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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 30 Oct 12 - 07:44 AM Republicans like to terrorize Amerika. And Amerika loves it. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 30 Oct 12 - 07:31 AM Obama made the case yesterday....BIG TIME! He abandoned campaigning without hesitation to return and deal with the storm situation. Romney couldn't resist getting in one more love in with his mentally challenged fan club, before following suit.....TOO LATE! Many Americans will remember who put their welfare first. There's the difference between Obama and Romney, and it translates to the difference between The Republican and Democrat politicians. I'd always favour the one who cares more about the American people than self promotion. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 10:50 PM I knew we were in big trouble when Reagan was elected and John Lennon was murdered. No brag. Just fact. =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 05:28 PM Yeah, Don... LH has a little Romnesia thing going... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 29 Oct 12 - 05:05 PM No, Little Hawk, I do take note of what you are saying. The problem is that you DO imply that there is no difference between the parties—until someone calls you on it, then, you come up with your qualifications and modifications. But then, the next time you post along that line, it's back to the same "no difference" implication. My getting on your case is more for the benefit of those who read your stuff and figure (from what you say the first time around), "Why should I bother to campaign or even vote if it isn't going to make any difference?" Maybe you need to do some modification in your usual message and make clear that there IS a difference. I do agree that the whole thing needs a major overhaul. And that's going to take some work and it's going to take some time. But in the meantime, I'm worried about what's going to happen if Romney / Ryan DO get elected this time around. I think we're in basic agreement. But I don't want people to think that "the fix is in, so why should I even bother to vote?" The thing is, Little Hawk, I've seen this happen. And it's pretty depressing. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 04:37 PM Yes, the systemic problems are enormous, LH, and I just don't see how they get fixed... Seems that we are in a downward spiral which, frankly, may be out of control... But it is fixable but it can't be fixed as long as wealthy people continue to hoard and steal more and more wealth... This stuff has happened over and over through out history and seems it always ends up messy... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Oct 12 - 04:03 PM It doesn't seem to make a difference to certain things, Don. Like bailing out the banksters, for instance. Or like continuing to involve the USA in foreign wars and massive military spending. Or like continuing the assault on your civil rights (Patriot Act and NDAA). It does make a difference to some other things...things of a bit smaller import, generally. As regards those other things, I much prefer the Democrats over the Republicans. I also much prefer the general psychology and social philosophy of those who support the Democrats over those who support the Republicans. And that makes me like the Democrats a lot better than the Republicans. I've told you this many times, but you seem to forget. I'm telling you again, so you will maybe hear me for at least a minute or so...until the next time you conveniently decide to forget again. It is quite clear from the above remarks that I do NOT...repeat NOT!!!...think the Democrats and the Republicans are "the same". They are quite different in their basic social philosopy, and that is a very important matter. That's also why virtually the whole world (except Israel) does not want to see Romney win. Israel would be delighted if he won. He'll back anything they choose to do, no matter what. I DO recommend resistance...resistance of a far more fundamental sort than what you have in mind. And I'm not talking about violence. I'm talking about a complete revolution in thought, Don...like the profound revolution in thought that occurred when people stopped believing in the Divine Right of Kings (or the unquestioned rule of the Papacy over all Christendom, for another example) and started believing in representative government and freedom of thought. We need to think completely outside the present political/social box if we are going to fix what's gone fundamentally wrong in our societies. The traditional political parties won't do this for us. They are part of the old order, and they aren't going to change their accustomed way of doing business. I'm talking about something enormous, Don. It's way bigger than who wins the next USA presidential election. But in the meantime...I still hope Romney loses. (And I'm rather worried that he won't.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 29 Oct 12 - 03:44 PM "Good thing there's folks like you...." referring to Bobert. The first time Dinkle has said something that I can actually agree with! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 03:02 PM It all sounds depressing. Like scraping dead people and animals off the highway. Good thing there's folks like you, bobette. =(:-( D) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 02:47 PM Yeah, teaching GED in a big inner city jail, working at a half-way house in the hood is, working as a social worker in the toughest neighborhoods of Richmond, Va. ahhhhh... ...safe middle class life... Grow up, Krinkx... I doubt there is anything you've done that I haven't done... And a lot more that I have done that you wouldn't have the courage (balls) to do... No brag, just fact... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 02:17 PM Maybe the American Communist Party. I remember when Angela Davis ran against Carter and Reagan. Too bad she lost. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 29 Oct 12 - 01:56 PM Little Hawk, the message you keep giving is "They're both the same and it doesn't make any difference who gets elected," i.e., "Resistance is futile! Just lay down and take it!" Now YOU may not think so, but that's the message you keep harping on all along. And judging from posts by some of the more thoughtful folks here, that's the way they read what you're saying also. So I'm not the only one. True. There is corruption in both parties. But it makes one helluva difference who gets in, especially THIS time. As I keep pointing out, the main thrust of the Republican candidates this time is pure Ayn Rand, and if you know anything about her writings and her philosophy, then you should have a good idea of what will happen to this country if these people get into office. Not to mention the inevitable slop-over into Canada. And the rest of the world. Now, I criticize Obama plenty. But when I look at the alternatives, there is NO QUESTION as to who I'm going to support. And as to my "partisan ox," if I can be construed as "partisan," it's because I have lived a good, long while, have seen a lot of administrations come and go--and I know a great deal about history and political science. Also, I stay awake and pay attention to what's going on currently. If I'm "partisan," there's a damned good reason for it. Anyone would be a fool NOT to be! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 11:25 AM I've been the only white man on construction crews many times. I suffered lots of reverse discrimination. Lots and lots. You've led a sheltered middle class life. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 11:14 AM KKK Tea Party The Minutemen The Republican Party The Heritage Foundation Etc. Etc... Here would be my hope for you Krinkx: You wake up black and stay black in America for just one week... You'd get it then... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 10:49 AM United Negro College Fund National Association For The Advancement Of Colored Persons Universal Negro Improvement Association National Association Of Negro Musicians National Association Of Negro Business And Professional Women's Clubs National Council Of Negro Women. They don't have a problem with it , bobette. Only you do. ??? =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Oct 12 - 10:22 AM I criticize both parties stringently, Don, because they both deserve criticism for a number of reasons (their attitude to foreign policy, domestic policy, financial policy, etc). Just because I think the Republicans are definitely worse than the Democrats does not mean the Democrats are therefore above criticism. You are very pleased when I criticize the Republicans, but you whine, carp, and protest when I criticize the Democrats, and mistake my criticism of BOTH your parties for "colorless neutrality". That's absolutely ridiculous. I'm not neutral. You see it that way just because you can't bear your own partisan ox sometimes being gored, that's all. However, I know that all Americans are under a great deal of stress right now with only a few days left to complete this election. Therefore, I will have mercy on you Democratic supporters and cease criticizing Obama (for his policies) until it's over and he's either re-elected...or not. After that, you can be sure I will soon be criticizing whoever the heck takes over your presidency, and for the usual reasons: I don't like fascism, and I don't like imperialism...no matter who practices it. In the meantime, I sure hope Romney loses this one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 09:29 AM BTW, folks... Seems that the Republicans are clearly leaning on a turn-out-the-Bubba&Taliban vote with the red meat... Sununu's comment... The comments on rape... I don't think this is going to help them with women, however... Maybe a strategical error on their part... No matter, Collin Powell's endorsement was articulate and intelligent... And, yes, I heard the entire interview on CBS morning show... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 08:54 AM 1-800-BETTYFORD, Saws... Take yer meds... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Sawzaw Date: 29 Oct 12 - 08:53 AM Just another "porch negro" for the racists... B~ First of all, I do find the term Negro offensive and patronizing. B~ First of all, Dougie, I know my way around a dojo, so neither House Negro Condi of House Negro Colin scare me in the slightest. If either or both of 'um make a move toward me you'll be helping them up off the floor. No brag. Just fact. That's what House Negros do... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 29 Oct 12 - 07:54 AM Yeah, Don... A none vote is exactly what the Republicans have been working on... Their strategy all a long is voter suppression where people just don't vote... Large turnouts favor Democrats and small one, Republicans... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 07:43 AM I vote. No Republicans. No Democrats. Libertarian only. Or my write in candidate. An Illegal Alien. But I may be shifting over to the Green Party. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 29 Oct 12 - 07:33 AM ""My vote won't count anyway. My state is going with Romney. Republicans own this state."" And that "My vote won't count" mentality is very likely the reason for Repugnancy owning your state. If you and others like you don't vote, then you'll go on losing, and you'll deserve to go on losing. One thing for sure, if you don't vote and the Republicans win, you'll get no sympathy here when you piss and moan about them. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 29 Oct 12 - 01:24 AM My vote won't count anyway. My state is going with Romney. Republicans own this state. =(:-( 0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 29 Oct 12 - 01:13 AM If there were VIABLE parties other than the two biggies, that could be a good thing. But THIS election is not the time for screwing around. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 28 Oct 12 - 10:14 PM The Democrats, other than Johnson, tend to avoid wars. A good thing. And Reagan terrorized the country with the IRS. But I want some other party to have a chance. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 28 Oct 12 - 10:11 PM What Don said... If you don't believe the "Both Sides Shuffle" sounds so good then don't, ahhhh... ...play it... I mean, this ain't rocket surgery here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 28 Oct 12 - 10:00 PM Then why do you keep putting the Democrats into the same bucket as the Republicans? Yes, some politicians in both parties are susceptible to bribery, but with the Democrats, their traditional position has been with the working man and ordinary folks in general. The Republicans for the past century have been with the wealthy, and essentially disregard the welfare of the "common man" in favor of the "upper class." The ups and downs of the economy and the employment rates give a clear reflection of which party is in office at the time the fluctuations are initiated. This constant harping of yours that they are just Tweedledum and Tweedledee is as if you're trying to convince people not to bother campaigning or voting because it won't make any difference. It smacks of that "colorless neutrality" that Dante was talking about. If anyone thinks that there is no difference between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, then they've got to be abyssmally ignorant or several McNuggets short of a Happy Meal! Give the pronouncements and sermons from the mountaintop a rest, Little Hawk. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 28 Oct 12 - 09:59 PM Maybe I'll go with the Green Party. Ralph Nader always seemed like an ok guy. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Oct 12 - 08:46 PM Yeah...I'll tell you, Bobert, it makes me feel downright sick when the Republicans win a presidential election...right to my very bones. I've felt that way ever since 1960. Eisenhower wasn't so bad, but after him? Horror upon horror. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 28 Oct 12 - 08:39 PM A burning ring of fire ring of fire |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 28 Oct 12 - 07:24 PM BTW, who in America isn't in a lousy mood??? Goes with our systemic problems that most Americans realize are taking out nation down, down, down... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 28 Oct 12 - 07:18 PM Great, LH... Stick with ***that*** story... That is the real story here... Not that Dems and Repubs are both the same... Not that they both are out to serve corporate interests... There is such a major difference between these two parties that it is irresponsible to suggest otherwise... It's not just Romney, LH... It's about everything that this very radical right party wants for America... Abortion outlawed... The New Deal scraped... Wars and more wars... This is reality... You stick to telling us what a dangerous party the current Republican party is and all will be well... No Romnesia... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Oct 12 - 07:05 PM I don't know what the heck has you bent out of shape, Bobert. It horrifies me that Romney might get elected, and I've never posted anything to the contrary. I loathe the Republican Party, and I loathe the values Romney stands for. My post about his looks being an advantage was made in all seriousness, because I lament that something that superficial can be an advantage to a candidate...but it is. A lot of Americans will vote for Romney because what they imagine when they hear the word "president" is a handsome looking white guy in a suit...not a handsome looking black guy in a suit. It's cultural conditioning, and it plays an important part in getting someone elected. The same thing works against getting a female elected president, for similar reasons: past cultural conditioning. I think you're just in a lousy mood because of the stress of the election, and I'm not surprised that you would be. It's the longest and most stressful election in the whole world. My comment about George Clooney, by the way, was only meant to refer to his looks...not his political views. Bobert, I definitely want Romney to lose this election. I can say it several more times if that's what will make you happy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Oct 12 - 03:05 PM Why should anyone need proof? Whether an attention seeker acting racist for effect or an attention seeker who actually is a racist isn't really a significant difference. Either way it would be silly to reward him with attention. Just doesn't exist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 28 Oct 12 - 02:29 PM Anybody really need any MORE proof that Krinkle is a blatant racist? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 28 Oct 12 - 01:35 PM O J in training O J in action |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 28 Oct 12 - 01:21 PM Negoes are being replaced by illegal immigrant Latinos. I know black people that won't venture into certain black populated areas. Too much crime and violence. Even for them. =(:-( O) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Oct 12 - 01:10 PM The Gallop Poll has just come out with a poll that indicates that 51% of white people confess to being prejudice when it comes to blacks... That is higher than any time in the last 30 years... Boberty undestates the case if the AP link given by JohnInKansas a few posts back is reliable: " That isn't "51% of white people" - the 49 per cent of people not "expressing anti-black attitudes" presumably includes a lot of black people. Take them out of the figures and it's even more depressing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Don Firth Date: 28 Oct 12 - 12:19 AM It's an easy out for Little Hawk. He's had a rubber stamp made. No real grasp of what's really going on in this country, but to those who also don't know, it sounds superficially like detached wisdom from the mountaintop. Overtones of Zen. Echoes of Dante. He says the same thing post after post after post after post after post. . . . (YAWN) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 27 Oct 12 - 11:01 PM George Clooney would tell ya to kiss his ass, LH... He understands stuff that apparently is over yer pay grade... Get with reality or join Krinkx on my bench... You dancin'... You ain't telling the truth... You shuckin' 'n jivin'... You hoodwinkin'... Stand up, man, and be counted... Sheesh... This ain't your grandfather's f'n Oldsmobile... Check out the calendar... It ain't 2000... It ain't 1996... Get with the here and now... Man, I am about to give up on you... You seem to be trying to take the easy way out... What office rae you runnin' for, LH... Get some spine... Never mind... You will go back and channel thru you stupid monkey to get outta havin' to stand up... Like others here, my respect for you is slipping, slipping, slipping... Stand the fuck up... You are just like your hero, Bob Dylan... Had all the words but didn't have an ounce of spine... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 27 Oct 12 - 10:57 PM There you go again bobette. Getting all sexual on me again. Sorry. I don't do other guys. Maybe you can call up an old jailhouse buddy? As far as having the look ,just think Hollywood pretty boy Ronald Reagan. Mitt's another Ronnie. Or that's what they're hoping for. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:54 PM Romney does look like a traditional, white-classy-guy-in-a-suit type American president. He looks almost perfect for that role. Only George Clooney could do it better! ;-) And that is definitely going to help him with a lot of white people who will vote for the guy who simply looks like their inner picture of "the president". I mean, heck, he could be the father on a show like "Little House on the Prairie" or something. He's got the look. He's got the hair. He's got the chin. And he looks rather young and vigorous. That is going to make a lot of people vote for him merely on the most superficial level...his outer appearance. It was John Kennedy's handsome outer appearance that got him elected in '64. Looks count for a lot in an election. Remember McCain??? Naw...he looked too old! Obama was the sleek, young-looking, vibrant newcomer with the great smile then, and it helped him quite a bit back in 2008. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:45 PM Yeah, take it to the grave, LH... Come live where have live... Your "classless and free" BS has just run outta gas with me... Bye for now... Yo, Krinks... Kiss my ass... You are a creepy racist asshole... Bye forever for you... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:31 PM Hmm. Well, I think both parties use the race card constantly, Bobert, any way that works for them, but that means they do it in a completely different fashion. It is the Republicans who are using it in the most negative fashion, as you have pointed out. But don't you think the Democrats have something to gain from using it too? I do. If they have something to gain from harping on "race" issues, why wouldn't they? That's politics. The Democratic Party and the Republican Party each shape their rhetoric to appeal to their support base. They both focus on what their support base fears the most about the other. That's how it's done. You've basically got an alliance of big city people, gays, blacks, university intelligentsia, immigrants, and Hispanics (in a general sense)...that's the Democratic base... Against an alliance of small-town, white, traditional rural people (in a general sense)...that's the Republican base... And you've got a few filthy rich people playing both ends against the middle...they are the ones who fund both parties and run the government anyway after the election is won. Who's worse? The Republicans! No argument there. ;-) The trouble is, I don't like what either of those parties does once they get into office...they do surprisingly similar things most of the time, although they do try to get in each other's way in Congress regardless...because they live to get in each other's way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Henry Krinkle Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:28 PM Prez al-Obama looks more like a fast food restaurant manager than a president. And looks are crucial ever since T.V.s were invented. If it looks good, it is good. =(:-( P) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:16 PM Yeah, LH... It was apartheid... Still is... Worse than its been in 40 years... Here in the South the racists have used "charter schools" to re-segregate schools... Screw the 1954 "Brown v. Topeka Board of Ed"... Doesn't matter... This is what I mean when I talk about the 50 year old temper tantrum by white people... They will not integrate and they will not allow black folks to integrate... The Republicans play on these sentiments of white people... They prey on these emotions like parasites... This is why I call you every time on your "both sides" BS... It ain't both sides...The Dems ain't using race as some kinda trump card to be played in close elections... Might of fact, it ain't in their play book... The Republicans, however, are using it this election cycle like it hasn't been used in decades... That is the reality I'm talking about, LH... No, it ain't "both sides, blah, blah, blah..." It's one (1) side... Please leave the both sides BS at curb for the trash collectors... It was accurate at recently as 2000 but... ...it was a new day yesterday, it's an old day now... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: gnu Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:11 PM After reading the rest of the posts, I must say that I am indeed keen to post again... that should have read, "... cross the ts." Carry on. Smoke em if ya gottem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: gnu Date: 27 Oct 12 - 09:02 PM "gnu, did you read my post of 11:46 AM?" Yup.... and, now, I am gonna read the rest of this thread after yer post. I ain't nothin if I don't croos the ts. Catch ya later if required. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Bobert Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:58 PM Delusional, Krinkx.... Cain was the Republican "Get outta jail free" "Negro"... They weren't gonna pick him in a zillion years... He was used to try to prove that they ain't racists... Didn't work... They are racists and he is a fool... They burned Uncle Tom... If it hadn't been women it would have been something else... He was toast from the ever beginning... Just another "porch negro" for the racists... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell Endorses Pres Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 27 Oct 12 - 08:55 PM I do understand it, Bobert. The Civil War between the Deep South and the industrial Northeast ("Yankees") never really ended. It's still happening, but the parties have switched roles. Lincoln's Republicans had their strength in the Northeast, the Midwest and on the West Coast, while the Democrats had their strength in the Deep South. Those traditional loyalties basically reversed themselves almost perfectly in the later 20th century, and LBJ was dead right about what he said in regards to passing of the Civil Rights Act causing that to happen. Race has been THE sorest trigger point in USA politics from before the Civil War right up to this day. Believe me, I could feel it even when I was living in upstate New York near Syracuse in the 60's. Whites and Blacks were like people living in 2 different worlds around the towns I lived in. It wasn't called "apartheid", but it sure felt like it. If it was that bad in New York State, how much worse it must be in the South. |