okay well here is the real source of the big fight between dylan and ochs it wasnt positvely 4th street which was a stone radio hit out of the box but its follow up "can you please crawl out of your window" which ochs dismissed as a non hit and he was right but later the same evening dylan kicked ochs out of his limousine telling him (quite rightly at the time) that ochs was "a reporter not a songwriter" . as to ochs sad descent after this time it sure didnt show better songwriting than bob just a slavish attempt to be as good as bob which ochs like so many others didnt come close too doing sorry for all of you who cant hear that .........