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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: JennyO Date: 11 Jun 06 - 02:01 PM A good goat'll do that! Well, someone had to say it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Jun 06 - 10:12 AM test message --- help me a goat is eating my genitals |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: number 6 Date: 10 Jun 06 - 01:50 PM A nation that invented the cuckoo clock and the Glockenspiel can't lack from a sense of humour. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Jun 06 - 01:01 PM If you find farts funny, Germans must be hilarious!!! I mean that meal that Wilfred is having will bring on more than a few blasts from the past. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Ron Davies Date: 10 Jun 06 - 12:32 PM Wolfgang--Ausgezeichnet! That gives the lie (yet again) to the old canard that Germans have no sense of humor. When I was in Germany I found they had a great sense of humor--especially in satire, and telling stories. I remember a song called "Der Jazz kommt aus Hamburg"-- by Udo Juergens, I think-- which, tongue-in-cheek, claimed that jazz had originated in Hamburg, and gave (unlikely) examples. If this be thread creep, make the most of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 10 Jun 06 - 11:33 AM None of both, no never no more. Give me a pork rib, with sauerkraut and mashed potatoes, accompanied by some glasses of applewine (the German, but really stronger, equivalent of cider). |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 09 Jun 06 - 07:39 PM We have Hungry Jack's in Australia - supposedly owned by Burger King - I prefer their 'Aussie Burger' - lots of vege stuff thereon - and the burger grills are ususally where you can see them. Their onion rings are to die for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 09 Jun 06 - 05:39 PM You don't honestly think that any of the meat served at ANY Burger King ever comes anywhere close to a real flame do you???? |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Anonny Mouse Date: 09 Jun 06 - 05:29 PM Quite a treatise Don. Wow. I will confine my remarks to the original choices. I prefer BK, and their products over McD's. A Whopper is better by FAR than a Big Mac! Also, the "flame broiling" or whatever beats fried on a greasy grill. When walking in the region of our local BK, it literally smells like someone is having a cook-out. I only eat Verrrrrry rarely from any of these types of places. Like, less than once a month. Once in awhile more...but not often. Usually when the wife's out of town, and I'm by myself. Cooking for one is way more work than it's worth. In an "emergency" (on a long trip, hungry, and no BK nearby, wanting it fast) I'll eat PLAIN cheeseburgers at McD's. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:57 PM Just happened to be ghosting by |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jun 06 - 02:10 PM Man, you're quick, Clinton! Were you waiting in ambush!?? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 09 Jun 06 - 01:54 PM Ya... and if you think you can get good food at Burger King/McDonalds/Wendy's/Arbys etc. then you obviously don't understand..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jun 06 - 01:49 PM When it comes to hamburbers in general, let me put it this way: to those who understand, no explanation is necessary. To those who don't, no explanation is possible. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Jun 06 - 01:04 PM Well if you're a masochist Becca, it could be fun! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Becca72 Date: 08 Jun 06 - 01:03 PM Just as a note, Joe, most McDonald's in Maine have lobster rolls in the summer months. But no self respecting Mainer would EVER get one from there. and I also don't bother with either McD's or Burger Yuck (as my friend's son calls it) because both make me feel sick afterward and what's the point in that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: GUEST,Russ Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:27 PM My wife and I went up to Canada once and on the way back from Dawson, we stopped and bought some moose antlers from indians at a honest to god indian trading post in Pelly crossing in the Yukon. I tied them up on top of the camper and we proceeded to Whitehorse to get an export permit for them. We stopped at the MacDonalds in Whitehorse and asked them for some of those Moose Mcnuggets like we got at the last MacDonalds. They said there was no such thing. I said hell yes there is look at what we found in the dumpster there and pointed to the antlers on top of the camper. Had them going for a while. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: number 6 Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:15 PM Yeah, you gotta try it deep fried .... damned good it is! sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: GUEST,Russ Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:09 PM Up in Canada they put whale blubber and moose meat in them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:41 PM Welcome Back Marty! |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: number 6 Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:41 PM Jeeeezuz!! God, never gonna eat another one of those aberrations disguised as a hamburger. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: GUEST,Russ Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:39 PM Everybody knows that Mickey Dee's hamburgers have earthworms in them and they form the pattys in their armpits. That's the reason for the hair in them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:09 PM I could send you a dollar, then you could say... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:05 PM Thanks, Robin. Now I can say with at least some measure of honesty that my writing is "internationally recognized." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Jun 06 - 09:18 PM Loved it Don! Get it published! Why not try an Aussie newspaper/magazine? |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: M.Ted Date: 07 Jun 06 - 08:53 PM Sorry, about the beard remark, Clinton, you're such a bagful of delight that I keep getting you confused with Santa Claus-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 08:20 PM Okay, whatthehell! I mentioned (warned about) this above. I wrote this about ten years ago just for kicks and I haven't sent it off anywhere because I couldn't figure out what kind of magazine or other publication might be interested in it. It's been sitting on one disc or another since then, so I might as well inflict it on you folks. It's kinda long. Runs six typewritten pages, single space (I don't know if it's even "legal" to post anything this long, but, if not, I guess someone will let me know). by Don Firth Recently I motored up to the window of a drive-in hamburger establishment in the Broadway district and -with no special cause to be concerned, but nevertheless mindful of warnings about cholesterol -I purchased one of their smaller hamburgers. I didn't realize how small it was until I unwrapped it and started eating it. After two bites into a not very large bun, I still hadn't encountered meat. I opened it up and examined it. I spied the meat patty cowering pathetically behind a shred of wilted lettuce. To call it a "beef patty" may be too optimistic, but I imagine it contained some traces thereof. It was about a quarter of an inch thick at its thickest, and roughly the diameter of a silver dollar. It was charred around the edges, and I think if I had dropped it, it may very well have shattered. The hamburger has fallen on melancholy times within recent years. It is true that in this hyperkinetic, fast food, gobble-and-go world in which we live, the hamburger is ubiquitous. In any urban or suburban area, you can't drive very many blocks without spotting one or more of the chain establishments where they throw hamburgers out the window at passing cars. But hamburgers sure ain't what they used to be. J. Wellington Wimpy was someone I knew from childhood. He was a recurring character in the comic strip called "Thimble Theater," which featured a one-eyed, spinach eating sailor named "Popeye." J. Wellington Wimpy was a portly gent in a derby hat. He was semi-cultivated, a bit pompous, and not just a little pretentious. He was afflicted with an abiding craving for hamburgers: he could eat a whole platter of hamburgers at one sitting. But he was perpetually strapped for ready cash. Between his craving and his insolvency, Wimpy was the archetypical moocher. Much of the humor, and Wimpy's charm, came from the ingenuity, and the transparency, of his attempts to inveigle an on-the-cuff plate of burgers from his favorite lunch counter, or to promote a long term -very long term -loan from friends and acquaintances. On the radio and in movie cartoons during the Thirties and Forties, the voice and manner of expression of J. Wellington Wimpy was exactly that of W. C. Fields, who may very well have supplied the voice-over. Wimpy became so identified with hamburgers that many restaurants that featured hamburgers called themselves "Wimpy's." Although, alas, I have never been there, I have heard that there is a whole chain of hamburger joints in England that bears his name. These days, hamburgers are regarded by many people as "junk food," but at one time, they were standard, reliable American fare. They may not have been regarded by the elite as particularly glamorous, but if nothing else on the menu appealed, you could count on a hamburger to be at least fairly tasty and filling. Although it was a while back and our ideas of nutrition have changed in recent years, a prominent nutritionist of a couple decades ago praised the lowly hamburger, particularly the cheeseburger with all the usual fixings, because it encompassed the four major food groups and thereby constituted a well-balanced meal -at least in terms of ingredients, if not in ideal proportions. And speaking of "fixings," one of the hamburger's attractions is its easy customizability. Starting with the basic beef patty and hamburger bun, one can be highly creative. Cheese, onion, pickles, tomatoes, lettuce, mustard, ketchup, all these things individually and in various combinations are fairly standard options. Our friendly neighborhood heart surgeons may have received an income boost when people started including several strips of bacon in the list of options. Imagination and experimentation produced new varieties: for example, add a slice of pineapple and you have created a "Hawaiiburger." The Hasty Tasty was a twenty-four hour restaurant on upper University Way. A University District landmark of former times, it was often referred to by critics and habitués alike as the "Hasty Tasteless" or the "Nasty Tasty." Indeed, the food was not gourmet, but it was pretty good, and portions were generous. The menu was broad. Breakfast, lunch, or dinner was available any time of the day or night. Centerpiece of the menu was the "Hasty Burger." It was a great "triple by-pass special," or "Kevorkianburger," although we didn't think of it that way back in the Fifties and Sixties, and it could manifest itself in a variety of guises. These days, if a burger features a quarter-pound patty, its purveyor trumpets the fact loudly in television commercials: such generosity is a major selling point. But the core of the Hasty Burger was closer to half a pound of ground beef: not, as is today's practice, a mixture of one part commercial hamburger and one part wet cardboard. This patty of real beef was placed on a standard hamburger bun (now regarded as "oversized"), and the rest depended on your specifications. Your choice (any, all, or none) of mayonnaise, mustard, ketchup, pickle (relish or sliced), lettuce, a generous slice of tomato, and a generous slice of onion, not just a sprinkle of chopped onion, unless that's what you preferred. You could have this alone or with a side of French fries. This was not a small handful served in a little paper envelope: it was a whole potato's worth, piled like cord-wood on a large platter beside the burger. And on each table and every few feet along the counter there was a bottle of ketchup. Other options included my particular favorite: the chiliburger. As far as I have been able to tell recently, the chiliburger is now extinct. But in those glorious days when the chiliburger roamed the earth, it was constructed by placing one of the aforementioned monster beef patties on the bottom half of a hamburger bun set in the center of a large platter. The top of the bun was sliced in half and the two pieces placed at either end of the platter. Then the platter was inundated with an entire bowl of the Hasty Tasty's really good chili con carne. Finally, if you wished, the whole thing could be buried in chopped raw onion, or shreds of cheddar cheese, or both. Bob Murray's Doghouse, located on Seventh Avenue near Denny Park, was a Seattle institution. It opened its doors sometime in the mid-Thirties and closed for good on January 31, 1994. It appeared frequently as a setting in the mystery novels of J. A. Jance. Ms. Jance's protagonist, Seattle Police Detective J. P. Beaumont, often met friends, enemies, and informants there. He also consumed its blatantly non-gourmet food with gusto, sometimes accompanied by dire warnings from his granola and bean sprout eating partner. Indeed, when a new Beaumont novel appeared, the Doghouse would host a book signing party where you could meet the author, buy a book, and have her autograph it for you. The Doghouse featured hamburgers in a variety of incarnations (if I may be so bold as to use that term in this context). During my college days I ate there from time to time, usually with a group of other people after a party or late night outing of some sort. The menu listed, by humorous canine name, ten or a dozen ways of tricking up the basic beef patty and bun with various additions and condiments, for example, a plain hamburger (beef patty and bun only) liberally splashed with ketchup was identified as "The Bloodhound." My favorite menu item there was, of course, the chiliburger. The poochie moniker it bore may have been something like "The Chihuahua," but I think it was more grandiose than that. For the life of me, I can't remember. I just ate them. They were excellent, running a close second to those at the Hasty Tasty. Although I had not eaten there for decades, when the word came down that Bob Murray's Doghouse was due to close for good, I was assailed by a great hunger for one of their chiliburgers. Fortunately, an auspicious occasion presented itself. J. A. Jance's new Beaumont novel, Without Due Process, had just been release, and as one of its last acts, The Doghouse was hosting a book signing session. A friend, Juni Nelson, and I share an addiction to mystery novels, especially ones with a local setting such as Jance's Beaumont novels, so she and I went to The Doghouse on the appointed evening, bought the novel and had it autographed by the author. Then we ate there. Chiliburgers. It was the first chiliburger I had eaten in years. It was good! Scrumptious! But, Lord, how it had shrunk! This was not the shrinkage that occurs when nostalgic exaggeration is suddenly confronted by the reality that was. This was measurable diminution. I didn't actually sit there at the table and measure or weigh the portions except by eye, but I am certain that the figures would bear me out. During the middle Fifties I made a sojourn to a clinic in Denver to undergo physical therapy. It wasn't long before I became jaded by institutional food and went foraging outside the hospital. One Sunday afternoon while returning to the hospital from seeing a movie, I realized that I would be late for dinner. When Hatch's Drugstore hove into view, I got off the bus. Hatch's Drugstore was an early example of the kind of "drugstore" where prescription drugs are dispensed from a corner area only a little larger than a phone booth. In the rest of the place, which covered most of a city block, you could buy lawn furniture, hardware, clothing, you name it. It had a large magazine and book stand, which was one of the attractions of the place for me. They also had a lunch counter, complete with tables and booths, that was bigger than some restaurants. I had never eaten there. I was hungry, but not famished. I figured a hamburger would do nicely, and I might follow it with a piece of pie. The hamburger was served open-faced on a large plate. The beef patty must have been a good eight ounces, and the bun was even larger than what is called "oversized" these days. Also on the plate, arranged in a visually pleasing manner, were slices of cheese, tomato, onion, several leaves of lettuce, a whole dill pickle -and a side of French fries. As I gazed at this in awe, the waitress presented me with a relish tray: a couple kinds of mustard, ketchup, pickle relish, chopped onion, and a couple things I don't recall. The idea was, build it yourself to your own specifications. It was yummy! The next surprise was the price: thirty-five cents! In Seattle, that layout would have been available only in up-scale restaurants, and it would have run about a dollar and a half. Now, a dollar and a half may be a bargain these days, but in the Fifties, unless you were going to Canlis' or Von's or someplace like that, a dollar and a half could buy you a full meal, complete with salad, coffee, dessert, and a tip for the waitress. Dick's 19 cent hamburger drive-ins -actually "walk-ups" -began opening around Seattle in the early Fifties. Dick's nineteen cent burger was pretty basic: small patty, small bun, and the supplied condiments consisted of little more than a few molecules of mustard and a shard of pickle relish. But people used to say, "Gee, how can they do that for just nineteen cents?" One of the store managers used to answer, "Well, we loose money on each individual sale, but we make up for it in volume." In a world in which most people find that answer acceptable, many strange things are possible. We didn't realize it at the time, but it heralded the descent that was to come. But in Denver . . . on an outing with some friends at the hospital, we stopped at a nineteen cent hamburger drive-in before heading off to wherever we were bound. When the hamburgers arrived, I was astonished. They were not as big as Hasty Burgers, but close: two or three times the size of Dick's nineteen-centers, and they came adorned with lettuce, tomato, mayo, and mustard. Denver was a great place for the hamburger connoisseur. When I commented glowingly, the natives responded, "Well, yeah, I guess maybe so. We are pretty close to beef country, after all." There was one glitch, however. After several months in Denver, I had yet to encounter a chiliburger. When I mentioned this to a Denver native, he looked at me dubiously. Chili? On top of an open-face hamburger? Sounded pretty weird to him. Then one evening while wandering around downtown Denver after seeing a movie, I spotted a restaurant that claimed to be the greatest hamburger emporium in the world. "Surely here," I thought, and went in. I scanned the menu. It didn't leap out at me, but this was another of those places where they feel compelled to give all their menu items cutesy names. A more careful reading produced results. There, halfway down the page, I found it: "flame broiled to a succulent blah blah blah, served open-faced and smothered in our long simmered special blattety blattety chili con carne and garnished with generous portions of grated cheese and chopped onions." Aha! and furthermore, Eureka! No wonder I hadn't found it right away. They had given it a very flashy and elaborate name, something like "The Our Lady of Guadeloupe Chili con Toro Muerte Platter." Oy vey! I ordered one and ate it. It wasn't bad. In fact, it was pretty good. Not outstanding by Seattle standards, but pretty good. I belched discreetly and wiped my lips with a paper napkin as the waitress handed me my check. "I really enjoyed that," I said. "I haven't had a chiliburger in over a year." "A . . . what?" she asked. "A chiliburger. That's what we call them in Seattle." Her eyes turned hard and her pleasant smile was replaced by a frosty veil. "Well, that's not very likely," she said stiffly. "Our chef invented that dish. It's one of our specialty items. This is the only place in the world that has them." "But I've been eating them for years in Seattle," I protested. "A chiliburger is a pretty standard menu item." Had I walked into a mosque with a pot-bellied pig on a leash, I couldn't have drawn a more withering stare. "That's impossible!" she said, and stalked off. I left her a generous tip. After all, I had questioned her faith and possibly sewn the seeds of doubt. No one can be that adamant unless they feel that their basic beliefs have been challenged. Back in Seattle again, I soon headed for the Hasty Tasty. But that was many chiliburgers and many years ago. These days I am practically a vegetarian. But not totally. When I am not being a vegetarian, I am especially fond of seafood. Salmon, well prepared, will make my eyes light up. I also like halibut, sole, cod, clams, crab, prawns, oysters -just about anything that swims or clings to a rock. The wily tuna salad sandwich is a special favorite. A nice pork tenderloin, yes: and ham, and various kinds of fowl. I like beef. Yet, within recent years the flavor seems to have changed. It tastes "gray." That's the only way I can describe it. And no, this is not my aging taste buds. Once in a while I encounter a steak or piece of roast beef that tastes like steak and roast beef used to, so I know it isn't me. There is controversy in some circles over the way beef cattle are raised, what they are fed, and what they are injected with. This may very well explain the loss of flavor. I still really enjoy a good hamburger. When I can find one. And chiliburgers? They may still be out there, but I haven't seen one on a menu since Juni Nelson and I went to the Doghouse in 1992. And it's really doubtful that I will ever find them being served by one of the chain burger joints. A chiliburger is not real easy to throw out a window at a passing car. By the way: the site if the Hasty Tasty is now occupied by the "Silence-Heart-Nest," a New Age, vegetarian restaurant. (Sigh). I may just tidy this thing up and try submitting it somewhere. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: melodeonboy Date: 07 Jun 06 - 06:17 PM The choice of the two named "restaurants" (sic. - or should that be "sick"?) reminds me of the Monty Python "Spot the Braincell" gameshow sketch where Mrs. Ratbag is offered the choice of a blow on the head or a poke in the eye as her prize for getting the correct answer. The only time I'd enter either of them would be as an arsonist! |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Wolfgang Date: 07 Jun 06 - 05:06 PM For the very few who might understand it: a joke which makes only sense if you understand German: What's the name of the CEO of the McDonald's in Turkey? Izmir Übel. (homophone to German for 'I feel like throwing up') Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Barry Finn Date: 07 Jun 06 - 05:03 PM Red meat-hamburgers is not junk food but that's what it becomes when it served by the fast food method. Yes-one is unhealthy for you, two is worst, a daily diet will sicken you. A little poison is still a little poison. I can't stand to eat in those places & I do love meat. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 05:00 PM Thanks Don.... How's about I buy you a Whopper to celebrate? |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:58 PM Congratulations! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:46 PM While we're taking this ALL SOO SERIOUS... 100 |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:46 PM Maybe you should try a bran muffin, Don... Or take your own advice and "Don't get so emotionally involved." |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:44 PM SHEESH!! Okay, you can have the last word if that's what you want. Fine by me. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:39 PM "So I offered an opinion and I'll stand by it." Holy back-peddle Batman..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: catspaw49 Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:17 PM Besides CH, you need to stay on topic as you say........This thread is about which you prefer, McD or BK and you said neither...they both suck...and I would agree. But Don likes BK. Fine......This thread is NOT about the merits or lack thereof of fast food.....YOU made it that. The pizza thread is about what you like on pizza. I notice no one has brought up the amounts of mercury in tuna have they? HAHAHAHAHAHA.......Ah Clinton.....You love to argue. How about a thread on which you prefer, written or oral? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 03:57 PM Look, Clinton, I know perfectly well that fast food burgers are highly processed and if one tried to survive on them, he'd be courting cardiac arrest. The question that started this thread is, essentially, of the two, which is better, McDonald's or Burger King? So I offered an opinion and I'll stand by it. Of the two, a Whopper will beat a Big Mac every time and every way. This is not a Holy Crusade. Don't get so emotionally involved. That can lead to cardiac arrest also. (As can smoking, which I gave up 28 years ago.) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 03:22 PM There is no arguing... cause to put it simply, you're wrong.... Anybody who has half a clue about fast food chains will tell you that.... Never seen a big refrigerated truck pull up to the back of a Burger King or a McDonalds, or a Wendy's and off load box after box of frozen, over processed 'food'? (The mostly do it late at night so that people don't wonder why the ingredients on the side of the 'burger' box, is exactly the same as what's listed on the side of the box that the paper hats come in) Or do you think that perhaps, in the basement every Burger King is getting fresh sides of organic beef delivered that they butcher and grind themselves???? And I suppose that someone is down there running the mill-wheel to grund the flour to make the 'buns' right?!?!?! I KNOW you're smarter than that Don.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 03:10 PM I'm not going to argue the point, Clinton. It's not worth my time and energy. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 02:56 PM Bullshit Don... Your Burger King got sent the exact same over processed, frozen crap to serve as every other Burger King... That's the fast food modle for you... |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 07 Jun 06 - 02:51 PM Clinton, your local Burger King may serve crap, but the one that was in my neighborhood served a damned good burger. I can't speak for all of them. Neither can you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:47 AM "Most restaurants have gone to specialty or ethnic foods." We're not talking about restaurants here are we, we're talking about Junk/fast food.... I'm sure you know the difference Don..... Burger King is NOT a restaurant, and what they serve is NOT 'Fresh' (Tasty is too subjective....) "Clinton dislikes burgers" And where exactly did I say that?!?! Stop projecting your agenda.... "How is this not junk food?" One is often better off eating the wrappers, bags and paper cups the 'food' comes in rather than the food itself! |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Homeless Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:37 AM A reasonably well prepared hamburger is not "junk food." Think about it. Ground round (granted McDonald's mixes it half-and-half with wet cardboard), bread in the form of a bun, and the usual fixin's like lettuce, tomato, a little mayo (ingredients often found in salads), perhaps a bit of mustard and/or ketchup, and a pickle slice or two. Not junk food. Most nutritionists I know of who remain current say that red meat should be avoided. No more than 1 serving (4 ounces) per week. The protein you get from meat should come from leaner sources - primarily fish or shellfish, then fowl. White bread, which includes all fast food hamburger buns I've seen, is also frowned upon. Grain should come from whole grains, or at the very least whole grain bread. Processed flour has most of the nutritional value stripped from it. Mayo, mustard, and ketchup frequently are overly sugared. Pickles are exceedingly high in sodium. Too much fat, sugar, and salt. High calorie, low nutritional value. How is this not junk food? |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Jun 06 - 07:33 AM All these attempts to wean me off junk food has resulted in nothing but a craving for a Sausage Egg McMuffin.. but as it's gone 10.30am here, I'm not likely to get one. Guess I'll just go have a mushroom sandwich. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Don Firth Date: 06 Jun 06 - 04:46 PM It's not exactly as if I am perpetually mowing my way through a field of hamburgers on a daily basis. Halfway decent hamburgers are hard come by these days. Most restaurants have gone to specialty or ethnic foods. There are Thai restaurants all over the place, and within walking distance of where I live, there are a number of Chinese restaurants (not the old-style chop suey and chow mein joints, but Mandarin, Cantonese, etc. Greek, Russian, Ethiopian, Vietnamese, Mexican (not counting the Taco Bell four blocks from here), a couple of Italian restaurants (not counting pizza joints everywhere). A couple of bar-and-grill type places. A couple of seafood restaurants (I'm particularly partial to seafood), health food restaurants and a juice bar, two Subways and a couple of delis. I am surrounded by food. But I don't know of any place nearby where I could walk in and order anything resembling what used to be a standard, medium-priced, very American restaurant meal, say a small salad, entrée of chicken-fried steak, mashed potatoes, vegetable, and roll, followed by pie à la mode. These days, if you hunger for a hamburger in this neck of the woods, you can go to Kidd Valley. I don't know if they're a national chain, but there are several of them around Seattle—very good burgers, but not exactly cheap. Another would be Red Robin Gourmet Burgers. Eleventy-fourteen different varieties, but also a bit pricey. But I could head down to my local Burger King and get a damned good hamburger (I usually order the Whopper Junior with cheese—fresh and tasty) for a buck and a half. Unfortunately, I just got the news that the Burger King I usually go to has closed its doors. There are others in Seattle, but not nearby. Damn!! That leaves me with Dick's Drive-In (not bad, but not as good as Burger King) or Jack-in-the-Box. Jack-With-the-Styrofoam-Head's burgers are pretty good, but they're tending to escalate in price. One thing they do have going for them is that after the E coli brouhaha of ten or twelve years ago, Jack-in-the-Box's burgers are scrupulously clean and well-prepared. They don't want a repetition of that. I really wish there were a decent fish-and-chips place nearby. . . . We're not unacquainted with the food pyramid, and our food intake is pretty healthy. Barbara's a genius with rice, beans, mixed veggies, pasta. Last night for dinner we had a humongous big salad with sourdough bread (the kind where you slice the loaf yourself). Don Firth (Jeez! It's past lunchtime here!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Scoville Date: 06 Jun 06 - 03:40 PM Whataburger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 06 Jun 06 - 03:30 PM "Red meat isn't junk food" I never said it was, did I? "in his beard when he eats them" I don't have a beard..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: M.Ted Date: 06 Jun 06 - 03:27 PM Don, Clinton speaks with the admirable certitude--but nothing else. Red meat isn't junk food, for one thing. For another, nutritionists tend to suggest a varied diet, that includes a little of a lot of things, including meat, including saturated fats--some even suggest a little drinking is good--None, a least that I have even heard of, suggest a even little smoking, though-- I suspect that Clinton dislikes burgers because he gets catsup,mustard, and bits of bread crumb in his beard when he eats them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: Clinton Hammond Date: 06 Jun 06 - 02:11 PM I've never been even CLOSE to being what anyone could call a 'chain smoker' |
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Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 05 Jun 06 - 09:27 PM The preacher was talking to these three little kids one day tryin to stoke up their religous beliefs. He asked them what was the two best things in the world. The first one said "God and you reverend". The second ond said "the Bible and Jesus father". The third one said "you guys must not know nothin about pussy and watermellon". |
