BS: A birther in the Court

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 01:53 PM

And surely Obama's mother didn't come from the Caucasus?

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 01:11 PM

The Republicans seem to have no trouble making things up- in fact, they're rather good at it.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: jacqui.c
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 12:08 PM

And Ms Taitz reckons that the word 'African' would not have been used on a birth certificate in 1961.

You really couldn't make it up........

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 11:35 AM

You would think it is a dead issue, but apparently The Donald needs to "verify" the birth certificate...Oh and the academic transcripts from Occidental, Columbia and Harvard as well. Faaaar, from over.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 09:32 AM

But this is now a dead issue now that Obama has produced his birth certificate - isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 06:32 AM

There are crazy people in all countries. The worrying thing about the USA is that the crazy people appear to be not out on the fringe, but slap bang in the middle of the mainstream, virtually in control of the Republican Party.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: DMcG
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 03:51 AM

No. It's simply a constitutional issue.

You have to abide by ALL the provisions of the constitution. If they can set this glaring precedent (have a non-citizen serve as president), then what's to stop the scrapping of the rest of the document?

As a UK outsider, I can't see why you did not ask any of the 'origin' questions about preceding Presidents that you are asking about this one. Were you personally demanding to see the birth certificiates of both Bushes? Nixon's? Truman? And it's a modern world - maybe we should really be carrying out DNA tests as well to make sure the people named on the certificate are actually the parents ...

So I see no reason for the different behaviour. Apart from the one glaringly obvious reason that you would deny, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Apr 11 - 06:31 PM

Jesus wept- there's no end to the fantasies these fuckwits can invent, is there?

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: curmudgeon
Date: 27 Apr 11 - 06:09 PM

NO MORE GUESTS IN BS!

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: LadyJean
Date: 27 Apr 11 - 06:01 PM

YOU JUST CAN'T KEEP A GOOD CONSPIRACY THEORY DOWN.


TWITS! WORLD CLASS TWITS!

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 08:07 PM

You conduct a hundred polls which show 'X', and all it shows is how certain questions were answered by a few folks.

In this case, all it might mean is that a 'majority' of Republicans think that any doubts about Obama are worth cultivating. You can't tell how many really 'believe' the birther line... or even what they use as 'evidence'. Many have never gone beyond that batch of made up and...literally.... faked 'data' by that woman dentist...Orly Taitz. A brief review of HER history should cause one to wonder how ANY poll of devout Republicans on this matter could generate good statistics.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 05:50 PM

Who is Newser?
Irellevant.
Poll details?
Highly relevant.
Details here:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_US_0215.pdf

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 12:44 PM

My first reaction is, "What, who, how, why, or which is Newser?"
I never heard of it before. What is its orientation?

And the same question as to the author of the poll which is cited: Where is Public Policy Polling coming from? Who is behind it financially?

As everyone knows/should know, the validity of a poll is entirely dependent upon the polling pattern and the question set applied. I wouldn't unquestioningly accept the "findings" in this case, without more knowledge.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 10:27 AM

Well, that just proves that a majority of republicans are brain dead.

Good to know.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 10:23 AM

And the latest polls show that a *majority of Republicans* are now birthers.

Actually this is great news for Obama.

He will run against a GOP candidate who is entirely unelectable.

http://www.newser.com/story/112171/majority-of-gop-now-birthers.html

a majority... really? wow

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 06:42 PM

Heh! ;-) Well, I had to, Ebbie...to make the point, you see, that no one except an American would be at all likely to bother spending much if any of their time fighting over this particular matter. I bet they've got stuff in Russia like this that they argue about endlessly too...and none of us even knows what it is!

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 06:25 PM

I dunno. Never stopped you, did it?

(Now, this time I AM kidding.)

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 05:05 PM

Why would he even care about all this crap people are raving on about here if he wasn't American? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 05:01 PM

I expect that he is an American - we've got a lot of those like him around- read some of the Comments posted on some news stories...

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: frogprince
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 04:54 PM

Whew; for about a second, I thought Uncle Dave's last post referred to Prez Obama; then I got it.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 04:28 PM

If he is indeed an American.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Amos
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 12:43 PM

Ich:

Barry Obama is an American patriot, whether you can see it or not. While you spend your days rutting in the sewer of your paranoid delusions, he puts everything he has on the line to try and build a better future for the country.

On due reflection, I think you should be shamed of yourself for your contumacious slanders and your unbridled misguided arrogance. Thoroughly ashamed.

I am sure this will not penetrate your self-involved brain, but it needs to be said. You are trading in libels against a good, hard-working citizen of the United States. How unAmerican of you!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 08:49 PM

Oh good. I'll not have to off myself.

(BTW: Leap Day!)

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:54 AM

Great heavens! Not you, MouseThief.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:17 AM

Good God ! You sound like Guest from Sanity!

Me, or Mikey?

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: ichMael
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:17 AM

My Frog photo from last year. Found the little bugger stuck in the lid to the water cut-off. He kept staring up at me every time I walked past, day after day, until he crumbled away. He looks pretty PO'd here.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:16 AM

"Your thinking is dysfunctional because of your liberal arts educations."

As I said before, spoken like a true redneck

Boy, he just gets better and better!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:11 AM

Good God ! You sound like Guest from Sanity!

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:00 AM

Arabic isn't a race, it's a language and an ethnicity. There are black Arabs and white Arabs (and, doubtless, Asian Arabs).

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: ichMael
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 11:45 PM

What happened was, there was an international push yesterday to search the name "Barry Soetoro." An internet radio program urged its listeners to search the name, and the term became the #1 phrase searched on google for the day. Apparently people poked around and found my page on the topic. So, for today at least, if you typed in "The Mudcat Pages" on google, my page appeared above this site's. I expect when homObama's sexploits at Man's Country become news it'll happen again.

The guy's such a pig, and he and his wife hate America, he deserves all the grief he can get. I'm just doing my bit. Did the same with GWBush. You folks need to quit looking at the world through the two-party lenses they force on you. The parties work together to take away your rights.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 11:37 PM

Sorry, guys; it didn't occur to me right away that Ich will probably now go six days without sleep, searching his site time after time, trying to be sure it comes to the top on all the browsers.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 11:31 PM

On Yahoo, mudcat pages brings up all kinds of stuff from the or about the catbox, nothing of IchMael's stuff unless it's down the line aways. Now try frayedtrain on Yahoo. Sunovagun, I must be way more important and influechul in the world than IchMail is!!!

   "Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble..."

         Heeheeheehee

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 11:14 PM

Oh, pardon me; to get my stuff on top of google image search, you have to put it in as frayedtrain, without a space.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 11:06 PM

Genius at work. Put a phrase or made-up expression on a web page, google that, and it comes right up on the browser. Put in darn near any common female name with "cam" added, and you can get to see a woman going by that name with little or nothing on. Punch in the words "frayed train": Hey, I must be one of the most famous people in the United States, or maybe the whole world; goody goody!!

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: ichMael
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 10:15 PM

Dunham's so-called marriage was one of the plural. It would not be recognized either. Obama is a bastard.

Frank Marshall Davis is most likely Obama's father. Davis couldn't claim him, though, so they sent Dunham to Kenya to go through the marriage farce. Davis later became Obama Jr.'s mentor. Obama knew all this too--his mom had a man's name, his real dad wouldn't claim him but was chewing on his ass all the time, his phony dad was some freakin' nutcase in Africa. Then his mom renounced his U.S. citizenship (bogus in the first place) to declare him an Indonesian when she started putting out for Lolo Soetoro.

Poor Obama. All the gender confusion and bafflement over parentage turned him from Obama to homObama. Let's drive that page to the top now.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:57 PM

This is getting to be fun.

"Obama Sr. had other wives, and America does not recognize plural marriages."

So, if America does not recognize plural marriages then Obama senior was married only once- to Stanley Dunham. After all, his previous marriages were not carried out in accordance with the West's requirements and therefore were not marriages.

(Sorry, Jeri)

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: ichMael
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:52 PM

Oh...Obama's mother as a whore. I keep making that mistake. Technically she was a slut, not a whore. Just do a search for Frank Marshall Davis.

And technically Obama is illegitimate. Obama Sr. had other wives, and America does not recognize plural marriages.

Now tell me again how some forged Certificate of Live Birth puts all these points to rest.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: ichMael
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:25 PM

Oh, this is cool. I just typed in "The Mudcat Pages" into google and got the following list, in order of the number of hits received recently:

The Mudcat Pages - What is Barry Barack Soetoro Obama's Legal Name? Unless he legally changed his name back to Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro is committing forgery every time he signs a document. The Mudcat Pages.
www2.moment.net/~michael/ObamaSoetoro.htm - Cached

The Mudcat Discussion Forum Mudcat time: 12 August 2010 - 9:07 PM EDT. * Click on the linked "Messages" numbers to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically ...
www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm - Cached - Similar

Mudcat MIDIs Product Request, Max's Blues Museum, Song Origins & Info, Unanswered Requests, Member Photos & Info, Jump Rope Rhymes, Bruce Olson's Web Site, Áine's Mudcat ...
www.mudcat.org/midi/midibrowse.cfm - Cached - Similar

And so on....

You minority of 40% who still believe Obama was born in the U.S. better get your thinking right. You've been flim-flammed. Even his WIFE told you he was born in Kenya, but you still think Hawaii.

Your thinking is dysfunctional because of your liberal arts educations. They're divisive. You're taught differences rather than similarities. And your thinking is so screwed up that you now consider a man who's 6% black to be...black. Even when you knew his mother was white, you still considered him to be...black.

I dislike Obama because he's deliberately helping to destroy America (same as the Bushes and Clinton did). But any criticism of Obama is met with the cry of "racist" from the left. Pavlovian. You folks have been trained to Bark for Barky. What a shock it must be to learn that he's only 6% black. Hardee har har.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:20 PM

Icky likely will be happy that people are still engaging with him.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:17 PM

Oh no! Obama mostly white? Oh, please tell me it isn't so.

I wouldn't like to see icky cry.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:14 PM

Frankly, I don't really care whether Obama is black, white, green, yellow, or polka-dot. He is the legally elected president of the United States, and doing a very passable job at it, in my opinion. Not everything he talked about during the campaign has been accomplished, but that's hardly to be surprised at, with the Republicans' determined efforts to impede any kind of positive effort his administration or the congressional Democrats put forth.

But, accepting icky's own descent statistics (that's probably a mistake, but let's do it for the moment) it leaves Obama with his largest portion of descent as white.    And so what?

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 08:34 PM

See?

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: ichMael
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 08:03 PM

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).

http://www.cf-cia.org/obama_lineage.htm

That stuff's been out there forever. Do you folks physically close your eyes when you see something like that on your screens, or is it like a mental eyelid that blocks the information?

Obama's got a LOT of skeletons he's hiding, his father's lineage being one of them. A lot of you still believe he's "black," and you might not goosestep to his tune if you find out he's not. I read once that if your parents' families (European) had been in the U.S. for more than 5 generations, then you definitely had "black" and "Indian" blood in you. That's why I can't understand the left's obsession with race. We're all mixed race. Get over it.

Only 40% of Americans are now sure that Obama was born in the U.S. He's toast.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 06:47 PM

There are actually a lot of folks running around who are maybe 6% or more black, but who don't know it. Particularly in the South.

More than one slave owner or overseer was given to tamper a bit with the female slaves.

Who knows what genes ichMael's DNA might be carrying, that he doesn't even suspect. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 06:45 PM

FrogPrince, well put. lol

I noticed it too but decided that we would know soon enough the latest garbage that is being dumped and lapped up by the ickies of the world.

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 04:05 PM

I noticed the 6% too, but I just didn't have the heart to lift the lid on the septic tank and holler "please explain that".

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 03:55 PM

Just a little side-point, but it seems to illustrate the convoluted nature of ichMael's thinking (?) processes:

Barack Obama's father was a Kenyan. Black. His mother was a Kansan. White.

This makes Barack Obama 6% black?

ichMael, explain this to me. How does that work? The answer should be really fascinating!

Don Firth

P. S. Flunk math, ichMael? Or did you go to school at all?

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Amos
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 03:18 PM

Boy, Ick, you sure twisted the hell out of that little bit of information! Maybe you ought to measure thrice before you type once.



A

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 02:50 PM

Ebbie, thank you for catching icky with his hand in the cookie jar!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: A birther in the Court
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 01:53 PM

ichMael's implicit assumption:   any white woman who sleeps with a black man, including a black man to whom she is legally married, is a "whore."

ichMael, you are beneath contempt!

Don Firth