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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Musket Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:45 PM With Keith on this. (As I type, I see birds dropping out of the sky, but anyway..) Whilst Mrs Musket and I wind down to bubblegum of a decent variety such as Silent Witness, Endeavour etc, I like to unwind to the gogglebox when I get in late after playing in clubs etc. The documentary quality, especially BBC is staggeringly good, and I reckon the government threat to clip the BBC wings could affect this treasure trove. That said, it does amaze me how many homes you visit, the telly is a constant companion. We turn it on to watch something and then turn it off again. I doubt, F1, footy and cricket apart, that our tellies have been turned on during the day. I'm not American or female or indeed a suspect, usual or special. Although I doubt I would learn something from anyone on the basis of being any of the above. What a strange odd post? This started by Dick telling us he doesn't own a telly. I don't own false teeth, a hippopotamus or a monkey Butler. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:28 PM Because Drs get a cut from the advertising on the TVs - irrespective if anyone is actually watching. And yes Leenia, we get it you can't enjoy TV because of your health. No need to make an issue of it. I can no longer enjoy running and swimming because of my health. Many of us also don't get as much sex as we used to because of our health. so yes, we do understand why you don't watch TV. So enjoy what you can do without such fuss. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:05 PM "Why would anyone deprive themselves?" Obviously Keith didn't read a word of MY post. Well, why would he? I'm female, American and not one of the Usual Suspects. If he'd read it, he might have learned something. And he might have thought, "There are probably other people like her. Could be thousands of them, for all we know." Have you ever noticed that in a doctor's waiting room or in an airport lounge where a TV is on, that almost nobody is watching it? And if they do watch, it is only briefly. Why is that? It seems like a good question to ask. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:45 AM ... or even 5 minutes' time: forgot Dr Stangelove, innit! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:43 AM Off top of head, in genres specified: probably The Incredible Shrinking Man or Bride Of Frankenstein The Magnificent Seven or Stagecoach or Westward The Women or Drums Along The Mohawk or Shane The Bridge On The River Kwai or The Real Glory or The Red Badge Of Courage or An Incident At Owl Creek Bridge But I don't set up to be any sort of authority on film, these are just personal choices, as you ask. And I'd probably recall a completely different set if asked again in 6 months time! ≈M≈ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:07 AM MGM·Lion - Just curious... what's your favourite Sci Fi, Western, and War movies ??? Do you have one of each genre you'd absolutely recommend to anyone ??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 28 Jan 16 - 08:53 AM What everyone is adapting to the occasion in many of the most recent posts {eg Will at 0514} is, of course, Theodore Sturgeon's irrefutable Law Of Science Fiction: variously rendered, but in essence "90% of SF is crud -- because 90% of everything is crud!" ...including tv, natch. Everyone's remaining 10% will vary:- Seeking out that 10% which works for oneself is surely the essence of the matter... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: akenaton Date: 28 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM I do watch some decent documentaries Will, but the drama and entertainment sector has really gone downhill. I was looking at a list of the weekly plays from 1964 to 79...absolute magic and great cast lists. As said above these plays caused great discussion amongst ordinary folk.....As you probably know, I worked in the building trade, after watching "The Lump" a play concerning unprotected labour in the industry, I joined the Communist Party! That's the sort of effect good drama can have on people. Right or wrong, it makes people think. Not much to think about in present day drama(soap opera) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Jan 16 - 06:28 AM Winterwatch last night was an absolute treat. I was flicking between it on the big telly and the Man City-Everton match on my iPhone and Winterwatch won out. Gorgeous. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Will Fly Date: 28 Jan 16 - 05:14 AM what happened to all the wonderful plays, documentaries and really good series that BBC used to serve up? Did you miss the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures, Stargazing, The Story of Scottish Art, Stonehenge: a Timewatch Guide, Death Camp Treblinka: Survivor Stories, Winterwatch, Trust Me, I'm a Doctor? All BBC, and the last six were all on last night... The problem, as I see it, with TV, is the necessity to fill all the channels 24 hours a day, plus the multiplicity of channels. So, while there's still a good core of intelligent and watchable programmes, that core is surrounded by an immense amount of fluff. (But many people are attracted to fluff). Classic television from the past like the Civilization series and Monitor stood more in isolation than sucj programmes would these days. Now, back to Casualty... (I'll get me coat). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 28 Jan 16 - 04:13 AM I have seen some excellent TV in recent months, and the cost trivial. Why would anyone deprive themselves? News and current affairs alone are worth having it. I am following Jericho and Deutchland 1983. I have watched the Homeland series, and any number of histories-Wars of The Roses, Tudors, Naval histories, Shipwrecks (current series). Historical fiction- the series based on Cornwells stories of Alfred and the Danes, his Sharp stories, etc. Cutting edge Science, archeology, it is all there. Grab it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 28 Jan 16 - 02:44 AM Dick - here in the US, we get wonderful shows about old-timey,folk, bluegrass, country AND western, western swing, usually on PBS, which I watch every time they're on. Also the Irish/Scottish/Celtic shows, so I like watching and listening. However, what's the difference (nowadays) between TV and Youtube? I've enjoyed the performances of so many 'Catters - MGM-Lion, yourself, Big Mick, Debra Cowan and others via that medium that I may as well be watching television. See you in June in Cork? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:38 AM Oh well, if you don't like the posts, you can always change the thread...or something like that....and now a word from our sponsors... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Ed T Date: 27 Jan 16 - 07:04 PM "I like to watch" Chauncey Gardner, Being There |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Joe_F Date: 27 Jan 16 - 05:54 PM In 1970 or thereabouts, I ordered a miniature TV from Sears, thinking I would keep it on the closet shelf & only let it out when it promised to behave. Sears told me that that model had been discontinued, but it would sell me the next bigger one for the same price. It was too big for the shelf, so that was the end of that. Somewhat earlier (1962?), I lived in a graduate dorm that had one in the lounge. It would snare me on the way to my room, but only until the first commercial came on. Even studying was better than that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 27 Jan 16 - 05:20 PM No, Raggy -- you misunderstood. Lancashire is the Somewhere where things used to be; it is these new non-creations like Greater This'n'That & Somethingside & Wotsit·West which they have moved them to that constitute the Land Of Nowheresville (see MikeL's post just above). Try to keep up, please! ≈M≈ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:21 PM MGM, so Lancashire is nowheresville is it. I think I can convince you it is actually God's County. In order to do so I need you to tell me which is the established religion of this sceptre'd isle .........this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,MikeL2 Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:26 PM HI Michael I know what you mean about the changes in boundaries in Manchester and Liverpool. Even we who live here can't be bothered. My elder son who lives in Altrincham and used to be in the County of Cheshire., was "moved" into Trafford which is in Greater Manchester. They were not happy about "moving" out of Cheshire which has a higher status around here. In fact they refuse to have Trafford as part of their postal address and use Altrincham Cheshire. In fact we used to live in Northwich Cheshire and without moving one inch we live in Chester West !!! Still with me???? Funny old world innit? Cheers Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Steve Shaw Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:20 PM So, Michael, two offsides to your obvious misinterpretation, and my ally is a Man U man fee chrissake. Eat shit, punk! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:49 AM I don't own a TV and never have. I'm not a snob; TV (and movies) just doesn't agree with my nervous system. I have bad eyes, and I hate images that flash or move too fast. Once, at a Welsh Society meeting, they showed a video from the Welsh Tourist Board where images of mountains, castles, gardens, and harbors shot by in rapid succession. I couldn't stand to watch it. The content was beautiful, but for me the format was awful. I have sensitive, damaged ears, and I found sudden loud noises and shrill voices painful. That eliminates the crime shows with gunshots and the comedies with squealing females. I have also discovered that when watching movies, I tend not to breathe for long periods of time. Something about movies is bothering me deeply, but I don't know what it is. I enjoy YouTube videos because they are short, because I can choose the content, and I can walk away at any time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:38 AM MikeL -- No, I know. But if there was a God he would say it was. Just can't be doing with all this Greater·This and Inner·That and Outer·The·Other, and all these innovations. & I didn't actually say it was: simply used the term Lankies, which seems to me a useful sort of blanket-term for denizens of Gtr Mnchstr & Merseyside and all such Nowherevilles which used to be in Somewhere "when this old hat was new" as the song puts it. Cheers ritebak 2U ≈M≈ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,MikeL2 Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:19 AM Hi I watched Liverpool match. I hate to have to agree with Steve over the off-side decision. It was extremely close but it did look offside to me. Mind you compared with some of the off-side decisions I have seen this year it was controversial. The concern I have is that the decisions in many cases are so obvious that it defied belief that none of the match officials spot them. Another point - the shirt pulling that hardly ever gets spotted. More like wrestling , especial for corners and free kicks into the area. We at Man U have a bad example. Just watch Chris Smalling !! And the stealing of yards especially at throw-ins. Last night Stoke were regularly doing it. Fer did get one of them. Just one point of order for Michael....Liverpool is now not in Lancashire. Cheers Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 27 Jan 16 - 09:44 AM Anyone still use a working valve [tube] TV ? I have to keep reminding my old mum there's no point banging the top of her TV these days if it's 'playing up'. Btw.. every time I've had to go round her house to fix it, the problem has always been 'user error'. For instance, using the wrong remote [for her CD/radio boom box] for days on end before she let me know there was a problem... "... and I'm banging the top of the set, but it still won't work..." Slicing the aerial cable in half [how the F did she do that !!!???] and sellotaping it back together.. ".. I keep banging it but it still wont do anything..."..... 😣 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 27 Jan 16 - 09:27 AM I have not had a television capable of receiving programs for over 20 years. I have one, but it's only used to play DVDs, usually borrowed from the library. It is not connected to an antenna, satellite dish, or cable service. By the way, why is it sometimes called a television "set" when there's only one of 'em? I have a chess "set" and it has 32 pieces plus a board. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Musket Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:41 AM I rest my case |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: akenaton Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:36 AM You seem to be a stranger to irony. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Musket Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:29 AM "I think Bernard might have been a bit subtle for some people." -Akenaton. A quick Google of Bernard Manning "jokes" "Why do nig nogs smell? So the blind can hate them as well." "What's the difference between a nig nog and a Paki? A nig nog takes the plates out before pissing in the sink." Yeah, far too subtle for an ignoramus like me. I obviously lack Akenaton's sense of humour. Mind you, how someone can say they don't watch it yet comment on the quality is beyond me. I think an unhealthy dose of prejudice helps eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: akenaton Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:17 AM I think Bernard might have been a bit subtle for some people. The great writers like Bleasdale, Loach, Peter McDougall,Dennis Potter, Mike Leigh....made ordinary folk think and discuss, the shit which is doled out now is produced with the opposite intention. Most of my neighbours no longer watch TV other than for news. The prancing grinning hyenas of TV "comedy" lack wit or decency. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:06 AM I used of course to have to ref, Steve, back in my long·since teaching days. Alas, I just could not keep up with the play, not being all that mobile nowadays. ≈M≈ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Mr Red on holiday Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:52 AM I never owned a TV until last year when I bought a portable. But I have owned 5 video recorders, & 4 TV cards for PC's in the last 20 years. Like all things: to avoid anything that is not harmful, completely, is extreme. TV is a time watser, but then lying on the beach using up your risk factor for melanoma is a time waster, but there are people with jobs that don't allow them to switch off fully day to day and swapping a week of oxytocin for all that cortisol is beneficial to life. Personbally I found other ways to top up on oxytocin but whatever works for you - like ceilidh dancing. TV is mental wallpaper mostly, but it can dilute that cortisol if you have too much. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,LynnH Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:28 AM Most of my friends are 'Telly-free zones' or, if not, they only switch the thing on if they're ill and confined to bed. Generally, we all consider that we've better things to do with our time - music, art, dance, reading good books, cultivating friendships etc.etc.etc. But feeling some sort of superiority 'cos we're telly-free? Forget it!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Musket Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:25 AM If telly contains sick jokes these days it must be going backwards. I thought sick jokes ended when creatures such as Bernard Manning were taken off the telly? Mrs Musket and I record a few things and unwind in front of them later at night. She invariably works 13 hours a day so we don't eat til 8.00pm, leaving just enough time for, (at present..) Endeavour, Silent Witness, War & Peace, and when I'm out strutting me stuff she watches that midwife jobby. Right now we are out skiing. Someone asked if we get any UK telly over here. I have to be honest, we spend a few weeks a year here in Tignes and have never turned the telly on yet. OK, we watch Ski Sunday on my iPad.... They are recording the men's downhill from here later this week. I'll be the grinning idiot stood behind them as they commentate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Jan 16 - 06:32 PM Watch it again, Michael. You did say you watched telly because of your diminishing eyesight. Carry on like this and you could qualify as a ref. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Bat Goddess Date: 26 Jan 16 - 06:11 PM I have a television -- an old one, not a flatscreen. I use it to watch DVDs and videotapes. I haven't watched scheduled television since 1983. That was pre-cable and we only got three stations. I was watching mostly movies, "The Muppets", Jacque Cousteau documentaries, and "Masterpiece Theatre". I was in the middle of watching "Brideshead Revisited" on Masterpiece Theatre when I found, no matter how many times that episode was scheduled during the week, that I just couldn't find time to watch it. I threw up my arms in disgust (figuratively) and both Tom and I stopped watching television completely. More recently I've binge-watched several series on DVD -- "White Collar", "Boston Legal", "Big Bang Theory", "Rosemary & Thyme". Much nicer that way. I've never watched sports because I have no interest in sports and neither did Tom (or my first husband, for that matter). I find televisions in pubs and restaurants to be really really annoying, even if I'm trying not to pay any attention to them. (Just the onscreen movement distracts from conversations.) Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:58 PM Yay -- well done, Liverpool! Emma hopes Everton get thru tomorrow, as she fancies an all-Merseyside needle-final. Easy, myself. No London clubs left in, only those pesky impudent Lankies. Don't know what things are coming to! ≈M≈ Don't agree re offside, btw. Just about level as I saw it. & no flags raised, nor no disputes from any player. Can't really have been as 'blatant' as you claim, can it now, Steve? Honest now! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: akenaton Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:56 PM There does not seem to be any decent drama on TV anymore it's all disgusting so called comedy, celebrity parades or carefully orchestrated "talent shows"......what happened to all the wonderful plays, documentaries and really good series that BBC used to serve up? I remember the workmen at the firm where I served my apprenticeship arguing and discussing the Wednesday Play or politics from Panorama. I wonder if they discus who showed the most flesh or swore the most often on Big Brother now? Comedy has become a "sick joke" As a society, I think we have regressed not evolved. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:38 PM Anyway, Liverpool did it. Deservedly. The Stoke goal was blatantly offside. Justice done. What having a telly is all about. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:29 PM "I read war and peace a long time ago , was looking forward to the series , but ceased watching it when I realised the beeb were doing their best to turn it into a sex romp at every opportunity." Drat! I seem to have missed the sex romps. But then, perhaps the term 'sex romp' means something different to a fundamentalist? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,MikeL2 Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:43 PM hi GSS <"I also appreciate having the choice of being able to go to a pub and not watch a television, or occasionally to watch one, but I would not be happy if that choice was removed either way, it is particularly annoying if you are trying to have a music session and the tv is left on even if the sound is off, I always try and sit so i cannot see it., but thats just my opinion."> In this day of simple TV recording there is nothing to stop anyone from recording a program and going to the pub. I do it regularly. But that is my choice. I appreciate yours is different. I agree with your point if you are having a music session and TV is on it can be very infuriating and IMHO ignorant on the part of the host/publican. Mind you I have a 2nd home in Spain and in many Spanish bars and restaurants it is not unusual to have three or four TVs running with as many different programs on at the same time - usually football. Over in Spain it is the normal thing and is not through anyone being ignorant. Of course there are bars where live music is played and the people watch and listen appreciatively. But they take some finding. Cheers Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: keberoxu Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:42 PM I don't have a television in my apartment. I'm old enough to recall television BC, Before Cable [TV], from my childhood; the house I was raised in, viewing was very selective, so only a few hours a week were viewed. Traveling as an adult, I have checked in to enough hotels to notice what television is like these days. I can use a few of those buttons on the remote control, enough to look at a channel with the sound turned completely off for a few seconds before surfing to the next channel. All these years on, I have viewed more films in the privacy of a hotel room, on cable TV, than I have in the cinema (which I avoid anyhow). The Weather Channel is entertaining and sometimes they even get the forecast right. But then I don't have a computer at home either, this post is coming from the public computer station at the local library branch. Superiority? The opposite, I have to admit; I just have a horror of all this stuff that is new to me. Calculators, computer programs, cable subscription bundles, telephones that take your photograph, .... one of these days, though, I ought to learn how to cut and paste, and maybe then I will stop flunking blue clicky school at Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:36 PM Yes, I gathered that from the pre-publicity, Pete, and have refrained from watching. I have in fact learned over long years not to watch screen or stage adaptations of novels of which I am particularly fond. They never get then right. Esp, as here, when the work of the much-adulated but IMO absolute·kiss·of·death Andrew Davies, who, as I once said in a review (had to watch that time coz was working) suffers from the dire delusion that he can write better dialogue than Jane Austen and create better plots that Anthony Trollope -- as if! The only exceptions were the much more sensitive adaptations of David Nokes, who made an astonishingly good fist of Richardson's Clarissa, which I should have thought the most intractable to adapt; he really caught the atmosphere of extreme deviousness on which that great work turns. & Dickens, sensitively adapted, can work now and again -- I recall a reasonable BBC Our Mutual Friend nearly 20 years ago. ≈M≈ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:30 PM Jesus, I'll have to start watching it then! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:06 PM Some people just like to be combative , GSs. I see shimrod and Steve are getting withdrawal symptoms and looking for a fight again. I am pretty sure I have seen more evolutionist stuff than they have creationist , and in all the threads on the subject , which only evolutionists have initiated here, just about the only evidence they offer is appeal to numbers and authority. I read war and peace a long time ago , was looking forward to the series , but ceased watching it when I realised the beeb were doing their best to turn it into a sex romp at every opportunity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: The Sandman Date: 26 Jan 16 - 01:02 PM I asked a question. I dont mind what anyone else does. I Certainly would not force punk folk rockers 80 year old mum to have a budgie. it seems like its just me and Lynne H, possibly acorn 4, Who do not have televisions or dont want one. I have never made a claim to being superior, if anyone detects whiff of superiority, its not intended. I also appreciate having the choice of being able to go to a pub and not watch a television, or occasionally to watch one, but I would not be happy if that choice was removed either way, it is particularly annoying if you are trying to have a music session and the tv is left on even if the sound is off, I always try and sit so i cannot see it., but thats just my opinion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: akenaton Date: 26 Jan 16 - 10:32 AM I think it's slightly more damaging than the internet, providing that you don't use facebook. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 26 Jan 16 - 10:23 AM I used to be an avid cinema goer. 2 or 3 times a week. But that was before mobile phones and extortionate ticket prices. Now, the 47" Hi Def telly, hifi headphones [and occasional 3D glasses] more than suffice for a stress free viewing experience. The wife usually goes to bed soon after 10.00pm, leaving me to switch between freeview recordings, or Sky & Amazon Prime Movies on Demand, or pop in a blu-ray. Switch off all the lights.. sit back, and enjoy... Not forgetting the big bottle of sugar free tesco cloudy lemonade.... 😎 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jan 16 - 10:22 AM We shall watch on the big flatscreen in our living-room which we found as a great bargain offer in Tesco's 3 or 4 years back, snip at £100, which has performed us great service since. Important thing is that we and you will be watching together, here in the Global Village. Come back McLuhan, all is forgiven... ≈M≈ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Jan 16 - 09:59 AM I'll be watching the game on my iPhone using my mobile Sky Sports app and my Roberts Travelpad Bluetooth speaker, which was a freebie, a way of watching that I enjoy a lot. I also watch a lot of telly on the iPad. I find iPlayer a better experience that way. That little speaker is pure joy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 26 Jan 16 - 09:49 AM We (my Beautiful Wife and I) own a TV--but not basically for TV programing! We watch movie DVDs, which we get from Netflix, maybe two or three per week. The BW will occasionally watch TV for such things as political "debates", so-called. No accounting for tastes. And inauguration speeches, where she will now and then succeed in dragging me in front of the tube. She can't get me there for the Oscars. Someone may ask, "Don't you watch the news?" We get our news fix from the radio (NPR).
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Subject: RE: BS: Television From: Rapparee Date: 26 Jan 16 - 09:39 AM We have four televisions: two downstairs and two up. The two up are flat panels: there's a 19 inch one in my wife's office and a 34 inch one on the wall in the dining room. My wife "watches" Deutsche Welle in the evening as she works; we had the "big" TV on one morning last week to catch the Weather Channel's reportage on the blizzard on the East Coast. That was the first time in a month or two we've used the bigger set. As far as I know the ones downstairs, both CRTs, haven't been used in literally a couple of years. That TV viewing poll group paid me five bucks to participate a couple years ago. Most of the times were that none of the four TVs were turned on, but I seem to remember following a news story then and so there was some crumb tossed to the company. When I/we do watch, it's very, very, very selective. |
