Jon and Shambles, would you mind please moving the conversation to a thread where your perfectly legitimate issues, are relevant? We are trying to discuss a very specific problem behavior that is currently nearing epidemic proportion here, cause largely by obnoxious members.

We aren't suggesting/discussing censorship, as we have stated, censorship isn't the antidote to this problem. Nor is moderation. While creating a well moderated forum back in the day would have circumvented the very problem of which we speak here, discussions of censorship and moderation really aren't relevant anymore in this forum.

The only possible solution to the behavior of obnoxious members, is for members and guests alike who behave well and decently here, to ignore obnoxious members and guests.

Shunning those who engage in the obnoxious behavior would be a swift antidote for those who typically refuse to control themselves (and most of us don't seem to be having much problem coming up with a 'worst offenders' list).