BS: Iraq Issues Warrant of British Soldiers

Subject: RE: BS: Iraq Issues Warrant of British Soldiers
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 07:39 PM

But we all know just how corrupt the Iraqi Police are - the US media keeps telling us all the time... those soldiers were just really being very inconspicuous trying to spy on the suspects - hey look! it's bad enough that they didn't look physically right, but all that hardware was necessary to give 'local colour' and allow them to blend in - and you know they may just have been attacked by a heavily armed armoured bicycle.

Subject: RE: BS: Iraq Issues Warrant of British Soldiers
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 07:27 PM

Great post McGrath of Harlow. Great answer.

Subject: RE: BS: Iraq Issues Warrant of British Soldiers
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 06:33 PM

Two foreigners dressed in civilian clothes are stopped, and it is found that their car is loaded with weapons. There is a gunfight in which a policeman is shot dead and others wounded. The two men are arrested. Subsequently armed colleagues of the arrested men attack the local jail. In spite of attempts by locals, using makeshift weapons, to prevent them, they break open the jail, and release 150 prisoners, including the two men under arrest.

I think that in most countries this would be likely to lead to some arrest warrants being issued. Just try getting away with that kind of stuff in London or New York...
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There has to be a suspicion about what the two arrested men were up to. Perhaps they were not engaged in some kind of dirty tricks operation, such as have frequently taken place in other conflict situations, but the fact that they were apparently members of the British Army is not sufficient in itself to eliminate such suspicions, and some kind of independent investigation would be appropriate.

Subject: RE: BS: Iraq Issues Warrant of British Soldiers
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 02:56 PM

You can't subject occupying troops to local laws. Occupying troops are the local laws. The Iraqi judge is simply playing politics and trying to show where the real power is.

Subject: RE: BS: IRAQ ISSUES WARRANT OF BRITISH SOLDIERS
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 02:11 PM

I wonder if the same judge will insist on the arrest of the "rioters" responsible for setting a warrior personell carrier on fire? I think that few soldiers in that instance would have reacted in the way the Brits did (not shooting the crowd down). This showed that the soldiers in question were acting with great restraint as they could easily have caused many casualties in the crowd and not been reprimanded for it. I also wonder what plans (if any) are in place for the removal of troops........ sorry, crossing of fingers does not count. Could this be the new Northern Ireland for us?

Subject: RE: BS: IRAQ ISSUES WARRANT OF BRITISH SOLDIERS
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 10:05 AM

International law would make war criminals of virtually all the members of the Bush Administration unilateral war lords as well as the Bilderbergs for conspiracy to murder.

I remember 2 years ago when a judge at the Hague went out on a limb and claimed that Rumsfeld and Bush could face charges in the International Court. It took less than 8 days for that judge to recant and virtually apologize.

I always wondered what kind of intimidation the judge and his country was under. Probably would make a great novel.

Subject: RE: BS: IRAQ ISSUES WARRANT OF BRITISH SOLDIERS
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 08:11 AM

Johnny Howard (Deputy Sheriff of The World!) recently sent some Australian Federal Police to New Guinea to assist them in fighting corruption, etc. The New Guinea Supreme Court ruled as constitutionally invalid (and that the PNG Govt had no authority to make such an agreement) the agreement between the two countries that the Aussies were exempt from any prosecutions. Little Johnny pulled them all out immediately. they have sent a few back in, but they will now have no contact with the public, only serving in an advisory role training other police.

One wonders why a country would not want its citizens to be subject to the normal civilian laws of other countries under International Law unless there is a 'conspiracy' to destroy International Law, or something... too much 'Southern Hospitality' (Mint Juleps?) with Bush?

Subject: RE: BS: IRAQ ISSUES WARRANT OF BRITISH SOLDIERS
From: akenaton
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 05:13 AM

A political as well as a military quagmire.

The Shia clerics will want to retain UK military presence until their power has been guaranteed by adoption of the new constitution.
Then the real trouble will start.

As I said long ago the Iraqi elections have much more to do with factional power than democracy.

There seems to be no end to the short sightedness of the people who started this conflict. Other posters have remarked on the short term nature of Western political thought, and in Iraq they have been proved correct time and again.

Subject: BS: IRAQ ISSUES WARRANT OF BRITISH SOLDIERS
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 04:39 AM

I see a judge in Iraq has issued an arrest warrant for two British soldiers who shot dead an Iraqi civilian and wounded others. The MOD has said British soldiers are immune from proecution in Iraqi civilian courts. How does this not surprise us.