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BS: Deep Dish

Stilly River Sage 01 Nov 06 - 01:54 PM
Wesley S 01 Nov 06 - 01:59 PM
GUEST, Topsie 01 Nov 06 - 02:06 PM
MMario 01 Nov 06 - 02:10 PM
Becca72 01 Nov 06 - 03:25 PM
Stilly River Sage 01 Nov 06 - 03:37 PM
MMario 01 Nov 06 - 03:44 PM
number 6 01 Nov 06 - 04:21 PM
number 6 01 Nov 06 - 04:31 PM
GUEST,lox 01 Nov 06 - 04:41 PM
open mike 01 Nov 06 - 05:18 PM
Rapparee 01 Nov 06 - 05:32 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 01 Nov 06 - 06:21 PM
Scoville 01 Nov 06 - 11:50 PM
The Fooles Troupe 02 Nov 06 - 07:18 AM
catspaw49 02 Nov 06 - 08:21 AM
MMario 02 Nov 06 - 08:41 AM
Rapparee 02 Nov 06 - 08:56 AM
Stilly River Sage 02 Nov 06 - 10:46 AM
Kaleea 02 Nov 06 - 12:53 PM
GUEST, Topsie 02 Nov 06 - 01:18 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Nov 06 - 01:24 PM
catspaw49 02 Nov 06 - 01:31 PM
MMario 02 Nov 06 - 01:47 PM
GUEST, Topsie 02 Nov 06 - 03:15 PM
MMario 02 Nov 06 - 03:22 PM
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Subject: BS: Deep Dish
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 01:54 PM

Okay, I'm dyslexic and didn't have my glasses on when I glanced at the screen a moment ago and misread "Sheep Dash" as "Deep Dish." But by then my culinary neurons had already kicked in and I was all ready to read about whatever it is that people are baking this time of year in a deep dish.

I'm still ready!

Pies, casseroles, one-pot meals--what are you cooking, now that it is cold outside?

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 01:59 PM

I'm due to start another pot of chili.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 02:06 PM

soup


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: MMario
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 02:10 PM

corn pudding;


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Becca72
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 03:25 PM

Cold? It's November 1 and it's 63° in Maine today. LOVE it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 03:37 PM

Describe that food! Recipes, please!

SRS (thinking fondly of that cornbread thread. . . )


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: MMario
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 03:44 PM

Corn pudding

1 can whole kernel corn, drained (or 1 and 1/2 cup frozen niblet corn, thawed)

1 can creamed corn

3 eggs (or the equivilant in egg whites/ egg substitues)

1/2 cup corn meal.

1/2 cup bacon crumbles

1 cup SHARP cheddar, shredded

1 cup cream (milk, skim milk depending on how fat conscious you are)

pepper to taste.


Stir everything together except cream until well blended - stir in cream and turn into a buttered baking dish. (the dish/casserole should be deep enough that the batter fills it no more then 2/3 full - this does puff up a lot in cooking)


Bake at 350 until set. (approx 1 hour)


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: number 6
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 04:21 PM

Shepherds vegetarian pie.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: number 6
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 04:31 PM

Shepherd's vegetarian pie ... is much like your standard pie but substitute the ground beef with ground soy meat.

Simple, but very good ... especially with lots of fresh ground black pepper.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 04:41 PM

And a sprinkling of vegetarian shepherds ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: open mike
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 05:18 PM

i figured you were talking about Deep Dish T.V.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 05:32 PM

Roofing tar.

We found an unlabeled can in the street one time and one day my mother decided to open it and serve it for dinner. Deep dish roofing tar.

(She did fix something else....)


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 06:21 PM

I bake cheap fish in my deep dish.

I cook moss bran in my sauce pan.

But I don't brew bee snot in my teapot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 11:50 PM

Ironically, Mom made quiche tonight. Well, our version of "quiche", which has no crust (too much bother, and really unnecessary when all is said an done) and no butter (per doctor's orders). Cheese, eggs (well, Egg Beaters), lots of spinach, mushrooms, skim milk, baked in a Pyrex dish. Yum. Great with salsa on it.

I always went for deep-dish pizza myself. I'm a crust fan. I know a lot of pizzaholics think that's completely crass but oh, well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 07:18 AM

Baking? At this time of year? In this weather?

30+ degress Cent? ... and it ain't fully summer yet...

We're the ones doing the baking...


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 08:21 AM

Yeah, but you're upside down.........

Okay Maggie.....I'll play!

Night before last:

I got a great buy on some beautiful 3/4 inch cut boneless sirloin pork chops very well trimmed. Generally I do this with a pork tenderloin sliced in thick medallions. I soaked them overnight (20 hours or so) in fresh apple cider and the split them for stuffing. I made a mix of diced apples, diced dates, Craisins(cranberry raisins), and black walnuts. Stuffed the meat and baked covered in about a half inch of the cider at 350 for an hour.

How was that?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: MMario
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 08:41 AM

I've been meaning to try that since you first ever mentioned it, 'spaw. When the kids get back from their honeymoon might do so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 08:56 AM

Ravisagna.

Make a lasagna, only use cheese ravioli instead of lasagna noodles. Sprinkle spinach, sliced mushrooms, and more cheese between the layers. To make it carnivorous, sprinkle some cooked sweet Italian sausage with the spinach, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 10:46 AM

I made my first batch of stew this week. I'd purchased a beef roast some time back when I thought we'd have cool weather, but it didn't happen, so I cubed the meat and froze it until now. When the kids were little I didn't do as many veggies in the stew (I usually kept it to carrots and potatoes, with broccoli added in the last few minutes) but this time I added my favorite parsnips and a turnip. The kid who's at home with me now mashes his stew into a mush before he eats it so he doesn't even realize the rest of the stuff is in there! :)

I found an upright freezer at an estate sale a few weeks ago, and this makes it easier for me make my favorite lasagne and freeze some for later. I never seem to be able to make one small batch. By the time I finish making all of the ingredients even out I have enough for at least three, and lasagne is a great one-dish meal that freezes beautifully.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Kaleea
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 12:53 PM

Here in San Diego, I'm waiting a few more months for the cold weather so that I can cook up some piping hot-but not spicy hot-dishes. Meanwhile, one can go to most any restaurant here & find "hot" food which the faint at heart & stomach (my tummy included) should never go near.
By the way, when I lived in Minnesota (minn-KNEE-so-TUH), I was quite confused about the term "hot dish." It confused me even more when someone anounced that they had brought their "famous deep dish hot dish" to a potluck supper. It was a very tall pot of chili, which up there is called "chili hot dish."


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 01:18 PM

Spaw, when you say 'fresh apple cider' do you mean apple juice, rather than the alcoholic stuff that is cider in the UK?


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 01:24 PM

Stifado (slow-cooked pot of shallots, clover, peppercorns and roadkill of your choice, ideally hare).


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 01:31 PM

LOL....Yep, sorta'. Apple juice here is highly processed. Apple Cider is simply pressed apples but often pasteurized. We have a place locally where the guy makes it the old way and just presses the apples and bottles it up unpasteurized. He uses a popular Ohio apple, the Melrose, a delicious cross of the Delicious and Jonathan that has broad usages from just eating to baking, cider, and apple sauce and apple butter....a really GREAT apple!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: MMario
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 01:47 PM

'spaw's recipe would probably be pretty good done with UK style cider as well though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 03:15 PM

If you were to keep some of the unpasteurised apple juice it might just turn itself into the alcoholic kind anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: MMario
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 03:22 PM

oh, yes. pleasantly so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: RangerSteve
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 03:28 PM

Various pies, muffins, breads, my first attempt at bread pudding with blueberries (hint: don't use a metal pan - the pudding tastes like metal). I have to try Rapaire's ravioli recipe. Thanks, Rap.

Also did a lot of fried stuff, now that it's cool enough to stand over the stove. Fried catfish, fried green tomatoes, hushpuppies.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 03:37 PM

I forgot to mention that you do have to add spaghetti or some other sauce!


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: number 6
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 04:30 PM

My wife makes an outstanding deep dish chicken pot pie.

If anyone is interested I can get get her recipe.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 05:03 PM

Snow and ice on the ground here in Alberta; winter is a-cumin in! My response to you folks in warm countries- Aarrrghh!

Here is one that we make, but the recipe develops as we put it together, so these are generalized instructions.

"Chicken Pot Pie"

Larger grocery stores here roast chickens on site, and sell them hot; we buy one and enjoy a few slices plus the legs, but much is left over.
Remove most of the meat from the bones and reserve.
Boil the bones, with spices to your liking, until you get a good broth. Throw out the bones.
If necessary, thicken with flour (we often use tapioca flour) and butter, and continue cooking to adjust the amount (Not TOO thick since the broth is needed to moisten the meat and vegetables).
Cut mixed vegetables (whatever is on hand, broccoli, peas, onions, carrots, mushrooms, etc.).
In a DEEP DISH (shhh- Joe hates caps) place the mixed cut-up chicken, vegetables and broth.
Put in the oven at 350 F until it starts to bubble.
Place a dough blanket over the contents of the dish (biscuit dough is nice) and return to the oven. Cook until the blanket starts to brown nicely.
Let cool a bit and serve with a vegetable or fruit salad on the side, and the rest of the biscuit dough baked into biscuits.

A recipe for experimentation, varied according to what is on hand. Not for those who must weigh and measure all the ingredients.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 10:33 AM

That's a good approach, Q. It might be easier to thicken the gravy at the end, after the veggies and before the crust part. You'll get less sticking to the pot.

I use a counter top convection oven that is essentially a big glass bowl and the lid is where the heater and the fan are housed. So when I roast a chicken I always pour the drippings (usually around 8-10 ounces) into a bowl, grease and all, and refrigerate. This is great for gravy, or to add more flavor to soups (it means you can make a nice soup faster, without making a broth first) or can be used for gravy (the grease on top is handy--I rarely use all of it, but I do use some of it for flavor. And chicken soup just doesn't look or taste right unless it has a little fat floating on top). If I'm not going to use this stock shortcut soon, it freezes well.

In the past I've made the whole crust chicken pot pie, but it's a lot of work. My kids were also at first reluctant to eat it, when they realized that pie on the table wasn't a sweet dessert, so I started making the chicken stew and serving it in bowls. The crust comes in with the help of the kids--I rolled it out and let them choose whatever cookie cutters they wanted (lots of seasons are represented in my collection) and they cut out their own pie crust. When it was time to sit down to dinner, they could hardly wait to drop their personal pieces of crust onto the top of their bowl of chicken stew. Now that they're big you'd think I could go back to the regular pie, but no, they still want their cookie cutter pie crust shapes. :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 06:31 AM

I got a box of baking apples in my monthly fruit box (courtesy of my husand's Boss) and so I decided to use them in this week's version of Bannock.

Bannock read is basically equal parts flour (or bisquick) and rolled oats, some salad oil, some chopped fruit, enough uttermilk to wrt ingredients, spices and optional egg. You mix it all up, pour into a well oiled deep dish iron casserole and bake till done on inisde and cripsy on outside.

I made mine this AM with:

Apple-Cranberry Bannock
1 1/2 cups Bisquick
1/2 cup rolled oats
5 packets of Maple & brown Sugar Instant oats (i was out of rolled oats)
2 macintosh apples peeled, cored and diced very tiny
1/3 cup dried orange flavored cranberries diced really tiny
1 cup of unsweetened bobs red mill shredded coconut
2 tablespoons of cinnamon ( me like cinnamon)
1 teaspoon allspice
1 teaspoon mace
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 cup castor sugar
1 cup buttermilk
3 eggs ( I know Bannock isn't supposed to have eggs ut I like mine that way)

Mix it all up and pour into a well oiled iron casserole and ake at 375 until a baking proe comes out clean (I used a long wooden skewer) and outside is crispy. Also makes VERY nice mini-loaves. if using mini loaf pan, they take between 18 and 25 minutes depending upon your oven


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 08:07 AM

Last time I looked at Bisquick in a shop (2005, having seen it recommended in a midcat thread) the ingredients included partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.
Unless the ingredients have changed, I would recommend the flour option in Dave's Wife's recipe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 08:13 AM

That was me, hitting the submit button before I read the post (but I quite like the idea of a midcat thread).


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 08:47 AM

Most recent deep dish I cooked was a lamb hotpot. Quite traditional, odds and sods of undesirable cuts of lamb. Added some green lentils(big, not Puy), as I hadnt got any barley to hand. A few leeks, which I think thicken the juice in a very luxurious manner. A few tomatoes to make it all read. Herbs, a bit of Worcester source, a dash of cayenne. Topped off with sliced potatoes, covered with a very generous sprinkle of black pepper.. Cooked with the lid on for a while, then lid off for the last half hour to brown the potatoes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: leeneia
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 10:10 AM

We welcomed winter with Sherry Beef and Onions

First, make or buy a loaf of good white bread. I make mine in my bread-baking machine.

Cut a chuck roast into 2 to 3-inch pieces. Put it into a slow cooker, with or without a liner.* Cut a yellow onion into wedges and put them on top of the beef. Slip in a bay leaf or two. Pour 3/4 cup of inexpensive sherry, such as Taylor or Fairfield over all. Slow cook on low all day.

(I believe that in the future I will saute the onion first.)

At suppertime, remove the meat to a storage or serving bowl. Carefully transfer the liquid to a fat separator.

Make gravy: in a smallish skillet, melt 2 Tbsp margarine. Whisk in 2 Tbsp flour. Cook 2 minutes on low heat. Whisk in the juices, minus the beef fat. Allow it to boil and thicken. When it is done, pour gravy over beef.

To serve, break pieces of bread into a bowl, ladle beef&gravy on top. Delicious!

*Slow cooker liners are a great invention. They are like a Reynolds oven bag, and they save having to clean off baked-on food. They do make it tricky to pour out the juices, howeveer.

What do you do with the rest of the sherry? Make a pound cake and invite friends over for sherry and pound cake.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 12:10 PM

I think I'll make some beef-barley soup today. Really thick stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 01:11 PM

"Fried catfish, fried green tomatoes, hushpuppies." RangerSteve
um um um I do miss the food of the south.

We're in the middle of a cold snap in Juneau and most of the time there is a sharp wind blowing right off the snow-covered mountain tops so stews and pot pies and chowders hit the spot(s).

I slow-cookered a stew the other day and froze part of it. Very good.

Yesterday I was out on a long walk with my little dog and after getting thoroughly chilled but not wanting to go home where there was grief waiting I eventually found myself at a friend's house. She and her husband were just sitting down to chicken pot pie so I ate with them. Yum.

My friend said that she no longer makes her own crust but instead buys it ready made. I think it comes in a tube and if I remember correctly, Pillsbury makes it. It was flaky and tender and tasty. Have any of you tried it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST, ...
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 01:44 PM

Hushpuppies are food? - I thought they were shoes - soles maybe?


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Morticia
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 02:39 PM

Just made apple pie.....dinner tonight is stuffed chicken breast ( stuffed with mushroom, strong cheddar and wholegrain garlic mustard with some fresh thyme and wrapped in Black Forest Schinken) with roast potatoes cooked in goose fat and sprinkled with fresh black pepper and parsley, carrots and broad beans, par boiled then tossed in a wok with sesame oil, garlic and lemon. We may have room for apple pie but my guess is it will have to wait until tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: RangerSteve
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 03:28 PM

Hushpuppies - I don't have the recipe in front of me, but basically, they're corn meal, flour, minced onions, baking powder, sugar (optional), and milk. mixed together and dropped by spoonfuls into hot oil and deep fried. They have to be eaten hot, and they don't keep well after an hour.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 03:35 PM

Go to a southern restaurant and they keep 'em coming. Kind of like what northern restaurants do with bread sticks.

My guess is that Hushpuppies shoes got their name from the suede leather look and feel. Kind of like hushpuppies. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 04:00 PM

Gimme some just-caught catfish, breaded and fried in corn meal, any day. Preferably cooked over an open fire on the banks of the Upper River on a lovely Spring day, with some cold beer to wash it down and the johnboat you caught 'em from tied to the tree you're cookin' 'em under, a banjo layin' on one seat.

With that kinda heaven you don't need no harps or angels!


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 04:56 PM

On our butcher's counter, we found a recipe for Osso Bucco. It has become a favorite. We cook it in a large, high, stainless steel pot. We modified it by combining with a very similar recipe.
Amounts vary, depending on how much meat we have, etc.
Here are both recipes, for comparison.

OSSO BUCCO Butcher's recipe
Six pieces veal shank, cross-cut abt. 2 " thick, (abt.8 oz. each), fat trimmed.
1/4 cup flour
1/4 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper (we prefer white)
2-4 tsp vegetable (or good olive oil)
2 onions, coarse chop
6 cloves garlic, finely chopped
2 stalks celery, 2 medium carrots, chopped
2 cups short grain Italian rice (we use brown rice instead)
2 cups dry white wine
1 large can plum tomatoes, with juice
2 tsp lemon juice, fresh preferred
1 tsp chopped fresh rosemary (or 1/2 tsp dried)
2 cups short grain Italian rice (we use brown rice)
1 cup peas, fresh or frozen
1/2 tsp pepper
1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley
1 tbsp grated lemon peel
Combine flour, salt and pepper; pat veal dry and dust with seasoned flour. Heat oil in large deep ovenproof skillet. Brown veal on medium high heat. Remove meat and all but 2 tsp fat from pan. Add onions, four cloves chopped garlic, celery and carrots. Reduce heat, cook gently for 10 minutes. Add wine and increase heat; bring to boil and let half the wine evaporate.
Add tomatoes, breaking slightly with spoon. Add lemon juice, rosemary and pepper.
Return veal to pan, cover and simmer in preheated 325 F oven three-four hours or until meat is very tender.
Meanwhile add rice to boiling water and cook until tender. Add peas, cover and rest two minutes. Drain rice and peas in sieve, season with salt.
In small bowl, combine parsley, lemon peel and two cloves chopped garlic.
Serve meat and pot contents over rice and peas and sprinkle with parsley topping.

OSSO BUCCO

4 pounds veal cross-cut shanks, 1 1/2-2 inches thick
2 tablespoons olive oil
1 teaspoon salt
1 cup chopped onion
1.2 cup chopped carrot
3 cloves garlic, crushed
1 can Italian tomatoes, 16 oz, undrained
1 cup dry white wine
1 teaspoon dried basil leaves

Gremolata:
1 tablespoon chopped parsley
2 teaspoons grated lemon peel
1/2 tsp finely chopped garlic.

In Dutch oven, heat 1 tablespoon oil over medium heat until hot. Add veal shanks, 1/3 at a time and brown evenly, turning occasionally; add remaining oil as needed. Remove shanks from pot; season with salt.

Add onion, carrot and crushed garlic to pot; cook and stir 6-8 minutes or until tender. Add tomatoes, wine and basil. Return shanks to pot, bring to a boil.
Reduce heat to low; cover and simmer 1 1/2 hours or until meat is tender.

Meanwhile, in small bowl, combine gremolata ingredients and set aside.

Remove shanks to warm platter. Skim fat from cooking liquid (see COMMENTS).
Cook sauce over high heat until slightly thickened, stirring occasionally. Spoon 3/4 cup sauce over shanks, sprinkle with gremolata, serve with remaining sauce.

COMMENTS: Veal here is young beef, and it works well. We do it all in a large, stainless pot. The butcher we have has trimmed excess fat, or we do it; we don't have to skim. Garlic sold in our stores is very mild, so more is needed than is called for in the second recipe. Good garlic is sometimes available at Italian grocers.
We flour the meat before browning, rather than mixing the flour with the other ingredients being browned.
We add thyme to the ingredients.
Microwave small, firm white potatoes (Yukon Gold) for a side vegetable that is good with the sauce and a bit of butter.
We prefer Uncle Ben's brown rice, cooked according to the recipe on the box. There is no excess liquid to pour off.
If the sauce-vegetable mixture has to be thickened, tapioca flour is used because it doesn't add an undesirable taste.
The vegetables are cut coarsely; as well as a sauce, we almost have 'pot-roast' type vegetables to serve along with the Osso Bucco.
If a little 'bite' is desired, a very small amount of New Mexico green chili powder can be added.

This makes a lot; good for two days, reheated.

Please Let me know if you spot omissions or have suggestions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 01:19 PM

What good timing, Leeneia! I have a loaf of bread rising in the kitchen right now, and I have a chuck roast thawing to brown in a little while then put in the crock pot. I was going to make a pot roast, but I'll try this instead. Dinner will be late tonight because I have to drive my daughter back to college, but when I get home the meat will be ready and the bread will be there and we'll give that a try. I'll use red wine because that's what I have handy.

Thanks!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: RangerSteve
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 06:55 PM

I just tried this today and it's worth sharing:
Cranberries
boil 2 cups of water.
when it starts to boil, turn off the heat and steep a bag of green tea in it for four minutes.
remove the tea bag, add 3/4 cups of sugar and 1 tsp Chinese five-spice powder, (McCormicks makes it, it'll be in the spice section of your grocery). Stir until the sugar and spices dissolve. Bring the water back to a boil and add 1 bag of cranberries. cook until the cranberries pop. If it's still watery, dissolve some corn starch in a small amount of cold water and add to the cranberries. Cook until the cranberry mixture thickens. Serve at any temperature.

I love traditional cranberry sauce, and mever saw a need for improvement, but this was really great.


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: number 6
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 07:50 PM

Vegetarian gumbo tonite .... with homemade corn bread.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 09:10 PM

Clam chowder, and that's with whole clams, not the minced variety, and not with midwest library paste or Massachusetts tomato sauce. What you need to do is saute some onions, boil up some potato slices, add some milk and a little corn starch for thickener, and the clams and let it simmer for a few hours. There should be some butter added toward the end and maybe some parsley and paprika. Yum!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, on the Coast of Maine


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: Morticia
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 03:34 PM

Yeah, see , that's easy for you, Charlie. We would have to take out a second mortgage to afford the clams. Sounds good though. When are you inviting me to dinner? *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: Deep Dish
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 03:49 PM

'library paste'?


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