"What should keep you awake nights is that in the real America, we can make war so long as it's not us dying.
We're working hard to automate our weapons, to take American crews out of our planes and tanks and ships so that we can use them whenever we want. Once we're free of that burden, who will we decide to punish next, when will one of our politicians decide to "wag the dog" to get out of a problem at home? Be honest: do you think that only one American party thinks America is always right and should tell other people what they have to do? Only one party plays politics with war?"

in total agreement with you here, strick. no, both parties have played this wicked game at times. the guys doing it now seem to me to be playing with a lot more fiery situations than any other past admin dealt with. all the more reason to get them out. by the way, the first administration to use remote control war was not clinton (tho he did it too). it was bush the first in the gulf war.
also, on your other point you may note that my earlier post included american and iraqui dead references. i agree that it is evil to discount the innocent iraqui that have died in this sham.

dougR, please refer to my post of 27 Mar 04 - 09:16 PM for some reasoning as to why michael and others may feel a bit disgusted at GWB's hijinks. and you know, you still haven't responded to my documented bush lie over on the " popular views of the bush admin." thread. just don't want to admit that your boy can tell a lie or do you think the line i cited is just a joke too?