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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 21 Mar 05 - 04:58 PM Since I cited Wheee! Blog as a source of "Say Say My Playmate" versions, it is only fitting that I refer anyone interested to this Mudcat thread Children's Street Rhymes One example from that thread was provided on March 11, 1998 by Marc B. Playmate Say say my playmate Come out and play with me and Bring your dollies three Climb up my apple tree Slide down my rainbow and we'll be playmates forever more. Enemy Say say my enemy Come out and fight with me And bring your devils three Climb up my poison tree Slide down my razor Slam! into the dungeon door And we'll be enemies forever more. **** Thanks, Marc!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 21 Mar 05 - 10:48 AM Layah, Here are two versions of the take-off of "Say Say My Playmate" [also known as "Cee Cee My Playmate" & "See See My Playmate" "my little enemy come out and play with me and bring your dollies 3 climb up my apple tree slide down my rain barrel into my dungeon floor and we'll be faithful enemies for ever more more more" posted by Jill at July 31, 2003 Wheee! Blog "My little playmate Come out and play with me And bring your dollies, 3 Climb up my apple tree Slide down my rain barrel Into my cellar door And we'll be jolly friends Forever more! My little enemy Come out and fight with me And bring your ..., 3 Climb up my poison oak Slide down my razor blade Into my dungeon door And we'll be horrible enemies Forever more! I can't remember what the enemy was supposed to bring 3 of...I'm guessing it wasn't dollies though." posted by Kari at August 1, 2003 Wheee! Blog {These posts used with permission from that blog members} For more contemporary children's rhymes, particularly those of the "Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" variety, click here Wheee Blog Enjoy!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:04 PM dianavan that is a wonderful tale. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Layah Date: 20 Mar 05 - 04:46 PM I used to sing that song slightly differently. I think it started hey hey my playmate. And for the rain pipe part we sang "shout down my rain barrel, slide down my cellar door" There was also a song, I'm not sure if one of my friends made it up or if it was generally known, but it was an immitation of that song only it was about my enemy instead of my playmate. "Hey hey my enemy, come out and fight with me, and bring your drangons three" I can't remember the rest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 20 Mar 05 - 04:19 PM dianavan, I like your belief that rainbows are path for soul waiting to be born. It's the opposite of the idea I had as a child that rainbows are the path that people who died use to walk to up to heaven. But both of them can be true. **** And since we're speaking of rainbows, here's a is a 1940 song called "Playmate" {words & music by Saxie Dowell}: Play-mate, come out an play with me, And bring your dollies three Climb up my apple tree. Look down my rain pipe. Slide down my kitchen door, And we'll be jolly friends For ever more. {quoted from Opies's "The Singing Game", 1985 Children in the USA, Great Britain, and elsewhere have transformed this song into a rhyme called "Say Say My Playmate {Cee Cee My Playmate}. This rhyme is often chanted while doing handclaps. Instead of saying "look down my rain pipe", children often say "slide down my rainbow"; open my cellar door..any we'll be jolly friends for ever more.." That's the folk process at work!! "Slide down my rainbow" makes more sense than "look down my rain pipe" any day! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: robomatic Date: 20 Mar 05 - 02:05 PM Maybe pay a visit here: Lucky Charms - Do You Think It's Too Much? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,*laura* Date: 20 Mar 05 - 11:43 AM Has anyone ever seen a triple rainbow? I have, just once. It was pretty impressive. xLx |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: dianavan Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:15 AM I was once gazing at the rainbow and perceived the form of a woman sliding into my being. I then very distinctly heard a hello from within my womb. I realized, I was pregnant! Everybody wondered how I could be so sure that the child would be a girl. During a very long labour with this child, I felt weak and exhausted. I managed to look out the window to see a rainbow shining over the sea. I was immediately energized and gave birth a few minutes later to a daughter who seemed ancient even then. I now think the rainbow is the path for souls waiting to be born. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 19 Mar 05 - 11:13 PM Hi Honolulu Baby! Welcome to Mudcat's BS section! And thanks for your comments!! I'll have to read up on brother iz. So much to learn, so few active brain cells... :o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: honolulu baby Date: 19 Mar 05 - 11:11 PM an interesting photo of a double rainbow i took when i first got to hawaii, is what caused me to win an international photo contest. i didnt think it was all that, but who was i to argue with the judges? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: honolulu baby Date: 19 Mar 05 - 11:05 PM azizi, i think people write about rainbows a lot because there is still a lot of mystery to/in them here in hi, we have a LOT of them.they come mostly when there is a lot of rain, but it is not cloudy or gloomy. but rather bright and sunny-just raining very hard. in fact, the rainbow was the name of the uh football team, and is the logo on the license plate. i am so facinated by them, i have a collection of rainbow pictures that i have taken myself. one of the most popularly updated song is the 'brother iz' version of 'somewhere over the rainbow'. it is used in the current hallmark commercials, and has been used in many other commercials and movies. brother iz was a legend in his own time in hawaii. he was one of the (or the only) very few to be laid at rest in the state capital rotunda. check out brother iz on the internet for more info. if you could get to the other side of YOUR rainbow, youd be in hawaii with me! we can dream, cant we? honolulu baby |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: beardedbruce Date: 19 Mar 05 - 06:37 PM from a post above... "The Wizard of Oz was written in 1915. " This is an incorrect statement. "Having this thought in mind, the story of "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" was written solely to please children of today. It aspires to being a modernized fairy tale, in which the wonderment and joy are retained and the heartaches and nightmares are left out. L. Frank Baum Chicago, April, 1900." |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 19 Mar 05 - 06:22 PM Heaven will be lots like parts of my youth that I spend in wilderness areas, countryside places and peaceful lakes with just-so water for swimming and drinking. If that ain't Heaven after death, it sure was after life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 19 Mar 05 - 03:06 AM Because I was curious to see what others would say first, I decided to wait for a while before sharing my belief about what is over the rainbow. When I was a child I thought that HEAVEN was on the other side of the rainbow. I also thought that when a person died a rainbow appeared somewhere-perhaps not where we could see it, but in another place within that city or country...And that person who had jsut died would use that rainbow as a bridge to walk up through the clouds until tehy arrived at heaven. The rainbow would then dip back down to the ground so that another person could start the walk up to heaven from that direction. It's funny how some parts of our childhood beliefs stay with us. I still associate rainbows with my ideas about death, and dying and heaven. However, my basic ideas about heaven itself have changed. I used to think that heaven was a place in the sky that where God lived and where angels dressed in white robes flew around all the time playing small harps..Thanks to books I have read on on auras and reincarnation and other such subjects, I have very much revised this image of heaven. Another thing that reinforced the ideas that these books provided about heaven was this psychic reading that I experienced when I was in my early twenties. An acquaintance who I didn't know very well raved about this psychic reader that he had gone to and I decided to make an appointment with this reader. This was the first psychic I had ever gone to and wasn't sure what "a psychic reading" would be like. I thought that the psychic would be some New Age type women dressed in a flowing robe with a turban on her hair..Instead she was the epitome of what I imagined a very well to do White woman would look and dress like. The woman greeted me in a nicely decorated room that had no incense, dim lights, crystal ball, or spiritual music playing. She then told me that she had to sit quietly for a few minutes to "concentrate her energy". Then this psychic began the reading by telling me that she saw a man who had just entered the room. She then said that the man was from 'the other side'. She proceeded to describe him to me as a tall, distinquished, bald headed man who was either my father or my grandfather. She also said that the man told her that he had died in great pain. I immediately knew that the psychic was describing my beloved grandfather who was,indeed,THE father figure in my life. The psychic then said that the man she saw {and I could not see} wanted me to be sure of his identity. He therefore imitated doing different things that I would remember about him-like pretending to take a coin out of his ear, and folding paper and then cutting it out in such a way that there would be a string of dolls holding hands. The psychic also repeated my grandfather's decription of a piano that he had in his parlor that played without anyone touching it..{As a child I thought that was very magical. Now I know there was some kind of paper thingys that you put in somewhere and these player pianos would play music..but I still don't really know how they work} After he had established his identity, my grandfather then described being in a place of learning located in a grassy area. He tld the psychic that he wanted me to know that he was fine. He also made this "Hooray!" gesture that is performed by putting both fists over one shoulder and then over the next shoulder. In doing so the pyschic wanted me to know that my grandfather was saying that he was pleased with what I was doing and wanted me to keep up the good work. Obviously I was emotionally moved by these words. And if that had been the end of the psychic reading I would have considered the session to be worth much more than the $20.00 it had cost. But the psychic proceeded to tell me some things that I knew already {like my time of birth. My mother had told me that I was born around 12 o'clock in the morning-this pyschic said that she saw a clock and the hands showed 11:27 PM changing to 11:28PM}. The woman also told me some things that have since come to pass {for instance, she saw a lot of Black babies in the sky smiling down at me..At the time I thought it meant that I was going to have alot of children..Now I think that those babies probably represented the work that I eventually did in adoption as well as the work that I did with homeless pregnant women and new mothers}. Furthermore, the psychic gave me an explanation for some phobias I had at that time. For example, I always had a fear of heights and I had a recurring dream as a child about "pie face people" chasing me. When I asked the psychic about any of my past lifes, she tells me that she sees this scene of me as an Asian man who is running for my life away from these other Asians who are a different ethnic group than me..But, in my haste to get away from these men, I fell off of a mountain and died. That psychic reading was such a profound experience for me..Thinking back it's interesting that I never went back to that woman for another reading. I have even forgotten the woman's name...Maybe it was supposed to be a one time thing. But there is no doubt that this psyschic reading reinforced my image of heaven as a place of rest & recuperation & learning for souls before they reincarnated again. Since I still associate rainbows with heaven, I believe that it would not be off topic to ask others to psot on this thread their ideas about what heaven might look like or be like. Anyone? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: beardedbruce Date: 19 Mar 05 - 01:40 AM of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 19 Mar 05 - 01:18 AM I had to think about it, but I did finally figure out what brucie 's 14 Mar 05 - 12:08 AM post means "and if ya've ever seen a double rainbow, notice that they are mirror images. One goes ROY G BIV and the other goes VIB G YOR" Did anyone else get it?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: LilyFestre Date: 18 Mar 05 - 05:37 PM I took a photo of a rainbow a number of years ago in Rhode Island. The rainbow is bending slightly over the Newport Bridge and promptly ends at the toll booth where each car must pay $4.00 to cross the bridge. It's not a pot of gold but it sure is close!!!! Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Blissfully Ignorant Date: 18 Mar 05 - 05:08 PM Care bears. I know, i've been. :0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,*Laura* Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:39 PM Over the rainbow there is a lovely place where grass is green and the sky is blue - like the Diesal advert! Yes - that Diesal advert ('Hate something, Change something, Hate something, change something, make something better - hate is a good thing') that advert - THAT is what is over the rainbow! Really. And the song as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:38 PM What's over the rainbow? Clouds, mostly. Perhaps a few stray birds? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:36 AM It's written on the rainbow - in letters made of gold Watch the doughnut - not the hole! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:29 AM LOL And crows. Crows too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:26 AM ----ing bluebirds! don't you lot ever listen to anything! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:23 AM "bah to all that technical lingo. we all need hopes and dreams" True to that. But sometimes the technical lingo helps people present their dreams in a form other than words. Simple and pretty 'nother |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:43 AM I love the fact that this thread has become a place for sharing witty comments, reflections about hopes & dreams, AND technical information about photography. When you start a thread you never know where the conversation will lead. I've been delighted at the twists and turns that this thread has taken thus far. Keep imagining!! Keep thinking!! Keep sharing!! Azizi |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:51 AM bah to all that technical lingo. we all need hopes and dreams. sometimes they come true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:55 PM Picture worth a thousand words Good article |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:40 PM I hear you, Bunn. Kodak put out a good small magazine on infrared b and w. I have it somewhere. Maybe I can come up with an SBN or ISBN. I'll look. It's in a box, so don't wait up nights. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 10:37 PM I've been trying to find a good, simple, explaination of focusing for IR, and can't. And Brucie demonstarted how hard ir is to write one. Google it, experiment, and don't expect it to be great at first. Like lots of things in life really.... There is one excption, if you use a mirror lens, which focuses visible and IR at the same point. 500mm is a useful general purpose lens isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:30 PM Infrared light has a different range of wavelengths than visible light, so it is bent a different amountby the lens - thus it will be focused by the lens at a different distance - this means that it will be out of focus compared with normal light. This effect is more pronounced when the lens is wide open - closing down the aperture to the f32 setting gives you an opening closer to a pinhole - where these effects disappear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: heric Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:11 PM Bronco Bob's Apricot Chipotle Sauce |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:06 PM No Brucie, you did a better job than I could. I realize my explanation of the curved line thing leaves lots to be desired. If yer gonna shoot infrared, ask at the camera store. Someone there should help you is honest and helpful. I cheat. Tripod and f 32. I know it will be in focus then. The only camera I have with an IR curve on it is a Medium format TLR, from the mid 60's. The modern ones have nothing of the sort on them. Bunnhabhain |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:38 PM Nada |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 04:28 PM Maybe then you could take a shot at explaining it, Bunnahabhain. I know the job I did bolloxed it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 01:12 PM Sorry, the above guest was me. Yep, that explaination of IR focusing confused me, and I've done it. I'm just changing over to a digital SLR, but I'm holding onto a film camera for things like IR, and star trails, and other unusual tricks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:43 PM Infrared film senses heat. Colour infrared provides a slide that gives a colour shift. (It has been years since I used that film, because there are maybe three labs in North America that will process it at a reasonable price). Where the heat is on black and white film is where the print will show darkest. It can be used to take a picture of yer house so you can see where your main areas of heat loss are. As an incidental thing. On the lens of the camera you should see a curved line that goes fron the camera body to the end of the lens. That line is the black and white correction line for focussing b and w infrared film. You focus the camera normally--that is, look through your 'lens' and focus. Hold fairly still. Take the lens and without changing the positioning of the camera, turn the lens so that the curve line meets with the 'notch' line on the camrea. That will have focussed you for the shot. When you look through the lensd to take the picture, it woill appear to be out of focus. It would be with any other film but b and w infrared. I realize my explanation of the curved line thing leaves lots to be desired. If yer gonna shoot infrared, ask at the camera store. Someone there should help you. BM |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:33 PM Good question, Davetnova. I remember that the photo of the infrared bow was in black and white, but I don't remember whether the infrared bow was darker or lighter than the rest. Bunn... says dark. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,Heimdall Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:47 AM Over Bifrost is Valhalla, should you be chosen by the Valkyries. If you are not, Hel awaits. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:35 AM Can they? I've never seen that before. Thank you for one of those useless bits of trivia.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,Brucie Date: 14 Mar 05 - 10:25 AM Sorry. The above was me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 05 - 10:24 AM Infrared photos can also be done in colour. The developing is a normal colour process, and using the film (100 ASA) requires no lens correction. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:00 AM Infra red photos are black and white, and I think the invisible bands on the inside should show up as very dark in one. I've not used the stuff for ages. The full circle rainbows, seen from tall mountains and aircraft are very pretty. Bunnahabhain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Pied Piper Date: 14 Mar 05 - 08:31 AM 'O see ye not yon narrow road, So thick beset wi' thorns and briers? That is the Path of Righteousness, Though after it but few inquires. 'And see ye not yon braid, braid road, 45 That lies across the lily leven? That is the Path of Wickedness, Though some call it the Road to Heaven. 'And see ye not yon bonny road That winds about the fernie brae? 50 That is the Road to fair Elfland, Where thou and I this night maun gae. PP |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: SINSULL Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:40 AM Over the rainbow is where you will find all the the good doggies and kitties and scaly and fuzzy friends we were lucky enough to know on this side. I still laugh at Sister Blister insisting that we wouldn't find our pets in Heaven becuase they don't have souls. The hubris of it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Davetnova Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:08 AM What colour was the photograph of the infrared bow? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 Mar 05 - 05:37 AM Ah! the two Russian Twins... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:08 AM ROY G BIV and if ya've ever seen a double rainbow, notice that they are mirror images. One goes ROY G BIV and the other goes VIB G YOR. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 13 Mar 05 - 11:52 PM Science: I saw a slide once where a physicist (Robert Greenler) had put infrared film in his camera and photographed the infrared bow that inside the red stripe of the rainbow. Quite possibly the first time anyone had ever seen it. Fiction: The Wizard of Oz was written in 1915. Dorothy is living with her aunt and uncle. So she has lost her parents, perhaps to WWI and/or an epidemic. (Public health was pretty dismal then.) The land over the rainbow is Heaven, where her mother and father have gone. Instead of Heaven, she gets Oz. Poor kid. But at least you can get back from Oz. In the book, Dorothy's trip to Oz was real. It was Hollywood that tacked on the cheap ending that makes her adventure seem like something she dreamed in a coma. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Boab Date: 13 Mar 05 - 11:39 PM ---Er---a Scotsman wi' a pie??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Troll Date: 13 Mar 05 - 07:58 PM Waddaya mean "non-existant"? I've been there LOTS of times! Although it's usually after I've fiddled with my medication. You know, different color combinations, numbers, that sort of thing. Gotta run. They're looking for me again. In haste, troll |
