BS:The Death Penalty

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Becca72
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 11:12 AM

Use 'em for medical research/product testing. Rabbits don't wear mascara, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 11:05 AM

I think we should go farther. Like a scarlet A embroidered on a gown.

These ideas are not what one would call "new".

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 10:50 AM

Include me with Kendall. Oh, and add 'hard labour' too.
S:0)

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: jacqui.c
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 10:49 AM

And the prisons in the UK are full to overflowing. It seems that prisoners are being released early as a result and that magistrates have been told to give bail rather than have people on remand.

There doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent to wrongdoers at all and they all seem to know their rights inside and out.

Maybe we don't have to use flashing lights - what about tatoos?

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 10:37 AM

Weapons do not have to be guns. A dozen angry citizens who will rush to help the guy being attacked is a good idea. The big problem today is everyone runs away from their responsibility to defend each other. Yes, this is the first century where people do not carry weapons, and in my opinion it is not becoming a better one. But what makes it that way is the avoidance of social responsibility to act.

Ask any police officer in Toronto, they will tell you the community is the problem. When they act it's racism, when they arrest it's wrongfull, when they charge it is thrown out of court or a minor penalty issued. No consequences means more crime. Unless the community act together to stop children becoming thugs, the problem will get worse. There is little or no real discipline in schools, and neighbours are not minding what the kids are up to. If you try to discipline kids you get accused of child abuse and assault.

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 10:27 AM

Nah - branding is far to old hat. What's wrong with flashing led's embedded into the forehead.

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 10:25 AM

Dave the Gnome, are you suggesting that they be branded? And if a man is a thief, perhaps his right hand should be removed?

Or perhaps like Cain, after he killed his brother, the murderer should have some other kind of sign on him that would signal people that he is fair game?

Subject: RE: BS:The Death Penalty
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 10:16 AM

I think a better solution is to bring back the concept of 'outlaws'. People who live outside the law by commiting crimes should be punished by having their own legal rights removed. No prison costs. No execution costs. Lets just see how long they last with no right to protection from the people they are committing crimes against:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Midchuck
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:55 AM

The Larry Niven Solution.

Lock him away. From time to time, harvest whatever organs or extremities that can be removed without killing him/her, for transplant to people who need them more than someone who's never going to be let out anyway.

Peter.

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: kendall
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:39 AM

Life without parole.

Subject: RE: The Death Penalty
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:35 AM

...OK folks, lets leave aside the fact I made the cardinal sins of A. spelling the word 'Penalty' wrongly and B. putting the thread in the wrong section, for which I apologise on both counts.
I expected this thread to cause some adverse comment judging by some of the stuff I've seen on similar threads before now.
Paul, why am I a waster for trying to stimulate some debate? I thought we were all reasonable people who came on here to give opinions and get feedback? which is what I am saying? what is the answer? If you actually read and understand what I said you'll notice that nowhere in the thread do I actually promote Capital Punishment, I merely said it was already going on! Again I ask, has anyone got any ideas how this sort of thing can be stopped WITHOUT anyone losing their life!

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:32 AM

Of course! Let's all get guns! That works.

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:26 AM

As Heinlein put it,
"An armed society is a polite society."
Unfortunately, someone told the British public that they should not defend themselves, so this type of situation will only get worse.

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:17 AM

...and as for dogshit...

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 08:49 AM

Down, down, to the BS section!

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 08:44 AM

I think the death penalty should only be used (if ever) for offences which affect the fabric of society in the broadest sense.

Murder, while obviously a heinous crime, is usually unpremeditated and while obviously having a terrible effect on the families of the victim, tends to have a very localised effect.

Double parking, on the other hand, can jam up a high street for a whole morning and lead to the loss of hundreds of working hours and inconvenience dozens of people. Likewise littering, overtaking on the inside and riding a bicycle on the pavement. I think it's time we started looking as a society at the really serious crimes.

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Paul Burke
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 08:11 AM

Funny how this crap always originates with "guests". Do these wasters usually shove someone's door open, shoot their mouth off, and depart?

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 08:06 AM

I think it should be awarded against anyone who spells "penalty" as "panalty".

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 07:05 AM

So you would execute the boy accused of killing the young man then ?

eric

Subject: RE: The Death Panalty
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 06:37 AM

yes put this isn the BS Section

Subject: The Death Penalty
From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 06:31 AM

With the recent killing in London of a young man trying to protect his family from a bunch of yobs who were terrorising him it has struck me as ironic that in a society that apparently does not condone the death penalty we already have one! the only trouble is it is the lawbreakers who get to use it while the lawmakers do not! How many more instances of Capital Punishment being meted out by gangs of miscreants does it take before something is done to stop it!
Anybody got any ideas?