BS: McDonald's or Burger King

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: podman
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 05:07 PM

IN 'N OUT! Better quality, better shake, way cool T-shirts at affordable prices.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 05:05 PM

If it has to be a fast food burger, I go with In 'N Out Burger, but it's a Western states chain, so you might not be near an outlet. Still, it doesn't anywhere compare with a good restaurant or home made burger.

I agree with guest DB about the blandness of McDonald's. They are P.R. geniuses to make their burgers #1 in sales.

Chanteyranger

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 04:52 PM

As I said, 6, your mileage may vary. The Burger King near where I live cranks out a pretty good burger. And I know burgers.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: number 6
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 04:46 PM

May God, Allah, HaShem, or whatever, have mercy on anyone who eats the food served ar either McDonald's or Burger King.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 04:36 PM

No, Maggie, I can't say that I've ever been to Zeke's, although I've definitely heard of the place. Gotta go sometime.

One of my favorite places in Seattle was a drive-in, but not part of a chain:   Green Lake Jake's, right across from the lake, up by where East Green Lake Way branches off and heads northwest to intersect with Aurora Ave. Oversized bun, oversized patty, and they'd fix it any way you wanted it. Cheese, bacon, tomato, onion (sliced or diced), lettuce, pickle, miscellaneous condiments. You could stack up a regular "Dagwood." Great fries, too. A whole potato's worth, sliced thick, not skinny like McDonald's fries.

Great shakes, too. Not extruded out of a machine. They used real milk, ice cream, syrup or whatever, and mixed it in one of those big cans they'd stick on the mixing machine, then, if you were going to have it there, they'd serve it in a big glass, or if you were taking it out, in a big, fairly solid paper cup.

Many a summer afternoon or early evening, Barbara and I would descend on the place, then take our booty down to the lake shore.

Alas, Green Lake Jake's is no more. It was demolished some years back and an office building now resides on the site. (Sigh)

Folks who are recommending alternatives like Subway (no quarrel with that, very good!) or just eating fruit (or tofu), I'm afraid just aren't getting it. Trying to find a good hamburger in these days when people think a hamburger is merely something to throw out a window at passing cars is like the Quest for the Holy Grail.

Don Firth

P. S. If this keeps up, I might be tempted to post a fairly long article I wrote on hamburgers several years ago. It covers everything from the Boeing food service (retch!!) to the Hasty Tasty (smelled like a greasy spoon, but the burgers were superb!), and includes a side-trip to Denver (they didn't know what a chiliburger is down there!!).

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Midchuck
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 04:21 PM

I'm sorry. I like Burger King Whoppers. I know I'm not supposed to. But I've suffered all my life from a reluctance to do what I was supposed to, merely because I was supposed to.

I'm Sorry. I'm Really, Really Sorry. But I like them.

Peter

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 03:58 PM

Don,

Have you eaten a hamburger at Zeke's up in Startup (maybe Goldbar)? The one in the railroad caboose? I think Bob Nelson recently confirmed that it is still there. I used to stop there on my way back from climbs in the Stevens Pass area back in the 70s and 80s. Freshly made, big hand-shaped patties of real meat, wonderful real food. They also made their milkshakes with real fruit. You'd have to stop sucking on a strawberry shake to pull the straw out and eat the berry chunk off the end before drinking more through the straw.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:54 PM

none of them do anthing a sgood as sainburys aberbeen angus one - and really theres no reason why not. Of course burgers are better if you make them yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:00 PM

If you're well off enough to have the choice, buy some fruit instead.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:58 PM

We do.... quite regularily as a mater of fact....

:-)

Not only is it more nutritious, it tastes way better too!

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: bobad
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:44 PM

Good policy CH.

Why don't you make your own pizzas? Not difficult and can be much more nutritious.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:36 PM

About a year, year and a half ago, my Trollmate and I went through the house and threw out ALL the junk food.... all the chips... all the instant frozen dinner crap.... all the take-out/delivery menues.... all that skite that is poisoning the western world....

With the exception of occasional pizza cravings when I've been boozing for hours, I don't miss it at all....

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM

Just in case anyone is really interested,

I've been a hamburger aficionado all my life, and for the most part, the hamburger has fallen on hard times. But—and this is my conclusion after much careful research—between McDonald's and Burger King, it's Burger King by a country mile. Anyone with taste buds should be able to tell the difference easily. [Okay, Zippy, I know what you're going to say, but just stow it for a bit. Read and learn.]

I had come to this conclusion a long time back. But about a year ago, I saw a television program, the title of which (if I recall correctly) was "On the Floor." Each episode of this program dealt with sending an upper-level executive of the company of the week to work for a week "on the floor" as a peon in the company. One of the things that was notable about the program was that the exec invariable came back with a notebook full of changes that needed to be made, more often than not improving both working conditions and the product or service. Sort of like a general finding out what's really going on on the front lines.

I might point out that these programs were not company "puff jobs." On a few of these programs, a number of incidental things were revealed about the company in question that were not very complimentary.

One of these programs dealt with the Burger King chain. The exec wound up working in a Burger King doing various jobs: working in the kitchen, handing trays out the window to passing cars, talking to customers, talking with the other employees—and learning and taking notes. What was particularly interesting to me as an occasional customer was the procedures that they followed to make sure the customer got a decent hamburger.

They put a great deal of importance on being able to anticipate the demand at various times during the day, and the goal (rule) was that the order should be handed to the customer within a minute and a half of the order being placed. Burgers were made up in advance, according to the estimate. The patty (a better grade than most fast-food places used) was cooked and placed in a fresh bun, then put into a warming oven. When the order came in, the sandwich (meat and bun only) was removed from the warming oven and the various fixin's were added according to the customer's order, e.g., "Tomato, lettuce, ketchup, no onion, no mayo," or whatever combination the customer wanted, packaged, and delivered—the job took maybe half a minute. The burger was customized according to the customer's wishes, using all fresh ingredients.

At McDonald's (and most other fast-food places), I've never been asked how I wanted my burger, they just handed it too me.

Now—here's where the BIG difference comes in:    the burger (bare meat and bun) sits in the warming oven for a maximum of twelve (12) minutes, and if, in that time, it doesn't go out as an order, it is thrown out! They have determined that any longer than that in the warming oven and the meat tends to get soft, the bun begins to get soggy, and the whole thing loses flavor. It turns into what's sometimes referred to as a "sweatburger."

McDonald's in a pinch. But I've been handed many "sweatburgers" out the window of a McDonald's. I'd put Jack-in-the-Box a fairly close second to Burger King. Wendy's . . . isn't bad. I have never got what I would call a gourmet hamburger from Burger King (that, after all, is not what fast-food places are all about), but I've never been handed one that wasn't fresh and tasty.

I don't indulge all that often, but when I buy a hamburger, it had better be pretty decent or I won't be back.

It may depend a bit on where you live, so your mileage may vary.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: GUEST,DB
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:25 PM

The main problem with McDonalds - apart from the ubiquity of its horrid, plasticky outlets, that is, is the BLANDNESS of the food. Quite apart from any concerns about its nutritional value, it tastes, to me, of NOTHING - a mouthful of cotton wool would be tastier!
Nevertheless, even if they served the most sublime, gourmet dishes ever, I still wouldn't eat there - I just can't stand the thought of giant, monopolistic mega-corporations taking over the world ... local is best, down with mega-corps!!!

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:24 PM

I am going with the premise that this thread is in jest -
".......dining out" denotes more than a sandwich, and the stuff from the above mentioned places is.....well, call it a bad tasting 'snack'.

Moral compass be damn'd, Clinton is correct!

Joe may have found the only McDuck's worth stopping by.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:22 PM

"I'd hit Subway...the food is better for you"
But let's not try to fool ourselves into thinking that's it's GOOD for us....

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:11 PM

There's a McDonald's in Ellsworth, Maine, that serves a pretty good lobster roll....

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: LilyFestre
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:01 PM

Pick your poison.......

McDonalds Nutrition Chart



Burger King Nutritional Info


For about the same money (maybe a buck or two more), I'd hit Subway...the food is better for you, fresher and won't make you feel like crap a half hour after enjoying your meal.

Subway Nutritional Info

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: bobad
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 12:18 PM

Didja hear that the Dairy Queen is pregnant?

It seems that the Burger King forgot to wrap his whopper.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Alba
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:34 AM

Pass! ....on Both:)
Alba

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:17 AM

good job ya don't eat yer werds Clinton..................

(But you is right - just this once)

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:13 AM

Watch Supersize Me.... Or Honey We're Killing The Kids.... Or Jamie Oliver's School Dinners.... Or.... Or... Or......

You'd have to be an idiot to eat fast food....

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: open mike
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:10 AM

which ever one offers a veggie burger...

there used to be a common item available

in tennessee near the community called "The Farm"

which is a group of vegetarians....who popularized

the Farm Burger which was the bun with lettuce,

tomato and eveything else except the beef.

http://www.thefarm.org/

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Leadfingers
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:03 AM

Of the two , I feel Starvation is the better option !

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:58 AM

Only if there's absolutely no other choice!

Maybe Wendy's.....

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: mack/misophist
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:37 AM

Neither. I hate agreeing with Clinton. It makes me doubt my ethical compass.

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:30 AM

I don't eat any of that shit

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: s6k
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:28 AM

burger king

stick with macDs if you want a quick snack

Subject: RE: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:22 AM

McD for a one-dollar double cheeseburger (plain) if you are merely hungry and cheap; the King for a MEAL (tomato-mayo only plus cheese and extra cheese).

~Susan

Subject: BS: McDonald's or Burger King
From: GUEST,Dónde está la carne de vaca
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:18 AM

Hey folks! It's Saturday, the night that's made for dining out. Should we head to McDonald's for a Big Mac or to Burger King for a Whopper?