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BS: Texas Secession

kendall 18 Apr 09 - 08:12 AM
Bobert 18 Apr 09 - 09:17 AM
Uncle Phil 18 Apr 09 - 10:22 AM
Bill D 18 Apr 09 - 10:33 AM
Amos 18 Apr 09 - 12:02 PM
Little Hawk 18 Apr 09 - 02:17 PM
Les from Hull 18 Apr 09 - 02:40 PM
JohnInKansas 18 Apr 09 - 05:33 PM
Goose Gander 20 Apr 09 - 12:32 AM
GUEST, Stilly River Sage 25 Mar 10 - 02:18 AM
Richard Bridge 25 Mar 10 - 04:23 AM
Bobert 25 Mar 10 - 06:53 AM
GUEST,Neil D 25 Mar 10 - 08:39 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: kendall
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 08:12 AM

I saw the skits done by Letterman and Leno on that sap. What a riot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 09:17 AM

Funny thing about Wes Ginny is that loota them boys have had a change of heart... You'll see more confederate flags in Jefferson County, WV than you'll find in simialr sized counties much further south... Seems that lotta folks didn't get the memo... lol...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 10:22 AM

Random notes after reading through this thread again this morning:
The business about dividing into 5 states is part of the Ordinance of Annexation, and in not, as far as I know, in the Texas state constitution. However, I haven't read all 800 pages of the constitution. Every political party in Mexico hsd a platform plank advocating the return of Texas to Mexico at one time. Maybe they still do. The Texas legislature expressed their feelings about the gov's remarks by deleting his operating budget for the next two years. That should save us some on taxes. The Washington Post reports that the U.S. State Department published list of the foreign countries visited by Secretary Clinton this year. Texas is on the list.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 10:33 AM

It's a bit hard to fathom the mindset of some Texans who have made **being Texan** their main hobby. It's almost as if they LOOK for reasons to object to what the USA as a 'country' does.

I seriously doubt many of them really, really would want to try to run Texas as an independent country, but some of them sure enjoy (as I saw last night) hinting that they could, if they wanted to, break into 5 states and throw 8 more senators at the Democrats!

"Better be nice to us and not pass any stupid *LIBERAL* crap about gun control or *gasp* Gay Marriage, or we will become 5 small dogs, and bite your ankles."


I truly do not know whether such attitudes are social or genetic (and I know it is not universal there)....either way, it is not plesant to watch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Amos
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 12:02 PM

"... Perry, who is the sort of person who calls other guys "dude," used to be a cotton farmer, a group that seems to have a special talent for combining rugged individualism with intransigent demands for government assistance. Even as we speak, the Obama administration budget-cutters are trying to end a longstanding federal practice of paying the costs of storing the entire national cotton crop every year. No other farmers get this kind of special treatment, and I am sure Perry's failure to mention it when he calls for an end to corporate bailouts is a terrible oversight that will be corrected immediately.

The big mystery here is why the tax-protest crowds were behaving as if the world was coming to an end when all Obama's infant presidency has done is lower taxes for a vast majority of the public. And why people like Perry seem to feel compelled to egg them on.

The answer is that what's left of the Republican Party is intent on cutting off the knees of the administration before it actually manages to fulfill any campaign promises on reducing the huge economic gap between the top 5 percent of the country and the rest of the populace. In pursuit of that mission, fortune favors the hysterical and rewards politicians who behave like gerbils that just bit into an electric wire.

We don't want to blame all Texans for the high jinks in Austin. It's a state full of lovely people, three-fourths of whom, according to a recent Rasmussen Reports poll, have no desire whatsoever to secede from the United States.

But Perry really understands how that other quarter feels. ...


(Gail Collins, NYT)


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 02:17 PM

Bill D - "It's a bit hard to fathom the mindset of some Texans who have made **being Texan** their main hobby."

Yeah, it is hard to fathom, Bill. And I feel exactly the same way about Black people who have made **being Black** their main hobby or gay people who have made **being gay** their main hobby or female activists who have made **being female** their main hobby, plus a number of other common examples of that sort of thing in certain contentiously defensive (or is it offensive?) people who have been disproportionately dominating the public dialogue for a few decades now.

I call it not being able to just get over yourself and your special "problem" and just focus on being part of the human race instead.

Texans, of course, don't even have the excuse that anyone's been persecuting them. ;-) At least not since they defeated Santa Ana.


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Les from Hull
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 02:40 PM

In 1836 Texas seceded from Mexico.

In 1861 Texas seceded from the United States of America.

Aren't these people ever happy?


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Apr 09 - 05:33 PM

From: Michael Morris - PM
Date: 16 Apr 09 - 03:43 PM

Everyone in this country associates secession with the South (for some obvious reasons), but that's not the whole story . . .

New England Secession Tradition part one

New England Secession Tradition part two


The promised Part three does not appear in the index for the Fall 2007 Issue of the magazine (Vermont Commons Journal) [Scroll down for contents of earlier issues]

Apparently, as with other secessionists, "they" got him before he could finish it.

Part 1 does point out that Vermont, like Texas, existed as a "sovereign state" prior to joining the US, and didn't "secede" from the British Empire until about a year after the other states.

(Some people accuse Vermonters of "being a little slow" but I think the accusation indictes a lack of understanding of their cultural cohesiveness.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Goose Gander
Date: 20 Apr 09 - 12:32 AM

Yeah, I never did find the elusive 'part three' . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: GUEST, Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 02:18 AM

Jeffrey Toobin, the political analyst and observer of the Supreme Court, was at UT Arlington today. At a talk tonight he was asked about Rick Perry's succession statements. After hemming and hawing for a minute, he said "That's just plain stupid, isn't it?"

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 04:23 AM

As far as we can see from over here, stupidity is not, in Texan politics, a reason not to say or do something.


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 06:53 AM

Me thinks that Texas gets more back from the feds that it pays in so if they wanta go, let 'um... They are a drain on the US Treasury... BTW, that goes for mosy of the South... They all are doing much better on dollars returned compared to dollars paid in than alot of their NE and western counterparts... Oh yeah, and no protection either once they go... If Mexico want's to invade then it's Texas's problem... Not ours...

(But, Boebrdz... We need Texas's oil...)

We do??? The US has only 3% of the world's oil reserves so if we all just cut out 3 miles of driving per hundred miles we are driving now then there would be no need for replqacing that oil... And when you factor in the amount of oil that Texans use of the total US reserves then it's probably closer to 2 miles per hundred that would need to be sacrificed...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Texas Secession
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 08:39 AM

Too bad they didn't secede ten years ago. Bush could have been their president and not ours.


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