"SPB-Cooperator ever heard of people behaving responsibly? Have you got some marked objection to that? ANYONE who has bigger families than they can support quite frankly can be legitimately labelled as "freeloaders" as they have those families in the full expectation that the rest of us have to pay for them, and that any shortfall is "society's" fault.

Anyone making the conscious decision to have a family must do so in such a way as to always have their children's best interests at heart, not secure a living off child support - you get child support/allowance for two children then all after that are your own responsibility. There again personal responsibility is something that "socialists" do not accept - they never have done. "

You are making assumptions that all pregnancies are planned, and the implication of your post that those below a certain income are only getting pregnant to sponge of the stet is reprehensible. Every circumstance is different, it could be through failed contraception, it could be because a partner has forced himself on his wife when he was drunk, it could be complacency that thinking being of a certain age reduces the likelihood of conception.

Rees Mogg is on one hand against those who for example have their 'complete family' - mnaybe teen children, maybe in their forties, and do not feel able to bring up another child - a hard decision to make - and on the other hand withdrawing support form society. So what would you have done to the children who are surplus to societies requirements then????