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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 26 Sep 10 - 12:03 PM This thread is now 131 posts long.... go back & read MY post many weeks ago. clickity-click Making the same tired accusations from a different angle and adding in one of those patented "If this had happened during the Bush years, the left would be screaming bloody murder." fake bits of logic, pioneered by beardedbruce, changes nothing. **THIS** would not have happened during the Bush years, because there were plenty of other issues to complain about. You can't compare an imaginary issues with a real one. This is a non-issue, being touted AS an issue by the same people who managed to make ACORN into an issue by banging drums until they hounded the organization out of existance on trumped up fake evidence. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Sep 10 - 11:45 PM If this had happened during the Bush years, the left would be screaming bloody murder. Look, lefties, shit happens during both party's administrations. Just because this one happened during your heyday, let's not add insult to injury. Let's not be defending 'stupid' on top of everything else that has happened, nor don't stop up your ears to shut the truth out! Let the chips fall where they may. If there were 'indiscretions' by one of your own, get rid of them, and try to have an 'honest' administration (choke, gag, choke)...well, at least have the appearance of one... I mean isn't that what they are trying to appear like, by covering it up??? Why not go for the 'REAL THING'?? I've seen the footage, as most of you...those punks should have, at least got a spanking. Don't you think??? I personally think that any crooked stuff going on in, in any department, ESPECIALLY, the Department of 'Justice(?)' Should be uncovered, and the 'perpetrators' prosecuted to the FULLEST extent of (what remains) of the law!!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 25 Sep 10 - 09:20 AM Not to anyone with a brain, Douggie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: DougR Date: 24 Sep 10 - 09:28 PM That sounds remarkably like racial profiling, doesn't it? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 07:58 PM And IF you applied the same standards to the liberal posts, instead of telling me, when I state: "And you claim the Left is ANY different?" "Yes...most of them." Well,MOST of the conservatives are different, as well- probaly the same percentage- BUT YOU KEEP setting a DIFFERENT standard for those YOU agree with- REGARDLESS of any unsupported claims to the contrary. I have to judge you by your posts, NOT by your claims. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 24 Sep 10 - 07:33 PM hmmm... you need to re-read and study. Why? Because, as I said, you tend to take my remarks and re-post them as a "So YOU say we should...blah, blah.." form. If you read my posts as written and do not rephrase them as a conservative straw man, we wouldn't need to go thru this. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 07:29 PM "And you claim the Left is ANY different?" Yes...most of them. "But I forget, you have a different set of standards for those you agree with..." And you forget what I said: I do NOT. Really? The statements you have posted do not lead me to think that your denial is true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 24 Sep 10 - 07:22 PM "...I can now use the mere fact that a source presented here is LIBERAL to state that it has no merit and should be ignored." No, the most you can say is that 'it does not automatically have merit', which is all I say about conservative points...though I think many of them can BE shown to have little merit, when analyzed. You may continue ignoring good sense, as is your wont. "BTW, since you take the word of the DOJ over the whislte blower.." That's not what I said. You are the acknowledged master in 'interpreting' an opponent's remark and spinning it to the right. "And you claim the Left is ANY different?" Yes...most of them. "But I forget, you have a different set of standards for those you agree with..." And you forget what I said: I do NOT. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 06:54 PM " are using ANY 'talking points', whether substantial or conflated nonsense, to pile more accusations on the current administration.... " And you claim the Left is ANY different???????? Go back and look at the criticism of the Bush administration. But I forget, you have a different set of standards for those you agree with... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 06:50 PM BTW, since you take the word of the DOJ over the whislte blower, I guess you will support all my arguments that the Bush administration was correct in their actions, SINCE THEY SAID THEY WERE. Of course, if what you mean is that you will believe ONLY whatever a liberal administration says, without supporting information, I will keep THAT in mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 06:29 PM So, BillD. I can now use the mere fact that a source presented here is LIBERAL to state that it has no merit and should be ignored. Thank you. I will be sure to present YOUR logic when I discuss anything here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 24 Sep 10 - 06:24 PM *grin*...an intuitive ol' hillbilly, you are... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 24 Sep 10 - 06:19 PM I haven't even clicked on yer link, Bill, 'cause I'm about 99% sure it is the "Big Fat Liar" hisself, Karl Rove... Now there is a piece of work... It's no wonder that the nation is so polorized now... 8 years of that creep and it's no wonder... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,Bill D Date: 24 Sep 10 - 06:10 PM "....the present administration has people in the DOJ that make decisions as to whether the law applies BY THE RACE OF THE VICTIM?" **IF** there is such, they should be censured or removed. I do NOT belive, just from these assertions, that this has been demonstrated. "Copy & Paste propaganda from LIBERAL sites has the SAME level of value- YET YOU MAKE NO COMMENT!" "One stet of rules for those YOU agree with, another for those YOU disagree with." Piffle! That is not how I think or operate. You have missed it. I have done so. I do not have the references at hand. Wrong is wrong, whether I catch every transgression or not. Set a good example and embarrass the opposition. also..from your own link... "Justice department officials, however, have vigorously defended their management of the Panthers' case, in which two members of the small group allegedly attempted to intimidate voters at a Philadelphia polling place during the 2008 general election. Justice spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler in a statement Friday derided the Civil Rights Commission for its "so-called investigation" that is "thin on facts and evidence and thick on rhetoric." "The Department makes enforcement decisions based on the merits, not the race, gender or ethnicity of any party involved," Schmaler said. "We are committed to comprehensive and vigorous enforcement of the federal laws that prohibit voter intimidation." then... "But activists on the right have complained that Holder and the White House did not vigorously pursue the case because the victims were white – a claim that has now become a widespread talking point among Obama's conservative critics" and that is the real point: conservatives are using ANY 'talking points', whether substantial or conflated nonsense, to pile more accusations on the current administration.... a technique they learned well from a former expert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:40 PM http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/247747/coates-testifies-civil-rights-commission-daniel-foster?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_me |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:23 PM And before you attack the messanger ( as many here seem wont to do) from a previous testimony to the same commission. "U.S. COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS FRIDAY, JUNE 6, 2008 Christopher Coates, as I just said is chief of the Voting Rights Section, Civil Rights Division. This section is responsible for the enforcement of statutory provisions designed to safeguard the right to vote of citizens including racial and language minorities, disabled and illiterate persons, overseas citizens, and military personnel. Mr. Coates first went to the Voting Section in 1996 as a trial attorney. He was named Acting Chief of the Voting Section in December 2007, and subsequently attained the position of Section Chief. While at the Department he has participated in a number of high profile voting rights cases and is the recipient of the Civil Rights Division 2007 Walter Barnett Memorial Award for excellency in advocacy." http://www.usccr.gov/calendar/trnscrpt/060608ccr1.pdf more on the testimony... "The Bush Justice Department first brought the case against three members of the Black Panther group, accusing them in a civil complaint of violating the Voting Rights Act. The Obama administration initially pursued the case and at one point won a default judgment, but the administration last year moved to dismiss the charges after getting one of the New Black Panther members to agree not to carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012. Coates rejected as weak the department's rationale for abandoning the case, saying the department let one of the Black Panther members off the hook because a local police officer had determined he was a Democratic Party poll watcher. Coates called it "extraordinarily strange" for the department to rely on this and urged the commission to consider what the legal backlash would have been if the Panthers had been members of the Ku Klux Klan. "To understand the rationale of these articulated reasons for gutting this case ... one only has to state the facts in the racial reverse," he said. Coates said that with the United States becoming increasingly diverse, it is "absolutely essential" that the law be enforced equally. "As important as the mandate in the Voting Rights Act is to protect minority voters, white voters also have an interest in being able to go to the polls without having race-haters such as Black Panther King Samir Shabazz, whose public rhetoric includes such statements as 'kill cracker babies' ... standing at the entrance of the polling place with a billy club in his hand hurling racial slurs at voters," he said. "Given this outrageous conduct, it was a travesty of justice for the Department of Justice not to allow attorneys in the voting section to obtain nationwide injunctive relief against" the defendants, he said. Since last year, Coates has been transferred to the U.S. attorney's office in South Carolina. He said Friday that the Justice Department told him not to testify before the commission after he was first subpoenaed in December 2009; in testifying Friday, he claimed protection from retaliation under "whistleblower" laws. " From news report... waiting on uscrc posting of the hearing to be able to post other quotes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:11 PM SUMMARY: Coates, a long time civil rights lawyer at DOJ, former ACLU major player, goes on stand against orders of Obama's DOJ, claiming whistle blower's protection. He states that the DOJ, under THIS and PREVIOUS administrations ( back to at least Clinton), has been deciding what voting cases to pursue based on the race of the victim- IF the victim was white, the case was put aside. Cofirmed the PREVIOUS testimony of Adams, UNDER OATH. And the DOJ tried to stop his testimony. ( from watching the procedings) OK, BillD? are you happy? Shall I rub your nose in the fact that the present administration has people in the DOJ that make decisions as to whether the law applies BY THE RACE OF THE VICTIM? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:02 PM BillD, "Copy & Paste propaganda from conservative sites hardly proves anything. " WHEN you make the same comment about Amos's liberal propaganda, THEN you have a reason to ask me for clickies. The fact that you ONLY complain about conservative posts that do not have clickies demonstrates that YOUR concern is ONLY to stifle viewpoints that you do not agree with. Copy & Paste propaganda from LIBERAL sites has the SAME level of value- YET YOU MAKE NO COMMENT! One stet of rules for those YOU agree with, another for those YOU disagree with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 24 Sep 10 - 04:01 PM are you incapable of providing links or using quotation marks or summarizing...as you have been asked to do many times? Or even commenting? Copy & Paste propaganda from conservative sites hardly proves anything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 03:29 PM New testimony- Coates' Direct Eyewitness Testimony to Shine Light on DOJ September 23, 2010 | Hans A. von Spakovsky Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:22:28 PM by jazusamo The news that Christopher Coates, former chief of the Justice Department's Voting Section, is set to testify Friday before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights is crucial to the panel's investigation of allegations that the Obama administration has not enforced the nation's civil rights laws in a race-neutral manner. The testimony by Coates, a career government lawyer, is expected to shed light on whether DOJ: • Discriminated against white voters in dismissing the voter-intimidation case against two members of the New Black Panther Party and the party itself that arose from incidents at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008. • Had a general policy or practice in its Civil Rights Division of not enforcing voting laws when the subjects of complaints were racial minorities. • Had a racially motivated policy of not enforcing Section 8 of the National Voting Rights Act, which requires states to remove ineligible voters from the voter rolls. When Thomas Perez, the assistant attorney general who heads the Civil Rights Division, testified under oath before the independent Commission on Civil Rights in May, the Obama appointee repeatedly denied a racially motivated policy was in place. Perez also testified that he would investigate any statement to the contrary by anyone in his division. However, Perez has refused to address the truth of subsequent sworn allegations alleging that Julie Fernandes, his deputy assistant attorney general in charge of voting issues, ordered and implemented such a race-based policy. In fact, Perez has publicly embraced her leadership. In July, J. Christian Adams, a former career lawyer, testified under oath about Fernandes' statements. Some veteran DOJ watchers say the absence of any Section 8 enforcement activity by the Civil Rights Division more than 20 months into the Obama administration, despite evidence of non-compliance by states throughout the country, lends credence to Adams's charges. Testimony by Coates that the Civil Rights Division under Perez purposely did not pursue full, equal, and race-neutral enforcement of federal voting laws could — and rightfully should — cause huge problems for this or any administration. Adams testified on these matters after resigning from the Justice Department. He said Coates could confirm his testimony and specific accusations that Fernandes did not equally or fairly enforce voting rights laws. The news that Coates indeed will testify follows revelations earlier this week by Judicial Watch. A privilege log obtained by Judicial Watch in a lawsuit against the Justice Department under the Freedom of Information Act shows that political appointees at Justice were much more involved in the decision to dismiss the Black Panthers case than they repeatedly claimed. The log directly contradicts Perez's sworn testimony and DOJ's statements to the public as well as members of Congress. Coates is in a position to confirm key facts in that narrative. One of the most experienced voting rights lawyers in the country, he was a staff attorney for many years for the Voting Rights Project of the American Civil Liberties Union. Coates received the Thurgood Marshall Decade Award in 1991 from the Georgia NAACP, as well as the Environmental Justice Award in 1994 from the Georgia Environmental Organization. The Clinton administration hired Coates as a career lawyer in 1996. He was promoted at the Justice Department under both Clinton and George W. Bush. In 2007, he received the Civil Rights Division's second-highest award, the Walter Barnett Memorial Award for Excellence and Advocacy. Considering this background, it is difficult to imagine Coates not having the respect of anyone devoted to voting rights. Yet after Coates was relieved of his post as chief of the Voting Section in January and transferred to Charleston, SC, on a detail to the U.S. Attorney's Office, he gave a remarkable speech at his farewell party. He spoke extensively about criticism he had received both inside and outside the Civil Rights Division for pursuing the case against the New Black Panther Party in Philadelphia, as well as a case several years earlier in Noxubee County, Miss., in which black county officials were found guilty of a long pattern of race-based discrimination. Coates noted his amazement that he had spent his entire career filing voting rights lawsuits on behalf of minority voters, and yet was ostracized for filing two cases involving discrimination against non-traditional defendants. (In fact, the Noxubee case was the first-ever Justice Department action charging a black defendant with blatantly discriminating against white voters, in violation of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.) In his farewell speech, Coates made it clear that he believes the Voting Rights Act protects all voters — and that, as a government lawyer, he couldn't ignore violations of the law merely because the wrongdoers happened to be members of a minority group. Coates emphasized that race-neutral enforcement of the Voting Rights Act is essential to ensuring that America lives up to its creed of equal protection under the law. Selective enforcement of the law on the basis of race is not fair and does not achieve justice. Admirers of Coates say this deep commitment to equal enforcement of the law rendered him unsuitable for a supervisory role in the eyes of some racially motivated or extreme left-wing partisans in the Obama administration — especially leaders in the Civil Rights Division. Coates' imminent testimony before the Civil Rights Commission no doubt will be extraordinary. The DOJ smear machine urged the left to demonize Adams as a "disgruntled" employee (despite his promotion weeks before his resignation) and to dismiss his testimony as uncorroborated (despite several sworn affidavits in his support). How will the smear machine react to Coates' direct eyewitness testimony? On a personal note: I have known Chris Coates since working with him when I was a career lawyer in the Civil Right Division. He is one of the most experienced, professional, and ethical lawyers I have had the honor of working with. His offer to testify in compliance with the commission's subpoena, despite the unlawful efforts of the Justice Department to prevent his testimony, is one more example of his character. Coates is risking his job and career at the Justice Department to do the right thing, which is itself a terrible injustice. We only can hope that his superiors at DOJ will realize that whistleblower laws exist to protect patriots such as Chris Coates. Let's also hope that other career lawyers will realize it isn't worth risking their reputation to follow illegal or unethical orders. Hans A. von Spakovsky is a former career lawyer in the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,Riginslinger Date: 17 Jul 10 - 08:17 AM Jobs? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jul 10 - 01:08 AM Yep! Let's keep those brown skinned people in their own country and out of ours, so they won't keep taking away our jobs. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 16 Jul 10 - 11:48 PM actually? I shouldn't be surprised at who would make such a totally dense, meaningless demonstration OF BS-ness. Ol' Riggo can say almost nothing, in fewer words, and still manage to sound offensive without even being clear what he is talking about. That takes talent...I guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,Riginslinger Date: 16 Jul 10 - 11:07 PM Actually, racism is bullshit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 16 Jul 10 - 08:16 PM The real race card I'd like to see Obam play is the one where he puiblicly challenges the leaders of the Tea Party and is mother company The Republican Party to repudiate racism within their ranks... The rest of this is bullshit... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 16 Jul 10 - 07:58 PM It reminds me of an old line: "I may not always be right, but I'm never wrong!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 10 - 06:31 PM . . . like trying to argue with a Flat-Earther. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Riginslinger Date: 16 Jul 10 - 05:04 PM Do you walk with a white cane, Greg? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 16 Jul 10 - 04:59 PM Dear jesus- there are none so blind as those who have not brains. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 16 Jul 10 - 04:06 PM Don, The DOJ had won the CIVIL CASE against the three defendents- THEN the OBAMA appointees determined that the ALREADY WON judgement should not be pursued in two cases, and reduced in the last. What part of this do you have a problem understanding? I understand the difference between civil and crimiinal- do you? The civil case is what was dropped by the Obama DOJ- any talk about the criminal case ( which was not brought ) is a RED HERRING and ATTEMPTS to ignore the facts of the case. I can't expect you to respect the facts, but at least stop saying that "if x then wigits" makes sense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 10 - 03:37 PM It's not enough to read and listen, Bruce. It's what you read and what you listen to. Fix yourself a cup of coffee (caffeinated, to promote alertness), clean your glasses if any, and READ: THE NEW BLACK PANTHER CASE WAS DROPPED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION One can find any number of right-wing bloggers spittle-spraying over this non-issue, and reporting it without knowing the facts. That's not news. Most of these blogs rant about issues that have no basis in fact, and when facts are produced, they delete them and call them B.S., because for right wingers, the truth itself is B.S! If you're getting your information from right wing blogs or FOX News, you're not getting the facts. Here's what ACTUALLY happened in the Black Panther "intimidation" case: Bush DOJ decided New Black Panthers no major case.Bruce, just keep reading those idiotic right wing blogs and listening to Fox News and you will continue to keep yourself uninformed. More: # J, Christian Adams has admitted that he does not have first-hand knowledge of the events, conversations, and decisions that he is citing to advance his accusations; # The Bush administration's Justice Department — not the Obama administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008; # The Obama administration successfully obtained default judgment against Samir Shabazz, a member of the New Black Panther Party carrying a nightstick outside the Philadelphia polling center on Election Day 2008; # The Bush administration DOJ chose not to pursue similar charges against members of the Minutemen, one of whom allegedly carried a weapon while harassing Hispanic voters in Arizona in 2006; # No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the polling center in 2008. So — no matter how many times J. Christian Adams declares that the Obama administration refuses to protect the rights of white people — and no matter how many times Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh repeat it — it's simply not true." Okay, Bruce. Have a nice day! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: catspaw49 Date: 16 Jul 10 - 03:16 PM Hmmmm.....Good thought Bill......Maybe "LayaboutVerse" to tie in with Lane,Fielding,Patterson,& Swan--Layabouts-At-Large..........or maybe "FartsaboutVerse" so the whole joint would know its me........... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 16 Jul 10 - 02:42 PM Hey...you could change your name to "Sitsaroundverse" and 100 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: catspaw49 Date: 16 Jul 10 - 02:05 PM Obtuse? Thy name is Bruce. Hey...It rhymes.....whaddaya' think? Kinda' short and the meter could be better but I've read worse.....and it IS factual!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 16 Jul 10 - 01:24 PM I have no problem with appropriate action being taken...and it was. # The Obama administration successfully obtained default judgment against Samir Shabazz, a member of the New Black Panther Party carrying a nightstick outside the Philadelphia polling center on Election Day 2008 (read the REST of my post in bold back up there, and quit flogging that poor horse...it's dead) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:27 PM Don, THINKING, the case was dropped in MAY,2009 and you claim it was dropped under the Bush admnistration. YOU need to read more carefully. BillD et al: So when BLACKS are threatened and turned away by white supremicists at the polls, you have no problem with them NOT being prosecuted under the law if they are only "about three ( or four) guys"?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: artbrooks Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:07 PM GregF: I am not a high school student, nor do I plan on returning to high school any time in the near future, so I cannot rationally comment on the quality of the presentation by teachers or the level of retention. Your comment, to which I responded, was "Is any of that being taught at all anymore!??...No." For that matter, I am equally unable to comment on the quality or the student retention of the instruction you received, lo these many years ago. :>) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:01 PM I think its 4 guys, Bill, but one is only part-time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 16 Jul 10 - 11:27 AM Do note that, even as a civil case, this is about the "New Black Panther Party" which seems to consist of about 3 guys. No matter what Faux News tries to suggest, this is not a big issue. They are 'connecting dots' that are not naturally connected and which this J. Christian Adams, a VERY far-right activist, was using to try to fan almost dead embers into flames. That bone has been chewed and found tasteless, Bruce...don't wear your teeth out on it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:22 AM Read more carefully, BB. And try thinking a bit. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,TIA Date: 15 Jul 10 - 10:53 PM Troll is as Troll does. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Jul 10 - 04:27 PM Don, "The fact is that the situation BB is pissing and moaning about, and blaming on Obama, occurred during the Bush administration. " So Bush is still the president???? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Jul 10 - 04:26 PM "The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court. But then the administration moved to dismiss the charges the following month" It appears that Bush was in office a lot longer than I thought- here it is MAY 2009, and he is still in charge... Or maybe the propaganda on the left hasn't got the facts correct. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 10 - 08:12 AM That's the problem, Greg... By the time ya get that far gone you ain't gotta nuff sense left to shoot yerself... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 15 Jul 10 - 06:32 AM Could be me or you... Right??? If I ever got that brain-dead I hope I'd have the common decency to shoot myself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:48 PM Yeah, Greg... I loves Dougie... I really do... But between you and me he's got this little problem with his thinkerator so let's just be kind to him... (wink, wink...)... I mean, the boy can't help hisseff... That a bad thing but, hey??? Could be me or you... Right??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 14 Jul 10 - 09:19 PM Listening to Fox News will rot your brain. . . . And you don't have to look any further than Douggie-Boy for conclusive proof. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:43 PM Problem with most Bush appointees: their main qualifications were that they were anti-abortion and swore to love Bush as long as he shall live... Not much else required... Problem with most Obama appointees: Republican Senators have put arbitrary and secret holds on them getting confirmed and on the job... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:37 PM "By a Bush appointee, Doug." Yep... and give us another 6 or more years, Doug, and we'll get rid of most of those making those 'questionable' decisions, and get a team in there with some sane direction... *grin* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 14 Jul 10 - 07:02 PM By a Bush appointee, Doug. Don Firth |
