BS: What constitutes a bad post?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST,Badposter
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 12:30 PM

Weeeeeeeeelll

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 11:20 AM

As a parenthetical statement, nothing GUEST said means a thing to me, because if that person had wanted to make an impact, he/she would have posted under his/her own name. I have never liked those who won't stand behind their words. I doubt that will change.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 08 Dec 04 - 12:22 AM

You gay, Gargoyle? You seem to follow me around. I don't mind people being gay, but just so's ya know, I'm not. Now, run along.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 08 Dec 04 - 12:18 AM

Ahhh....reminds me of the LaughKitty's early wicked days on the MC.

Well done Joe - you have the child confined pretty much to one thread.

With over 20 brucie postings he is doing a good job of playing with himself.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

More "trolling"..... you going to "bite-the-big-one" brucie - or can you count to ten?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 08 Dec 04 - 12:08 AM

Well, after a few days of 'self-restraint' and a few remarks from a wonderful friend, I think I can answer the question. I am not going to, but I think I could if I had to. Because it's a personal thing, it kinda leaves each to find the way that works. I found one and I'll make it mine.

As a parenthetical statement, nothing GUEST said means a thing to me, because if that person had wanted to make an impact, he/she would have posted under his/her own name. I have never liked those who won't stand behind their words. I doubt that will change.

For the rest of you, many thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: michaelr
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 08:35 PM

This is what I call a bad post:


LilyFestre, CarolC has at least three orifices below her waist that face south.

which one do you think her head is stuck in?


This sort of thing should be deleted.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 06:34 PM

Brucie, honestly - I've never beat anybody up. Well, except Joe, but only once and he didn't even need an ambulance. Joe doesn't like to fight, so it really isn't too much fun

The not speaking thing I hope isn't intentional, because it's not on my part. I don't usually think I have that much to say - I'm not avoiding you. I also hope I meet you sometime in the future. I think when we look at people through pixelated glasses, they all look at least somewhat worse than they are in real life. I really do believe in humor, though. It sometimes pisses people off, but at least I'm laughing. I once had a friend who would laugh at me when I was over the top or getting upset for silly reasons. Eventually, I'd see how my own seriousness and anger was funny. He's not around, and I miss that weird sense of humor.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 03:53 PM

One day, a chap called Pete complained to his friend, "My elbow really hurts, I think I'll go and see my Doctor!"
His friend immediately replied

"Don't do that, there's a new computer at Boots [chemist/drugstore] that can diagnose anything quicker and cheaper than your doctor.
All you do is put in a sample of your piss and the computer will diagnose your problem and tell you what to do."

Pete, figuring that he had nothing to lose, filled a jar with his piss,
went to Boots where he found the computer and deposited his sample and the computer started making a few noises and some lights started to flash.

After a brief pause, out popped a small piece of paper which read:

YOU HAVE TENNIS ELBOW, SOAK YOUR ARM IN WATER THREE TIMES A DAY FOR AN HOUR.
AVOID HEAVY WORK. YOUR ELBOW WILL GET BETTER IN TWO WEEKS.

That evening while thinking about how amazing this new technology was and how it could change the world of medicine forever,
he began to wonder if the computer could be fooled.
He decided to try.

He mixed together some tap water, engine oil from his car, a stool sample from his dog,
urine samples from his wife and her son, and, at the last minute,
jerked off into the concoction.

He went back to Boots, deposited the sample and paid his money.

After the noises and lights, out popped a piece of paper which read:

YOUR TAP WATER IS HARD, GET A SOFTNER. THE VALVES ON YOUR ENGINE ARE FUCKED, GET IT TO A GARAGE.
YOUR DOG HAS WORMS, GET HIM TO A VET. YOUR SON IS HOOKED ON COCAINE, GET HIM TO REHAB.
YOUR WIFE IS PREGNANT WITH TWINS, THEY ARE NOT YOURS, GET A LAWYER.
AND IF YOU DON'T STOP WANKING, YOUR ELBOW WILL NEVER GET BETTER.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 01:53 PM

Boast pad

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 01:32 PM

We don't speak, so no.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 12:50 PM

Well, yeah, Brucie - but doesn't she scare you a little bit?

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 12:39 PM

Really nice philosophy.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: MMario
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 12:38 PM

Now I understand why Joe was cowering in the corner of the cabin...and I thought he was just cold!

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 11:56 AM

It has been shown by studies done at Wattsupuid U. that 89% of all human arguments (including those on the internet) depend upon a defensive reaction to a stimulus for argument initialization to occur. They theorised that, should the reaction (if there was a reaction at all) not be defensive in nature, the argument might never occur, in effect, achieving the same results as the classic IRYG* response, causing the stimulus-providing individual or individuals to reclaim their spherical glass objects and return to their place of abode.

Therefore, possible replies to the stimulus which may be effective in preventing argument development include:
"Sure, fine, whatever," "I think it's commendable you have an opinion on the matter." and the classic, ".........................."

Please note that "I am NOT!" "You first!" "Make me!" or "I am not going to reply to you, do you hear me!? You just want to make me mad, and that really pisses me off, so I am NOT going to get mad and I am NOT going to talk to you anymore! I'll talk to the OTHER people...Hey, you other people, don't think Elmer is a wanker? He keeps trying to bother me, but he really doesn't. He wants me to respond to him, but I won't! Watch this - I won't even notice him."

*I'm rubber, you're glue; everything you say bounces of me and sticks to you.

---

In the end, you have to ask yourself what good your post might do vs. what harm, and why you want other people to read it. What will readers across the globe get from my words, now and for however long Mudcat exists?

In the end, remember, humor is your friend! (And 'growing up' is for other people, as far as I'm concerned.)

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 04:25 AM

Brucie, when she bops you upside the head, it's gonna hurt!!! I know, from first-hand experience. I've learned to cower in corners at the Getaway, whenever I see Jeri....
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 09:11 PM

Brucie is the MAN!

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 08:52 PM

What constitutes a bad post?

Probably one that wishes to pass judgement on a thread and it contributors - but is not brave enough to refresh the thread and put it back to the top.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 08:49 PM

My suggestion about posting with a link indicates a way in which people who have their posts blocked, rightly or wrongly, can still have their say. They could even use it to find out if anyone else agreed with them that some post should not have been blocked or removed. I think that would be good enough for me, should that ever happen to a post I felt strongly about.

Well let's examine the logic of your suggestion of the use of other sites and turn it around a little.

Over time - many folk are attracted this particular open discussion forum. In my case it was refreshing to find a place where pedants did not hold sway, and where there were few if any rules imposed. The credit for this was mainly Max's but long-term contributors like Joe certainly helped to encourage this atmosphere - which in turn attracted more people and so on.

Over time - and for whatever reason. Disatisfaction is expressed by some which has now reached a point where we now find ourselves with hard-and fast rules and a ruling elite to impose their judgement upon everyone else (in order to protect us from us). There would also appear to be many who support this (not that they are given much choice) and seem to think that all this has something to do with the spirit that has made this forum the fine place - that despite all these fairly recent imposed measures - it still just about manages to be.

But it is time to accept that there IS only one direction that the forum is headed - towards more of this overt control, more rules, more needless division and more pedantic imposed judgement and not away from it. With the idea expressed of - well if you don't like (what 'we' have now turned it into) - you can go somewhere else or start your own site.

Perhaps those who find fault with most aspects of an open forum and who have now taken over control - those who make and impose the rules and judgement and who do not seem to like this open discussion forum to be a place where open discussion is tolerated and permitted to take place - and those that support all this - should really be the ones encouraged to start their own site?

One where the rules could be placed up-front and if they like - they can moan and introduce a new rule every day.

Let us get this straight - I (like many others) like this open discussion forum. I accept the downside of this openess and I do NOT moan about this. Perhaps those that do consantly moan and find fault with the freedom of Max's original concept (always so crucial to The Mudcat Forum) can please put all of their pedantry, control, judgement and moans - on another website and leave the rest of us alone?

If not - perhaps and for start - they can stop telling others to go away and work towards a return to the inclusive spirit that still struggles to survive on Max's and our - fine open discussion forum?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 04:00 PM

Kevin,

Not irritation. Maybe more a disappointment. Reminds me of kids who decide to tease someone to see if they'll get a reaction. What does that say about the people involved? You may read whatever you wish into what I said; I notice you have anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST,waiting for just one person to grow up
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 04:00 PM

This is just what I mean.

Ah well. People don't change until they're ready to change.

I'm done.

Good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 03:58 PM

You presume to lecture me but do not have the decency to say who you are. Talk the talk but not walk the walk. Have a nice day.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 03:53 PM

How about it starts with you, whoever you are.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST,waiting for just one person to grow up
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 03:49 PM

Man, talk about falling on deaf ears!

"do you just say things without admitting to having said them and because your words are wise expect compliance?"

If there's any wisdom in there for you, isn't that enough?

I'm a mudcat regular who just doesn't want the "wrath of brucie" to follow me around, but really needed to say what I said.

You're a good bloke brucie, when you're not on a roll. But it doesn't take much to get you on a roll.

But don't worry, you're not alone. I just thought you might be open to the idea of real change. It has to start with someone..but not with a ten day ultimatum.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 03:37 PM

A touch of irritation there, brucie...

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 02:11 PM

"Brucie, you're like a child saying "I'm gonna be good for ten days, and if everybody doesn't change as well by then, well...you're all gonna DESERVE IT if I get nasty again. SO THERE!"

Who are you? Do you have a name? Do you lack the courage of your convictions? That is, do you just say things without admitting to having said them and because your words are wise expect compliance? Huh. Interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 02:06 PM

Of course, without knowing the 'quality' or 'character' of the person posting, I shan't be able to evaluate your advice. So, as I said, I'll see. Thank you again.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 02:04 PM

Thank you so much for your advice--whoever you are.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST,waiting for just one person to grow up
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 02:02 PM

"and then I see"

Brucie, you're like a child saying "I'm gonna be good for ten days, and if everybody doesn't change as well by then, well...you're all gonna DESERVE IT if I get nasty again. SO THERE!"

Advice; just grow up, stop getting pissed off at other people. It's about YOU being mature, not daring everyone else to be.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 11:43 AM

Jeri can do as she chooses. That's her call. My was to be cool for eight more days, and then I see.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 03:56 AM

"We" means it was done by more than one person, or done by an individual in consultation with others. Most Mudcat editorial decisions fall into this category.

Can I request that to avoid confusion - that any future editorial insertions (in what ever colour chosen) are confined to the above....[I was going to say 'brown editorial insertions' - but that       sounded more than a little crude and perhaps just like another way of saying 'bullshit'?]

If this convention is always followed - that will leave our volunteers free to use 'I' or indeed 'we or 'us' in conventional postings that do bring the thread back to the top. This convention will then always make it clear, when opinions expressed by our volunteers, are their own personal ones and which (after proper consultation) will always have full editorial weight behind them.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 02:16 AM

As far as deletions not working, I used to work in Public Health and disease intervention was a big thing. Someone had a communicable disease, and we got involved to prevent the spread. You likely would have said we were ineffective, since we still had cases of the disease. We couldn't have proved you wrong, since there was no way to know what was prevented, and therefore, didn't happen.

We are not talking here about measures to prevent disease from spreading. If we were the focus would be on encouraging folk (mainly by example) not to respond. And that is a positive measure I fully support and have encouraged for many years.

The measure of deleting contributions only after they appear, have done their 'damage' and been brought to our volunteer's attention for subsequent deletion can not be considered as a measure to prevent anything. It is prbably more akin to surgery. Which is sometimes used to prevent the spread of a disease or infection in an idividual case - but on its own, does litte to generally prevent the disease itself.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 09:53 PM

hey!...I just went looking for a 'color selector' and found this little beauty!

It will allow you to determine the RGB of any color you see, OR to move the sliders around till you find a color you like!...and lots more... what fun...post in colors no one else uses..*grin*
if you want it, and want to avoid the 6 step download from sourceforge. here is the download link

http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/colorselector/cs3.zip

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:24 PM

My dictionary says puce is dark or brownish purple, but Bill's puce is more the color I envision. But hey, if it ain't in the Crayola basic 8 colors, I really can't tell one color from another. I've worn bottle-green and navy blue and dark brown pants for years before I discovered they weren't black. I always make sure The Missus double-checks what I'm wearing before we get into the car, so she won't make us late sending me back to change clothes.
They seem to match perfectly to me, but women always seem to think otherwise.

Oh, and Bruce - I'm on the don't-respond-to-Shambles prohibition for a lifetime. Why shouldn't your interdict last just as long? jeri's gonna get ya.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:21 PM

"you're responsible if brucie or anyone else slips"

I don't break my word. I will be cool for nine days.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:05 PM

but I believe this is puce...

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:03 PM

unfortunately, Puce is not listed

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:00 PM

I'm flattered that you guys live in fear of me and my head bopping skills! Joe, you're the control freakazoid around here. If you're going to do the dictator thing, then you're responsible if brucie or anyone else slips and you get bopped.

Also, Joe, 'light purple' is lavender, isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:00 PM

by coincidence, I just happened on a website today which allows Mozilla Firefox users to refer to colors ....http://www.andreabinello.com/resources/webcolornames/

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 07:28 PM

No slips for nine days. She bopped me up the head once and that was the end of that. Remains so to this day and will for the future. However, I shant slip. A promise is a promise.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 07:25 PM

Hey, I thought puce was a light purple color.

Now, Brucie, maybe this will help you: I have to work really hard to ignore Shambles, because if I respond to Shambles, Jeri will bop me upside the head....

So for every time I slip and respond to Shambles, you can slip and respond to a troll (but then Jeri will bop you upside the head, too - and she'll probaby bop me, too, just for good measure).

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 06:28 PM

I think Batman is gay.

cocksucker.    (whispered)

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 04:43 PM

Day 1 and not a nasty thing said to a soul.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 12:02 PM

Of course the colour of a conventional posting is not at issue.

The point is that a conventional posting will bring the thread back up to the top. An insertion (usually in brown) for Joe to make his judgement and 'editorial' comments - will not do this.

This is not an ability open to all of 'us'.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 11:12 AM

I thought Batman's suit was black.

LH, I could, but it would take way too much time.

jOhn: because.

Joe, Jeez. Just type 'puce' instead of 'brown'.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 10:51 AM

Maybe I should make comments in puce. Anybody know how to do puce?
Batman's suit is puce, and sometimes I feel like Batman.
If I had been Batman, I wouldn't have let Nicole Kidman slip away.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 10:45 AM

I believe Jeri's public health analogy is right on. Hear, hear!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 10:37 AM

waht you writingf in diffrent colours for then?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 10:34 AM

Nice, but can you do candy-striped, like a barber pole?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 10:24 AM

I never thought of it as 'superior brown'. I'm not sensitive to that sort of thing though. I figure anybody can use any color they want to, and you wouldn't want people mistaking what Joe said for what the poster said when Joe replies in a post...which I'm also not sensitive too, by the way.

Shambles sez:
"The interesting, sad and most telling point - is that the words 'we' or 'I' used by you - never appears to mean 'us' anymore."

Is this, in fact, NOT a song by Neil Diamond? Does it not go something like:

It's a sad and telling point
My heart, this day, is sore
That 'you' and 'I' when used by you--
I've seen the clue, I know it's true,
I'm blue too, and I do rue--
You don't mean 'us' no more.

Now, what's the rest of it?

Seriously, I'm bored by the usual pointless excuse for verbosity, and hyper-defensive control-freakoutery and molehill mountainization. Quibbling about pronoun use and font colors is still pointless, but at least it's a bit different.

Us enjoy this difference, and us thank you for the shift.

As far as deletions not working, I used to work in Public Health and disease intervention was a big thing. Someone had a communicable disease, and we got involved to prevent the spread. You likely would have said we were ineffective, since we still had cases of the disease. We couldn't have proved you wrong, since there was no way to know what was prevented, and therefore, didn't happen.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 09:40 AM

"We" bears the same relation to "us" as "I" does to "me".

It's all to do with the grammatical structure of the English language.

The thing is, I occasionally we see posts that had better been deleted, but I don't see these deleted posts that shouldn't have been deleted. I think that probably appllies to most of us who congregate around the Mudcat watering hole. Maybe there really are lots of these unfairly excised posts, as Shambles seems asserts from time to time to time and again.         

It seems to me an excellent way to settle this would be for him to set up a website where they can be made available for people to examine at leisure. Simple, elegant and effective.