Willie oh, sorry for my mis-spelling of Professional, I´ll take my English teacher to task when i get to heaven, I dont think i´m clever and was not starting this thread to provoke thought, merely to have a bit of fun, which everyone seems to be doing. Also, i am a new member and not aware of previous threads. anyway, I totally agree with McArthurs Park, absolute dross, and anything from that odius little cretin Daniel o´donnel, he really makes my skin crawl.