Charley, you'll get no argument from me regarding food animals needing far better treatment. But I very much doubt the majority of vegans/vegetarians are really aware of how damaging their own lifestyle is to the planet. And perhaps you know a circle of very concerned vegans - many of the ones I know live in the city, drive cars, own lots of technology (the newest, therefore their older gear has gone to landfill, most likely), and seem to think stuff like their clothing and the plastic and metal they use comes from fairyland.

Perhaps that's not really fair: one could say at least they are doing something about that section of factory agriculture that involves animals.