BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 16 May 05 - 08:12 PM

Following up on McGrath's thought, this reminds me of the Dan Rather-CBS/ bush National Guard Service brouhaha- NO ONE officially pursued the fact that the information given in those memos was correct. Instead they leaped on the fact that it appeared that someone had painstakingly copied the information, trying to make it look like the original.

When will we learn to focus on the central issue?

And NO. It has nothing to do with Liberal or Conservative points of view. It has to do with what is truth.

I keep being surprised by how little attention the neo-cons pay to what is right, what is truthful, what is ethical and moral.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 16 May 05 - 07:34 PM

There is no "liberal media". Just corporate media that does whatever it sees as being in its be$t intere$t$.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 May 05 - 07:30 PM

Does Newsweek count as "Liberal Media"? From what I've seen it looks pretty mainstream, the kind of publication that at least aspires towards the principle that it is right to avoid mixing up news and comment. Or does that count as "liberal"?

What's not clear is to what extent the allegations involved are actually true or not. They don't sound particularly improbable, sadly enough, in the light of what actually has come out from the American Gulag, including the Abu Ghraib photographs.

I would think that the significant thing for the people involved in the disturbances would not have been what some White House spokesperson said, one way or another, nor for that matter what some American publication printed, but whether they believed that things like this, which have been widely reported, had actually happened. Clearly they did believe that.

"Soldiers Killed" - so far it hasn't been actually soldiers getting killed, from what I've seen.

Here's what seems to me a pretty balanced report on all this, putting it into context.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 16 May 05 - 07:27 PM

It's true. They all lie. They're all just a bunch of media whores and pimps. And all of the politicians and bureaucrats and military people lie, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 16 May 05 - 07:05 PM

You want to know about false press getting people killed, Hub-me-lad, calculate the number who have been left bleeding to death in the sand as a direct result of the false information fed to and promoted by the Bush media machine all through the ramp-up to this war.

You've got some nerve twisting the picture like that, I must say; the bloodthirstiness of the Bush, Rice, Rove and their ilk has been responsible for more murder, torture and rape than anyone since Saddam Hussein's bully boys. Thanks for your vote; a pity you now pretend to have a conscience about unnecessary deaths, given that you helped to put the author of so many of them back into office.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:55 PM

Unverified stories have always been the key to the "success" of the American media, liberal or conservative (however you care to define those terms). Taking a story that comes from an "inside source" and printing it as factual is just as bad as doing the same with an Administration press release ("an unnamed Whitehouse source says that..."). Just remember, the real reason the media exists is to sell SUVs, toothpaste and tampons, and the more readers they have, the more they sell.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:51 PM

Both sides are lying.

Both sides lie in war.

Get used to it.

Figure the truth out for yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:42 PM

Well with what's been said and the history of the media and it's reporting, how can we truly believe that the story WAS EVER verified?
Just because they lied once means that we can believe them now since they admitted it?

Hubby

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:29 PM

They did verify it. But the source they were using within the Pentagon changed his/her story after Newsweek published it. First the source said he/she saw documentation of abuses of the Koran. Then, after the story ran (and after a lot of people got killed), he/she changed his/her story and said he/she wasn't exactly sure whether or not he/she saw it.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:22 PM

US govt 1599, liberal media 1

Subject: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: Susu's Hubby
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:20 PM

Here we go again. This time, it seems that our distinguished liberal media, in the effort to continue to paint the current campaign in Afghanistan and Iraq as being bad, has now put our troops in harms way by not verifying a story before it ran. How many troops will be harmed because of this little gem?
In the meantime, the editors at Newsweek, while sitting in the safety of their offices, have issued an apology, not a retraction but an apology for the story. They say that even though they can't prove that it did happen, they also can't prove that it didn't.
This is like a creationist and an evolutionist arguing the existence of God. But this time, they're putting the lives of our troops directly in danger.
It's amazing to see liberals in action and their distrust in the US gov't and the military.
Now, just do as you do and tell us why the inaccurate and misleading story from Newsweek is all Bush's fault.


Hubby



This is the ultimate in irresponsibility