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BS: Your favourite western film

Ed T 14 May 10 - 06:02 PM
Little Hawk 14 May 10 - 11:49 AM
McGrath of Harlow 14 May 10 - 11:37 AM
GUEST 14 May 10 - 11:17 AM
Allan C. 14 May 10 - 06:03 AM
Stilly River Sage 14 May 10 - 12:34 AM
Seamus Kennedy 13 May 10 - 11:44 PM
Don Firth 13 May 10 - 05:58 PM
ClaireBear 13 May 10 - 04:12 PM
RangerSteve 13 May 10 - 03:53 PM
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alanabit 13 May 10 - 03:25 PM
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GUEST,Neil D 13 May 10 - 12:00 PM
VirginiaTam 13 May 10 - 08:57 AM
Mr Happy 13 May 10 - 08:38 AM
3refs 13 May 10 - 07:58 AM
GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) 13 May 10 - 06:00 AM
Little Hawk 12 May 10 - 03:40 PM
Ernest 12 May 10 - 03:14 PM
bankley 12 May 10 - 02:34 PM
Skivee 12 May 10 - 02:16 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Ed T
Date: 14 May 10 - 06:02 PM

What's thebest gun fight scenes

was in Once Upon a time in the West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ4bNTU965E&feature=PlayList&p=F9EC779603550A4A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=28




Or, Tombstone, the gunfight at OK Coral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vsmpGfB9Q


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 May 10 - 11:49 AM

That is one hell of a busy western town...


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 May 10 - 11:37 AM

Unquestionably my favourite clip from a western


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: GUEST
Date: 14 May 10 - 11:17 AM

the Seven Samuri.

Further west than Hollywood and the original.

And more magnificent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Allan C.
Date: 14 May 10 - 06:03 AM

For the life of me I cannot remember the name of my all-time favorite western. One scene in it may jog someone else's memory and maybe they can put me out of my misery of forgetfulness. In the film, probably made some 15 years ago or so, the requisite young and beautiful woman is pining away her lonely life as she maintains a stagecoach rest stop. From time to time she writes down her feelings on little strips of her petticoat, ties them to tumbleweeds, and casts them to the wind. Naturally, the hero stumbles upon one of these messaged weeds. There was some really great fiddle playing in this film, whatever it was ...

Another favorite is "The Man From Snowy River". My favorite scene is when the young hero rides down a mountainside at full gallop. The angle at which he rides is unbelievably steep, but the trees around him are evidence of the fantastic angle. I really don't care that it was probably a stunt double doing the riding. Anyone who could ride like that has my deepest admiration. BTW, the scenery in the film was absolutely lovely!

I also very much like John Wayne's "Cowboys". Dunno why.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 May 10 - 12:34 AM

One of the strangest movies I've seen, and it is kind of like a Cormac-McCarthy-before-he-headed-west sort of story, but out of Carson McCullers (and Edward Albee), is The Ballad of the Sad Cafe. Vanessa Redgrave, Keith Carradine, and Cork Hubbert. It seems like a demented Western, even though it is apparently set in the rural South.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 13 May 10 - 11:44 PM

See? See? I told you; ALL of 'em!~ Yes!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 May 10 - 05:58 PM

Yeah!! Great one, Ranger Steve!

Quigley Down Under.

Good movie. Some really great lines!!

Marston (Australian rancher played by Alan Rickman) hires American sharpshooter Quigley (Tom Selleck) to shoot varmints on his property (big ranch or "station"). Quigley asks what kind of varmints. You don't hear Marston's answer, but the next thing you see is Marston crashing through his own front door, bouncing off the porch, and landing butt-upwards in the dirt. He gets up, and enraged, says, "Nobody throws me out of my own house!" and charges back in. A few seconds later, Marston comes crashing though a window and again winds up face down in the dirt.

It seems that the "varmints" Marston wants killed are the hundreds if not thousands of Australian Aborigines in the area, who often appear on "his property." They never seem to do much, they just appear on the hillside above Marston's station (hundreds of them) and they stand there and look. Then they disappear. But it is kinda spooky.

Killing people? Not what Quigley thought he was hiring on for and he takes umbrage at this. Marston takes umbrage that Quigley takes umbrage. He has his bully-boys beat the crap out of Quigley and dump him out in the desert for dead.

Crazy Cora (Laura San Giaccomo—it's hard not to fall in love with Crazy Cora) manages to find him, bruised and bleeding in the desert, and tries to console him by saying,
"Don't worry, on a new job it's quite common for things not to go well at first."
A couple of good conversations:
Crazy Cora:   You know, if we're lost, you can tell me.
Quigley:   We're lost.
Crazy Cora:   I can take bad news. Just tell me straight.
Quigley:   I don't know where the hell we are.
Crazy Cora:   No sense takin' time to make it sound better than it is.
Quigley:   I reckon we're goin' in circles.
Crazy Cora:   Wire things up and I'll see right through. So, just tell me honestly. Are we lost?
Quigley:   Nope. I know exactly where we are.
Crazy Cora:   That's good, 'cause, frankly, I was gettin' a little worried.
And with a British major. He and his troops wander in and out at various times during the movie.
Major Ashley-Pitt:   In our experience, Americans are uncouth misfits who should be run out of their own barbaric country.
Quigley:   Well, Lieutenant...
Major Ashley-Pitt:   Major.
Quigley:   Major. We already run the misfits outta our country. We sent 'em back to England.
Quigley and Crazy Cora find an Aboriginal child, toddler barely more than an infant, wandering in the desert. They're not about to let him die out there, so they take him with them, hoping to find out who he belongs to and return him to his parents. They find a store and get some supplies. Quigley buys Crazy Cora a new dress.

They're riding along and Crazy Cora is carrying the child. Quigley tells Crazy Cora that he's going to go and "get" Marston. Crazy Cora doesn't think that's a good idea.
Crazy Cora:   I don't want you to go.
Quigley:   You sure look pretty in that new blue dress.
Crazy Cora:   If you go after Marston, he'll kill you!
Quigley:   Kid, next time she talks like that, pee all over the dress.
The final confrontation between Quigley and Marston is equally "off the wall," but I won't blow it. It's very satisfying.

All in all, it's one helluva fun movie.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: ClaireBear
Date: 13 May 10 - 04:12 PM

I'm with Tami and Tam on "High Plains Drifter." I'm also a fan of another surreal film, "The Seven Faces of Dr. Lao," which isn't quite a western but takes place in the same setting. And, as Huw mentioned, "The Long Riders" -- if only for the music.

And yes, there are certainly others...


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: RangerSteve
Date: 13 May 10 - 03:53 PM

Don't know how I managed to post the above, but I wasn't ready to. My list continues:
The Outlaw Josie Wales
Shane
Westward the Women
Bad Bascomb - an obscure movie with Wallace Beery, one of my favorite actors.
Any other western with Wallace Beery
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
My Little Chickadee - it takes place out west, so it's a western.
True Grit, dispite the fact that Glen Campbell's acting was so bad, he couldn't convey the concept of falling if you pushed him off a cliff. (Not mine, I stole it from Dave Barry).
Quigley Down Under - ok, it's an Australian with an AMerican cowboy, it's an almost-western. Alan Rickman is the villain, and I'm starting to believe that anything with Rickman is worth watching.
There are more, but I can't think of them right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: RangerSteve
Date: 13 May 10 - 03:44 PM

Some of these may have been mentioned before, but here goes:
The Hanging Tree
High Noon
Cat Ballou


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: alanabit
Date: 13 May 10 - 03:25 PM

I do not think Sterling Hayden was the only screen cowboy, who performed ingloriously at the MacCarthy hearings. Did not Gary Cooper also snitch on some of his mates?


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: steve in ottawa
Date: 13 May 10 - 12:57 PM

Approximate quote from True Grit:

Glen Campbell (to the orphan Mattie): ...sometimes we had to drink out of hoof-prints!
John Wayne: If I ever meet a Texas ranger who hasn't drunk out of a hoof-print I'll shake his hand.

Sadly though, I'd have to say my favourite Western was:
Oklahoma!

"...by summer they'll be running out of ice..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 13 May 10 - 12:00 PM

I also used to like Sterling Hayden, but not so much after finding out he had been a friendly witness at the McCarthy hearings, including the naming of names. To his credit Hayden subsequently repudiated his own cooperation with the Committee, stating in his autobiography "I don't think you have the foggiest notion of the contempt I have had for myself since the day I did that thing."
    In contrast there's another very fine western directed in 1969 by Abraham Polonsky , his first movie in over 20 years after being blacklisted for being an un-friendly witness to HUAC(House Un-American Activities Committee). Coincidentally, both Hayden and Polonsky had served in the OSS (forerunner to the CIA) during WWII. "Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here" tells the true story of Paiute Indian outlaw Willie Boy (Robert Blake) who escapes with his lover, Lola (Katharine Ross) after killing her father in self defense. According to tribal custom Willie can then claim Lola as his wife. According to the law, Deputy Sheriff Cooper (Robert Redford) is required to charge him with murder. Polonsky makes it an allegory of racism, genocide and persecution.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 13 May 10 - 08:57 AM

High Plains Drifter and Blazing Saddles


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Mr Happy
Date: 13 May 10 - 08:38 AM

Wayb out West

The Palefacehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg2C_EIea0&feature=PlayList&p=9903415265A0453E&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=1


Son of Paleface


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: 3refs
Date: 13 May 10 - 07:58 AM

It's rather fitting that "The Shootist" was John Wayne's last movie.

Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
Cat Ballou(for Marvin, the music and the horse)

No mention of "City Slickers". Kind of a western, and Jack Palance's performance was well worth the Academy Award!


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 13 May 10 - 06:00 AM

Eagle's Wing
Monte Walsh
Bend Of The River
The Tall T


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:40 PM

100!!!!!!!!!!!

Beatcha to the draw that time, pard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Ernest
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:14 PM

Like Seamus, I like a lot of them....

Some that haven`t been mentioned yet would be

"Jeremiah Johnson" starring Robert Redford as Liver-eating Johnson,

"The Mountain Man" starring Charlton Heston,

"The Trap" starring Oliver Reed (Beauty & the Beast gone west),

"The Big Sky" starring Kirk Douglas,

"Man in the wilderness" starring Ed Harris as Zack Bass = Hugh Glass

"Geroinmo" starring Wes Studi, Robert Duvall,

...


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: bankley
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:34 PM

The Winnetou series. filmed in Yugoslavia for German audiences about the American Southwest circa 1880. Lex Barker played Old Shatterhand


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Skivee
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:16 PM

I'm throwing in my belated support for "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance".
One of the best movies of the fifties. I'm not a huge John Wayne fan, but he's acting in this one is stunning. In fact the whole cast was stellar. The score, cinematography, directing, and script were all highest quality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: bubblyrat
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:24 AM

I can't remember the title,but there was a slightly odd Western starring Sterling Hayden as a Swedish immigrant who fought a gunman in the street in the film's climax,armed only with a whaling harpoon !! Anyone remember that one ??

Another good Western starring Sterling Hayden ,and which I enjoyed,was " Johnny Guitar". ( I liked Sterling Hayden !)

Yet another good film,that I only distantly recall,was called ( I think !!) "The Squatter", or something like that,and was about a man on his own,holding off a whole horde of gunmen/ soldiers/ a posse, whatever,who were trying to evict him from his farmhouse at the end of a valley. Ring any bells with our American cousins ??


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: J-boy
Date: 12 May 10 - 12:15 AM

Serenity? You'd better gorramm believe it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 May 10 - 07:16 PM

Winchester '73.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 11 May 10 - 07:10 PM

Nobody has mentioned '100 rifles' I*'m not suprised. After all the build up the promised 'revolutionary'sex scenes between Raquel Welch and Jim Brown, it was a huge disappointment, despite a good performance from Burt Reynolds as Yacqui Joe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 06:08 PM

I just remembered "Red-Headed Stranger" and "Barbarossa" and "Honeysuckle Rose". They all starred Willie Nelson, and they were all great. The last one is about a country music player. The first two are westerns.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:49 PM

The Last Days Of Frank And Jesse James - With a musical cast.
Starring Johnny Cash as Frank and Kris Kristofferson as Jesse. It also starred June Carter and David Allan Coe.

Also: Young Guns and Young Guns 2, starring Emilio Estevez. I liked
those movies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Dave Swan
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:28 PM

Another mention of John Ford. Here's the co-star of his best westerns, Monument Valley.

The Gray Fox also deserves a place on this list.

D


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:18 PM

My favorite Western film?
ALL OF THEM!
I'm completely indiscriminate; I love them all, good bad, indifferent, comic, tragic. If it's got cowboys and horses. I love it.

OK, except the Wm. Shatner one, which I've seen; but then again, it's so bad it's good.

Now a new thread or change the direction of this one:
my favorite TV westerns: The Range Rider starring Jock Mahoney and Dick Jones; Bronco starring Ty Hardin; Gunsmoke with James Arness et al; Maverick with James Garner, Jack Kelly and Roger Moore; and loads of others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Ed T
Date: 11 May 10 - 04:55 PM

I liked John Candy, and am very forgiving with westerns. But, to me Wagon's East was a real stinker.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 03:25 PM

Odd that they would call a quintessentially German western bargirl character "Frenchie", isn't it? Yeah, that's a great scene all right. Nobody had more spark than Marlene Dietrich.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: alanabit
Date: 11 May 10 - 03:08 PM

Has anyone mentioned "The Shootist" yet? That was one of the best I have ever seen. Lauren Bacall gave an excellent perfornmance and both John Wayne and James Stewart were in cracking form. It had the theme of a gunfighter, who had outlived his time and had to face death with dignity. It may have been John Wayne's best ever film.
Someone mentioned "Destry Rides Again" earlier, which is another of my favourites. Marlene Dietrich's punch up as "Frenchie" at the end is one of my favourite western scenes.
Two oddball westerns of the early seventies, both of which I enjoyed, were "Hannie Caulder" starring Raquel Welsh as a raped widow turned gunfighter seeking revenge and the comedy "The Legend of Frenchie King", with the unlikely leading roles for Brigitte Bardot and Claudia Cardinale. The latter, by the way, was in "The Professionals", which was another half decent film with an all star cast including Burt Lancaster.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:06 PM

Jill of the San Francisco Coasters?


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: GUEST,John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:51 AM

My top 5, pretty much in order:
The Searchers
Warlock
Ride the High Country
My Darling Clementine
Fort Apache
JotSC


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:42 AM

Hud was a modern western. I think it's Paul Newman's finest film.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:20 AM

I meant to include Hud in my list.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 May 10 - 09:45 AM

The real Little Big Man shared responsibility for the killing of Tȟašúŋke Witkó at Ft. Robinson; there is some thought that he may have killed him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: ranger1
Date: 11 May 10 - 09:31 AM

First the classics:
Shane
True Grit
The Magnificent Seven

Now the Spaghetti Westerns:
A Fistful of Dollars
High Plains Drifter
Hang 'em High
(OK, so I'm a HUGE Clint Eastwood fan)

And the more modern ones:
Lonesome Dove
Appaloosa
Dances With Wolves


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 11 May 10 - 08:31 AM

I'm surprised it too so long for anyone to mention "Destry Rides Again" - Dietrich even had the same songwriter as in "Blue Angel".


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: bubblyrat
Date: 11 May 10 - 07:00 AM

The Kevin Costner version of "Wyatt Earp".

    Best title music ?? By Bernstein, for "The Scalphunters" ( Burt Lancaster).

"Valdez is Coming ".........I guess it qualifies as a "Western" ??

   ...... and "Cato's Land", of course !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:33 AM

Gotta be "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" for me... it has everything in it..... you son of a BAAAYAAAAYYAAAAAAA


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: IanC
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:01 AM

Missing out John Wayne, it'd have to be "The Life & Times OF Judge Roy Bean".


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: IanC
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:00 AM

I think I really like John Wayne's "Angel And The Badman" best. It's so funny, and it's full of Quakers.

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 11 May 10 - 01:37 AM

Little Bigman...and if you felt it was intended as historic realism, you missed the point
The Big Country
Ulzana's Raid (the absolute best depiction of war between the US Cavalry and the Apache)
The Hi-lo Country
Missouri Breaks(Brando's looney regulator versus Nicholson's likeable rustler)
Lonesome Dove
One-eyed Jacks
Brokeback Mountain
Lonely are the Brave
Shane
Dances w Wolves


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: LadyJean
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:49 AM

I enjoy John Ford's cavalry movies, also the original "Stagecoach" with John Carradine among the passengers, and "Liberty Valence".
"Two Mules for Sister Sarah" is fun.
I only saw the opening scene of "The Terror of Tiny Town", the western made with a cast of little people. It was impressively bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:22 AM

John Wayne made a few singing cowboy flicks...all seriously unmemorable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:40 PM

Art film ????

Someone mentioned Little Big Man- hard to beat for worst western.

They never had much of a plot (if any) but some of the old singing horse operas weren't too bad. Sitting with the gang, making comments and being told to shush or get out. A gal always showed up and smiled at the guy singing to her. He would part from her, and tears would come to her eyes. Then he would ride off and we would cheer. Coyote howls, rude noises if the cowboy sang to the gal- no one ever heard all of the song.

Now they don't make westerns like that any more......


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:57 PM

Isn't it amazing how they managed to shoot those scenes in "White Comanche" and convince you totally that there were two separate Shatners fighting each other? That is high class cinematography at its ultimate, let me tell you. I bet they spent a fortune on it. It's strange that it didn't reach the attention of the people who award the Oscars, but they seldom have much time for European "art" films.


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Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film
From: GUEST,robomatic
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:53 PM

Red River
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
The Wild Bunch


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