Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj



User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
Nickhere BS: Israeli Jews/Israeli Arabs (372* d) RE: BS: Israeli Jews/Israeli Arabs 14 Jun 08


Robomatic, about those title deeds. I'm fairly sure actual paper title deeds are a relatively recent invention. Prior to that, ownership was mainly done through oral agreement (you'll find many examples of that in the Old Testament, for instance). There were ways of marking out boundaries, even simply using natural landmarks. But in recent centuries some more official documentation was probably required. I don't know that the Ottoman Empire was a housebreaker as such - the Seljuks had established a kingdom in the region as far back as the late 12th or 13th century, and various Muslim tribes (eg. the one under Sal-ad-Din) had held power there for one or two hundred before that.

In one sense, none of us are entitled to anything, if we were to take the Christian message to heart everything would be held in common for the good of all humanity. As Marx said, private property is theft.

The second part of your post "Title deeds ... may my right hand wither..." echoes Teribus' post and suggests you also believe 'might is right' In other words, legal title deeds mean nothing, since so many people have passed through the region, a kind of chicken-and-egg conundrum. The land simply belongs to whoever can take it and hold it.


Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.
   * Click on the linked number with * to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending).

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.