got the best of him, and he lost his arm, his health, and eventually his life. His records still stand, though. He is still the alltime NL pitching leader with 373 wins and 90 shutouts.

And dugout legends say that, to this day, when the Cardinals are in a really tough spot, the spirit of Grover Cleveland Alexander walks with the St Louis hurlers when they take the mound.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 07:30 PM

But remember the Tigers brought us Mark "The Bird" Fidrytch who was inhabited by all kinds of spirits with whom he seemed to have long conversations while pitching.....................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Beer
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 08:22 PM

"Go Red Wing Go"
    "Sorry"
"Go Tigers Go"


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 09:02 PM

Fidrytch. The Neil Young Center really missed out on an opportunity when they didn't extend him a scholarship.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 10:17 PM

Sure, lunch, Mickeroo. I think the Tigers are tankless.   

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,Coyote Breath (without cookie)
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 01:29 AM

Regional loyality aside I am convinced (voodoo is involved) that the Cardinals will, indeed, win the series. There will be seven games (money is the force here) and the Cardinals will win the seventh game botom of the 12th ining, the score will be 2 to 1. The win will be at the new stadium here in St. Louis and everyone will be pleased.

Or the Cardinals will lose all four games, playing like a bunch of college sophmores.

CB


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Chip2447
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 03:55 AM

Hey SPAW!!!

The way I hear it, you saw Abner DoubleDay play baseball. It may be rumor and ennuendo (nope, that ain't an Italian suppository) so I won't go around telling every one that you are THAT old.

Pax,
Chip2447 (tongue firmly planted in cheek)


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 06:45 AM

Well shoot Chip, I not only knowed Abner but I knew his Pa as well and I tried to tell him that the kid should concentrate on games and not school but his Daddy wanted to be sure he got all educated so it set things back a few years!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 02:36 PM

Cards have World Series experience. That will help them. Will it be enough? Not from what I can see. Tigers should win this one. I'm almost hoping it goes 6 so they can take it in Detroit. But I'm going to give St. Louis a game. I'll say Tigers in 5. St. Louis has really not played well all season--several large losing streaks in mid-season--and would not be a contender in the AL. The Tigers came out of the most competitive division by far in either league this season and does not appear to be tankless at all. It just doesn't look to me like St. Louis can bring enough to the table.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 03:33 PM

At last, a voice of reason. I can taste the 12 year old Jimmers already.   Where's my Tigers hat.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 12:34 PM

Oddly, no one seems to have mentioned that Game One is in the books and it wasn't in the cards for the Tigers. St. Louis defanged Detroit 7 to 2.

Just thought I'd mention it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: number 6
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 12:36 PM

Yikes .... did I say Tigers in 4 ??

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 12:38 PM

"No one" here. Sorry, been a bit preoccupied with trying to slit my wrists. "She who must be obeyed" stopped me and kicked me in my royal backside, and simply reminded me that Kenny Rogers is up today, the lads have been off over a week, and quit being a fair weather fan.

I would remind you that I called it in five games. Besides, Cobb, Gehringer, Kaline, Trammell, and Whitaker are all starting today. This one is in the bag.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: number 6
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 12:42 PM

Kenny will get the momentum goin'!!

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 12:45 PM

I wonder what I will have for lunch? As an environmentalist, I am of course not in favour of Tiger burgers.

(The truth probably is that the team that sits around for a few days waiting for the other to win loses the first game until they smarten up.

Hmmm, I wonder what crow tastes like.....

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 04:39 PM

For those who may need Cardinals paraphernalia

Some Cardinals items may not be available in all areas, but the above makes on-line ordering easy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 08:47 AM

I'm in for the tigers. And I'll bet a Toronto lunch with anyone!
Detroit in 6

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Cool Beans
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 09:58 AM

I still say Tigers in 4! Starting yesterday (Sunday). Only 3 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 10:06 AM

For those who may need Tigers paraphernalia

Some Tigers items may not be available in all areas, but the above makes on-line ordering easy!

****snerk****


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 12:39 PM

As seen on TV!!!

Other Kenny Rogers-endorsed Tigers products can be found here.

schnork!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 01:04 PM

The perfect accompaniment to a Cardinals World Series Victory

As endorsed by Lonesome EJ!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 02:34 PM

OK, you might have a bitch about the top of the first inning ..... except that he shut them down the other 8 innings too. Which means that it was probably resin, which dirt go into. Or not.

The perfect accompaniment to a Tigers World Series Victory

As endorsed by the Biggest Damn Mick you have ever seen!!

The 12 year old was fine for the playoffs, but it takes 18 year old in the Series.

****snerk****


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM

I think Tony LoRussa said it best. It was really a non issue. As you said, they couldn't hit him for seven innings after the orange thumb incident, so I don't think it affected the outcome.
Rogers looks like a schizophrenic on pep pills when he's on the field, but he's a force on the mound and you get no argument from me on that.

I still reserve the right to call him Kenny "Pine Tar" Rogers, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 09:09 PM

The Cardinals lost the World Series to the Philadelphia Athletics in 1930, but the teams met again the following year, the Cardinals this time led by the fleet John Leonard Roosevelt "Pepper" Martin. This series would mark the last appearance for the A's in the Series for forty years.

The aging Redbirds pitcher, Burleigh Grimes, won two games, which included 7 no-hit innings in Game 3. Burleigh's career preceded the rule outlawing the spitball in 1920. A grandfather clause allowed Grimes to continue "wetting his pill" for the rest of his career.

Pepper Martin was an Oklahoma boy, known among sportswriters of the day as "the wild horse of the Osage". He led the league in stolen bases, and had 5 in the Series. When someone asked him what made him so fast, he said that where he had grown up in Oklahoma, "once you start runnin', ain't nothin' to stop you." Pepper also was a clutch hitter, batting 500 in the 1931 World Series.
Later in his career, he tried his hand at managing, once receiving a fine and suspension for choking an umpire.

That shadow behind the Third Base Coach? That'd be old Pepper Martin, urging the Cardinals runners to take just one more base.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 01:43 AM

In the Lower East Side of Manhattan was a dingy slum called the Gashouse District, a region frequented by whores, drunks and thugs, an area which took it name from several large petroleum storage tanks in the neighborhhood. The nastiest crew of thugs in the district gathered some measure of notoriety as "The Gashouse Gang".

When the 1934 Cardinals arrived at the Polo Grounds, they had just finished a rain-soaked game with the Boston Braves, and had had no time to clean their filthy uniforms. Arriving on the field sodden, funky, streaked with mud and tobacco juice, unshaven after a night on the road, the New York Giants and their fans were shocked by the appearance, and aroma, of these country boys. The next day a cartoon in the New York Herald Tribune depicted the Redbirds as "The Gashouse Gang", an insult that the team adopted as a compliment.

TheGashouse Gang, featuring stars like Pepper Martin, Leo Durocher, Frankie Frisch, Ripper Collins and the Dean Boys, Dizzy and Daffy, won the National League Pennant that year, Diz pitching a record 30 winning games. They met the Detroit Tigers in the World Series, going seven games before winning the Championship. Dizzy and Daffy together won 4 games, pitching a combined ERA of 1.43.

The following year, a line drive off of Dizzy Dean's toe brought an end to his pitching dominance in the National League, but the Gashouse Gang had made their mark in history, and in the hearts of the rough-and-tumble farmers, brewers, and teamsters who formed the heart of the Cardinals fan base in the Depression Era.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 01:35 PM

Damn Cards. My Tigers need to wake up those bats. How many chances did they have to score yesterday?? Now are down 2-1. But they will rise up in righteous anger and redeem themselves tonight. Too much talent not to.

Go Tigers!!!!

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 04:47 PM

Cards 4, Tigers 1 -- and that'd be all she wrote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 07:50 AM

Now that is some chicken shit finagling!! The Cards, justly fearful of the wrath of the Tigers, arrange a very "convenient" sprinkle to stave off the inevitable ass whuppin' that they were going to get. But have no fear, Oh Tigers Nation, our lads will be back tonight, with clean hands, and prepared to administer the righteous wrath on these pitiful escapees from an avian refugee camp. The end for the Gas House Gang begins tonight.

BTW, Sam Crawford is starting in right field. This brings a live bat to spark the other hitters, and blazing speed on the bases. Be afraid, St. Screwie, very afraid.

I can taste the Jamesons now.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 08:56 AM

Unh-huh. But as the immortal said, "It ain't over yet."

Go Cubs!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Cool Beans
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 11:15 AM

Despite the rained out game Wednesday night this morning's Detroit Free Press carried 19 stories on it. Apparently, the game itself is irrelevant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 11:40 AM

If the Red Sox could play this year, they would have kicked both the birdies and big pussies collective asses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 11:42 AM

Ouch!!! Unfair as hell, Jeri!! You know I can't answer that because my two favorite teams on this orb are the Tigers and the Red Sox. I get panicky as hell at the thought of them playing each other in the playoffs. I know I will be happy at the outcome, and despondent at the same time.

Dirty trick. LOL.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 11:45 AM

I love baseball, but the games start too late for me..9;30 in Atlantic canada and then there are five or six adds after each half inning so it is after midnight when it ends..as for my kids, who would love to watch, they are in bed before it starts...too bad. I have a soft spot for the Tigers and I wish them well, but I can't lose sleep over it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 01:32 PM

It's in the cards, Mick (gee, no one ever said that before!).

Still, they came to play, they have to touch all the bases, and if they give 111% no one can say what will happen on the day, as long as they have heart......

Who has the biggest cliches, that is what I want to know?

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 02:01 PM

Damn, Peter, that is a masterful use of hyperbole. I bow to the master......LOL.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 02:11 PM

Mick, I'll betcha a bottle of Jameson's best that the Cubs aren't in the Series next year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 02:32 PM

ROFLMAO.

Thank gawd I wasn't drinking anything when I read that, Rap!!

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 07:41 PM

Peter T

"One thing you can say for them...they just don't quit!"

I love that particular cliche. Has a baseball team actually quit when things were going badly? "Ok, Ok. We get the point. No use playing these last two innings. Why swing at the ball when we know we ain't gonna hit it? It's just humiliating. We're going home."
I mean, there are times this year when the Kansas City Royals SHOULD have probably quit and spared everyone a lot of wasted time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Chip2447
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 01:32 AM

One more victory for the Cards and this one is a done deal.

Make sure you get pictures of Mick wearing his Cardinal hat proudly.

The weather for tomorrow night doesnt look too promising but what a way to open a brand new stadium...

GO CARDS!!!

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 02:04 AM

Ah, Mick! It's all over bar the shoutin'.
As we Red Sox fans are wont to say - Wait til next year.
Yer gonna look lovely in that Cardinal hat.
I believe they call it a mitre.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 08:11 AM

What will I have for lunch...........?

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:32 AM

    The opera ain't over till the fat lady sings.
      Dan Cook, sportswriter for the San Antonio News-Express, 1976


Yo (as we say here in Jersey)...... Driver ..... don't you dare slow down the bandwagon ..... if these layabouts want to jump off, make 'em do it at full speed..... hope they land on der gobs ......

Oh ye of little faith, don't forget my other beloved team, the Boston Red Sox. The same was said of them the year they broke the curse. I am looking around for a hat, but I ain't buyin' it yet. That is the Manager of the Year in the dugout, ya know.

Anyone know a decent purveyor of poultry that sells fresh crow.

Mitre, indeed. HAAARRRRRUUUUUMMMMMPH.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:33 AM

I remind you that in 1968 the Tigers came back from behind, winning three games in a row to clinch the series.

The World Series.

Just don't count your cardinals before they bugger, or whatever it is they do.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 12:42 PM

It is to laugh.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 12:50 PM

Damn, Peter. You have a bit of a mean streak. LOL.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Cool Beans
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 02:40 PM

What Amos said, with the added note that it was the Cardinals whom the Tigers defeated in the 1968 SEries, after being down 3-1. We've got 'em right wehre we want 'em. Heh heh heh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 06:01 PM

Stan Musial was a Pennsylvania boy, the son of a Czech immigrant. He joined the Cards line up in 1940, and finally took his last at bat in 1963. Throughout his career he was a consistent RBI hitter, led the NL in batting average 7 times, and led 6 times in hits and on base percentage. In the process, Musial helped the Redbirds win the World Series in 1942, when the "St Louis Swifties" used dominant hitting and base-running to beat the Yankees in 5. Old Number 6 also led St Louis in 1944 to victory in the "Trolleycar Series" over crosstown rivals the St Louis Browns 4 to 2. His bat was a key in the victory over the Red Sox in 1946, as well.

Preacher Rowe, a Dodgers pitcher of the era said of Musial "My best way of dealing with Musial is this : I throw him 4 wide ones and then try to pick him off at first." In 1966, a statue of Stan the Man was erected at Busch Stadium. When meeting friends at the Stadium, the statue is a common rendezvous point, and "I'll met you by Stan" is an often-heard phrase. Stan The Man Musial turns 86 next November 21st.

As Musial was a soft-spoken gentleman, Enos "Big Country" Slaughter was a take-no-prisoners, loud, aggressive force on the diamond. The North Carolinian hit .392 in 1946, and was immortalized for scoring from first on a single by Henry Walker in the bottom of the eighth inning, game 7 against the Red Sox. Circling the bases at top speed like a rhino in spikes, Slaughter scored the run that would win the Series for St Louis.

Slaughter ran everywhere, even to first on a walk. And Big Country saw every opposing player as an enemy, every game as a battle to the death. A son of the segregated South, Slaughter tried to organize a strike when Jackie Robinson came into the league, and was shunned by Major League Baseball for forty years after cleating Robinson in the leg on a close play at first. Enos maintained he would have cleated anyone in the same situation, and there were certainly enough infielders with scarred shins and ankles to vouch for that. "A guy gets in my way, I run over him," Slaughter was quoted as saying.

Whatever you think of old Enos Slaughter, one thing's certain : Nobody hustled more, or played harder, not even Slaughter's great admirer,Pete Rose. His "Mad Dash" is a part of Cardinals legend, evidence that talent and luck play a roll in victory, but nothing beats sheer guts and determination. Outside Busch Stadium, cast immortally in bronze, Slaughter slides into home plate, the catcher a breath too late for the tag, the umpire signalling safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: pdq
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 06:51 PM

"Stanislaus Musial...was born the first son and second youngest of six children to Lukasz Musial, a Polish immigrant and zinc mine worker and Mary Lancos who had Slovakian immigrant grandparents...He was the first inductee into the Polish-American Sports Hall of Fame, in 1973 and the Polish National Hall of Fame."


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 07:33 PM

Um, I'm not really good at math, but its not looking too good for Sylvester and the Pussycats.



"I tawwt I taw a tiwger.......I did, I did"

Never count the tweetie birds completely out.


Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:14 PM

I always root for the underdog, in this case for the Tigers who beat up the American League in an awesome display of talent and power this year. And to think they were in the pits just a few years ago.

My White Soxs finally pulled it off last year, and I'm not about to write off the Tigers until the bottom half of the ninth inning of the last game.

All they got to do is focus, and pass a round some Ripple to pull it off!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:13 PM

The Tigers should be ashamed of themselves for looking so bad in the World Series. Wasn't much of a series. It was obvious from Game 1 that they would lose.

They put on an act as though they could take on anybody but it's obvious now that it was nothing but luck. They got lucky. St. Louis is a pretty bad team considering their multiple 8-game losing streaks this season and they mopped up the Tigers and for that I can only say too bad. The better team definitely won.

They could have at least made a series out of it.

Thanks for nothing, boys.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:27 PM

Jeezizkeeriste, 282RA, I have seen jumpin' off the bandwagon, but you take the cake. Couldn't you at least let the detractors do the ass kickin??????? You ain't much of a Tigers fan in my book.

Leej, do you think I will look good in red??????

Anyone got a good stuffing recipe for crow?

Shit. Life sucks, then basketball and hockey start.

Mick, gone shopping for a Cardinals hat (Oh the friggin' shame)


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:28 PM

BM- I hope you do better in real life than in prognosticating World Series'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:31 PM

Deep shit Mick.......Wait til PT get ahold of you!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:35 PM

So anyway, about lunch....... (caw, caw, caw)

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:36 PM

'Spaw, I am fairly breathless with anticipation.

That will be damn near as enjoyable as a hemorrhoidectomy.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:36 PM

Well that didn't take long..............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:37 PM

Damn, he even beat me to the friggin post. Shit, my world sucks. Lunch on me.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:39 PM

Oh I'm sure it will be on you. The question is, how badly will it stain?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:39 PM

When you're in a World Series, you're in it to play and win. The Tigers did precious little of either. They played just the way they did at the end of the season when KC kicked their ass and all the Tigers had to do was win one of that last 5 games of the season to win their division. They lost em all.

They gave the false impression they had put that behind them in the playoffs but the other teams were just not playing well. And when the Tigers make it to the World Series they reverted back to their end-of-the-season play where anybody would have beaten them. They had no chance against St. Louis or anyone else.

Getting shellacked the first game, getting shut out in game 4 and the only game they won they cheated. That was pretty piss poor. To be beaten by any team in the NL is cause for supreme embarrassment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:41 PM

Do me a favor, buddy? Go be a fan of some other team. Any one will do except the Red Sox. How about the Yankees? The A's? San Diego? Any one will do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 11:48 PM

So what are you saying 282? Before the series you said:
Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,282RA - PM
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 02:36 PM

Cards have World Series experience. That will help them. Will it be enough? Not from what I can see. Tigers should win this one. I'm almost hoping it goes 6 so they can take it in Detroit. But I'm going to give St. Louis a game. I'll say Tigers in 5. St. Louis has really not played well all season--several large losing streaks in mid-season--and would not be a contender in the AL. The Tigers came out of the most competitive division by far in either league this season and does not appear to be tankless at all. It just doesn't look to me like St. Louis can bring enough to the table.


Now when I read your posts after the series you seem to be saying that they THREW the series??? Acted? Gave a false impression?

Geeziz Man, they had a bad time of it. Excrement occurs. Neither team looked like anything memorable......

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Chip2447
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:00 AM

What a way to break in a brand new stadium. I've said it before, I'll say it one more time, this season...GO CARDS!!!

2006 World Series Champions

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:34 AM

>>Now when I read your posts after the series you seem to be saying that they THREW the series??? Acted? Gave a false impression?<<

I'd feel far better than I do now if they had thrown the series. At least then they'd have had to tone down their play in order to lose. But they had no play to tone down. They were outplayed in every category. No excuses. Tigers should have won it and they should have swept it. They had every advantage. Instead the melted down against a team that wouldn't have even made the playoffs had they been in the AL. That is unacceptable play.

>>Geeziz Man, they had a bad time of it.<<

Really? What gave you that impression?

>>Excrement occurs.<<

It certainly occurred on Detroit's end of things.

>>Neither team looked like anything memorable......<<

Cards kicked their ass. Looked pretty memorable to me. If I were a Cards fan I'd be jumping up and down and laughing myself silly over how easy it was beat the oh-so-fearsome Tigers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:35 AM

>>What a way to break in a brand new stadium. I've said it before, I'll say it one more time, this season...GO CARDS!!!

2006 World Series Champions<<

Congrats to the Cards. They certainly played like they wanted it--a marked difference from their opponent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:47 AM

Hell, they haven't had a series in a long time, so, good on them for shaking things up. How often do you get to say "The Cards took the World Series....?" It even sounds strange to the ear.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:54 AM

To be exact, it's been 24 years -- 1982 -- since it was last said with a straight face...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Raptor
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 07:53 AM

Well Shit and shove me in it!

I'm going back to my Jays.

My 2nd Fav team broke my heart!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 09:58 AM

So the Tigers tanked! Too bad. I had a great limmerick if they had won, something about the smile inside of the tiger.

I've got a hangnail that needs attention. Any suggestions?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Tigers & Cards - redbirds are goin down
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:36 PM

Amos, it's even stranger to say "Gee, the Cubs took the Series this year!"


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