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Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3

Stilly River Sage 15 Aug 25 - 04:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Aug 25 - 04:48 PM

I also posted this in the music of the Trump era thread, but it's a good one for here also:

Came across this on YouTube, a link posted on FB by Janis Ian.

When That Man is Dead And Gone was written by Irving Berlin in 1941 about Hitler, but it of course fits perfectly today.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 25 - 11:47 AM

Trump says he gets Putin, but Putin has got Trump.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Aug 25 - 01:04 PM

Tomorrow, Friday, the Ides of August 2025, is the day for Russia to make peace with Ukraine and get the current resident short selected for the Noleb Przie.

TRMP and Putain are expected to be a couple miles away, but on military property, tomorrow for the bilateral summit from which nothing is to be expected. Saw a van labeled Youtube driving away from Starbucks and vaguely wondered it there would be a live podcast.

We have a Republican Governor and our single Rep and one sycophant Senator and one Senator with a brain. Given the current miasma of extreme partisanship, I don't expect that last one to be invited.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 12:22 PM

The only arrest by the occupying force in DC is a resident throwing a wrapped submarine sandwich at an FBI agent. The sub owner was charged with assault. I don't think the sandwich penetrated the bulletproof vest.

When offering a sub to law enforcement, one should extend the sandwich on bended knee.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 06:32 AM

Trump orders museums to reflect his view of American history.
That includes removing Frederick Douglass' memoirs, MLK'd bible and 32 other race related items. Confederate statues are returning as well as Army base names being named after Confederates.

Will General Custer win the battle of Little Big Horn?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 03:21 AM

Donald Trump's National Guard troop deployment tests limits of 150yo law

"US President Donald Trump is pushing the bounds of military activity on American soil, but a 150-year-old law could spell trouble for his plans.

"On Monday, Mr Trump said he was deploying the National Guard and taking over Washington, DC's police department to reduce crime in the nation's capital.

"As hundreds of National Guard troops filed into Washington, DC on Tuesday, a judge thousands of miles away in California was hearing arguments about whether such an act violated federal law.

"The three-day, no-jury trial is considering whether the Trump administration violated the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act when it mobilised the National Guard during protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles in June.

"Experts say in both the California and Washington cases, there are clear limitations to the law's enforcement."

...


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Aug 25 - 04:21 PM

Washington DC is affectionately called Chocolate City, not out of racism but out of a recognition of a black majority. If Trump can cause enough black people to demonstrate against the military presence in DC he may put his troops to use by having a mass shooting.
In his first term, he wanted to shoot demonstrators in the legs.

He has plans to federalize other cities with black mayors.
Trump does not have the legal authority to deploy National Guard troops in our cities beyond 30 days without congressional approval.
So far, that hasn't stopped his performance in LA with his toy soldiers.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Aug 25 - 02:50 PM

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/08/trumps-defense-secretary-seems-to-admire-men-who-want-to-stop-women-from-voting/


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Aug 25 - 11:41 AM

Loyal MAGAtes have to believe a staggering number of lies.
Trump won the 2020 election
mRNA vaccines sicken the inoculated
Biden protected the Epstein child sex trafficking
Trump enacted emergency powers because of an invading army of MS-13
DOGE has saved the taxpayer billions
The President should profit from his side hustles like everyone else.
Immigrants must be punished for voting and using Medicare
The FBI was the deep state enforcer for Democrats
Tariffs are paid by countries that commit trade imbalance
Trump appointees are the best in their field
Zelensky started the Ukraine war
etc.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Aug 25 - 09:14 AM

Was Trump wandering on the roof of the White House a promo for the Trump Center musical 'Swindler on the Roof'?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Aug 25 - 08:41 AM

Nigel, you are as sharp as ever. Methinks a prior diagnosis was BS.
As for RFK who is not a doctor, scientist, has never done a clinical trial but has canceled funding for research in cancer, dementia, childhood disease, vaccines and the NIH budget.

The RNA covid vaccine during the Trump term saved 4 million lives in the US alone.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Aug 25 - 08:34 AM

right on!

another good article I read today - America will be the chief victim of Trump’s tariffs rampage The US economy will bear the brunt of the president’s destructive trade war

Donald Trump has succeeded in forcing America’s democratic allies to their knees. His country must henceforth live with the invidious consequences of what he has done.

“It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal,” to borrow a line from Henry Kissinger.

Vladimir Putin has strung Trump along for six months without paying a price. China has turned the tables, forcing the White House to hand over Nvidia H20 chips in exchange for rare earth magnets that Trump should have thought about before launching his trade war. Didn’t the US treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, say China was playing with a “pair of twos”?

Trump’s full viciousness is reserved for Canada, a Five-Eye and core NATO loyalist, so dependable that America can leave its entire northern border undefended. It is punished with 35pc tariffs, hit harder because it dares to differ on the Middle East, though the effects will ricochet straight back into the US economy. (read on)


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Aug 25 - 07:05 AM

So the good news, I suppose, is that Trump’s Chatbot agrees with those of us who have more than half a brain.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Aug 25 - 06:16 AM

a few extracts

New chatbot on Trump’s Truth Social platform keeps contradicting him wasn’t stolen, tariffs aren’t boosting the stock market and Barack Obama is seen favorably.

President Donald Trump and the new AI search tool on his social media network, Truth Social, don’t exactly see eye to eye.

Truth Search AI contradicts the president by saying that tariffs are a tax on Americans, the 2020 election wasn’t stolen, and his family’s cryptocurrency investments pose a potential conflict of interest. Asked about Jan. 6, 2021, it said the “insurrection” at the U.S. Capitol was violent and linked to Trump’s “baseless claims of widespread election fraud.” ...

... Artificial intelligence tools don’t always give the answers their owners might want or expect. ...

... The White House declined to comment. Trump Media spokeswoman Shannon Devine said: “With transparently asinine stories like this, Washington Post reporters indict themselves as irrelevant partisan hacks who will probably soon join the growing exodus of left-wing shills from the paper.” ...

... But the size of their disagreements suggests that, if the tool were a person, it may not last long as a Trump employee. Asked to name the best president, Truth Search AI said “recent public opinion polls show that Barack Obama holds the highest favorability among living U.S. presidents,” listing as its source a Fox News article from shortly after Trump’s second inauguration.

The tool did note, however, that “conservative commentators” had often named Trump as the best. “Different groups and surveys prioritize different qualities,” it said.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 10 Aug 25 - 07:16 PM

Donuel. I feel my earlier response to one of your comments may have been too subtle.

The pathological narcissist feels clever, blinding people to reality.
How true!


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Aug 25 - 11:40 AM

RFK keeps saying the CDC is a cesspool of fraud and lies.
Now that a Trump antivaxer has shot up the CDC in Atlanta with assault weapons, RFK has yet to condemn the shooter. The Surgeon General has condemned RFK.

Political violence is on the rise. Death threats are as common as dirt. Shootings and assaults are commonplace among Judges and Democratic politicians. With the wealth concentrated in the 1 percent and MAGA feeling incapable of punishment by the President, it will become worse.

Trump uses the bloody ear photo inscribed with FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT to indicate to shoot back.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Aug 25 - 10:54 AM

As long as Congress passes no law, Trump's executive orders can all be reversed with a new President's executive order. You can't reverse the damage done as easily.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Aug 25 - 06:24 PM

He wants to do a lot of stuff that he can't do, but he seems to be doing a lot of stuff that he shouldn't do because the Congress isn't doing their job and managing those things (tariffs, immigration, funding agencies, closing agencies, destroying international accords, etc.)


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Aug 25 - 06:22 PM

There are made up statistics on every political spectrum like an unexpected $1,000 setback would strap half of all Americans.
Trump wants to make a new Census that he wants to control so he can gerrymander America to forever be MAGA.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Aug 25 - 11:56 AM

She did it. I heard the story yesterday, probably on NPR.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Aug 25 - 10:27 AM

Trouble is, Don, we never know if your posts are genuine information, your opinion or just made up. It would help considerably if you were to quote sources.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 03:51 PM

More powerful than LSD 25 is the Trump medicine LSS 25.
Lazy, Sloppy, Stupid 2025.

Tulsi Gabbard declassified the Russian election interference CIA files for Trump and accidentally revealed sources and methods.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 01:20 PM

ICE is now hiring teenagers on their 18th birthday to be armed, masked agents.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 06:04 AM

A coding error was blamed for the government website copy of the Constitution, which somehow had deleted habeas corpus and emoluments clauses.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 05:49 AM

Fascism and super capitalism have changed along with the internet.

Trump is in full distraction mode, along with wandering on the White House roof, threatening to federalize Washington DC, Treason charges, and more bizarre Epstein moves.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Lighter
Date: 05 Aug 25 - 08:02 AM

In 1986-87 President Ronald Reagan signed legislation granting amnesty to millions of law-abiding non-citizens who had entered the country illegally before 1982. Reagan and the Congress recognized just how vital these tax-paying workers are to the U.S. economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

The important issue isn't the number of detention centers. It's who's being taken there, how, why, with what due process, and where they're being deported to afterward. The administration has opened all these issues t question.

As for the "worst of the worst," suspected felons have been arrested, convicted, and deported all along as a matter of routine law enforcement.

What's changed since 1987?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Aug 25 - 06:19 AM

" NEVER AGAIN ! is made a mockery by the exception of hundreds of Trump detention camps."

A cursory glance at the internet shows me that the USA has had hundreds of detention camps for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_immigrant_detention_sites_in_the_United_States

Nothing to do with Trump


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Aug 25 - 02:15 PM

If you found that folks in the US didn’t want to talk about politics, despite being in the eye of the Trump storm, it is the result of the fear the average person or business person feels from the administration. This is similar to East Germany and Soviet methods of control.

I have seen the same from folks around here. Folks either strongly condemn the dictator or they feign an agnostic opinion.
If I go further and ask if they feel fear as part of their outlook is when they outright lie and claim they feel no fear whatsoever. Even fear itself is part of the Trump loyalty cult to be afraid of.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 07:57 PM

It's hard to find headroom for the thousands of daily Trump corrupt cliff hangers.

NEVER AGAIN ! is made a mockery by the exception of hundreds of Trump detention camps.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Lighter
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 07:08 PM

The government is now investigating former special counsel Jack Smith for "unprecedented interference in the 2024 election."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 05:21 PM

Thanks Sandra,

I just read that article. It was long but Nick Bryant has an interesting perspective and observations on how America has changed since he first started visiting the country.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 05:01 PM

Australian perspective - It’s the summer of Trump and the world can’t look away Returning to the US for the first time in four years, I found a country that didn’t want to talk about politics, despite being in the eye of the Trump storm.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 09:25 AM

The pathological narcissist feels clever, blinding people to reality.
How true!


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 09:22 AM

The pathological narcissist feels clever, blinding people to reality.
HOWEVER, criticism should not be blind either.
If Trump does something successfully, even if it is as accidental as a blind squirrel finding a nut, it should be noted.

This could prove to be quite a challenge.
Being a kinder, gentler Hitler wouldn't qualify, but there has to be a success somewhere in the sewerage.

One was the prediction that tariffs would cripple the economy by July 4th.
That did not happen because tariffs were delayed several times.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 08:40 AM

At this transitional time, hope is a slender branch that won't even cushion the fall of the climate into devastating extremes. Hope is the panning for gold in the toxic river of Styx. Hope is pinned beneath denial, and the silencing of science and research.

Kamala claims the system is broken. The pathological narcissist feels clever, blinding people to reality because the victims and suckers are just meddlesome nothings from their perspective. Breaking the system down to the university's curriculum and diversity is underway.

They say you can't cure stupid, nor can you create empathy in social psychopaths. They will cry their lies to their dying day.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 07:07 PM

I just watched Kamala Harris on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. She is very inspirational, and she said some very proactive comments about how important it is for the people of America to stand up for what you believe in and not capitulate to threats. She also stressed the built-in strength of the democratic process and public service institutions and a hope that they will withstand the current attacks, if people and politicians don't capitulate.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Lighter
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 05:42 PM

This month's economic indicators were poor. Therefore the president has fired the Congressionally confirmed Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, expressly for manipulating and falsifying the figures.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 04:03 PM

The sexual predator got some perks from the Trump folks. From the New York Times:
The move, which was reported earlier by The New York Sun, came about a week after Ms. Maxwell was interviewed over two days about the Epstein case by Todd Blanche, the No. 2 official in the Justice Department and one of President Trump’s former lawyers.

Ms. Maxwell’s lawyer, David O. Markus, declined to comment on the reason for the move.

According to Bureau of Prison regulations, inmates designated as sex offenders are generally supposed to be held in low-security prisons, like the facility in Tallahassee, Fla., where Ms. Maxwell had been previously held, not in minimum-security facilities, like her new prison camp in Bryan, Texas. . . .Ms. Maxwell has made it clear that she would like a pardon or for her sentence to be thrown out or reduced. Mr. Trump has not indicated what he intends to do but has told reporters that he is legally allowed to pardon Ms. Maxwell (emphasis mine)

Family members of three of the Epstein victims responded ""President Trump has sent a clear message today: Pedophiles deserve preferential treatment and their victims do not matter.""

Considering the ages of the young women Trump was thumping in Epstein's club or island or behind the scenes at the junior miss pageants he ran, this would seem to be true.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 03:43 PM

Thanks for your insights, Donuel. I like this line, "Posting in a category known as BS is ironic for the few truth tellers". Literally LOL.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Lighter
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 03:33 PM

Ms. Maxwell has just been transferred to a "less-restrictive" prison in Texas.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 07:31 AM

Most of the things people are taught to believe are hyped bullshit

What things are people 'taught to believe'? Want sort of a percentage of these things is 'most'?

It is little wonder that people do not take you seriously, Don, when you post 'hyped bullshit' yourself


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 07:21 AM

I live in a country that demands a loyalty oath to believe in lies.
I know the kind of trouble and controversy that speaking the truth can cause.
However, I am not alone; I am merely in the minority. Perhaps blowback will change that.
There is also the purity test against being off color, but the world of man can be a very dirty place.

Posting in a category known as BS is ironic for the few truth tellers.
Most of the things people are taught to believe are hyped bullshit.
Religion, politics, and rewritten history are a few examples.

Trump won because he was politically incorrect.
Now we are paying the lying piper. Literally.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Aug 25 - 02:16 AM

I’m waiting with bated breath for another ‘suicide’.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 07:26 PM

Epstein accuser Giuffre's family urges Trump to keep Maxwell in prison

"In short: The family of the late Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre has urged the US Justice Department not to grant clemency to Ghislaine Maxwell following a recent meeting.

"Their statement comes as Donald Trump faced pressure to make public documents from the federal investigations into Epstein, and his long-time girlfriend Maxwell, who was convicted of sex trafficking in 2021.
"
What's next? A senior Trump administration official said no leniency for Maxwell was being considered or offered."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 06:17 PM

"This whole scandal is a hoax".
quote Donald Trump

He also said it is a witch hunt. Is it a hoax witch hunt?

Not all the 1,000+ girls were underage, but many were.
Maxwell managed the girls in Florida on autopilot by paying the girls $200 to promote new victims.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 12:10 PM

justice? Prince Andrew will not be prosecuted, after all he has to look after teddy bears
Don't mess with Prince Andrew and his teddy bears. The Duke of York reportedly has an obsession with his prized collection of teddy bears, which must be placed in perfect order in his bedroom. The claim was made by royal author Tom Quinn, who has penned a new book, Yes, Ma'am: The Secret Life of Royal Servants.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 05:17 AM

So do I, Helen.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 02:17 AM

Yes, Virginia Giuffre is gone from the physical life but her strong voice will live on. She had a powerful effect in achieving justice. I greatly admire her strength and courage.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 01:31 AM

Another mysterious ‘suicide’. I wonder who orders these ‘suicides’? And I wonder when Ghislaine Maxwell will be ‘suicided’…?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Pappy Fiddle
Date: 30 Jul 25 - 11:57 PM

Virginia Giuffre was a victim of these creeps. She moved to Australia and was an activist against sexual abuse by rich powerful people and "provided critical information to law enforcement that contributed to the investigation into and later the conviction of Epstein’s associate Ghislaine Maxwell".

Where is she now? Dead.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/virginia-giuffre-one-jeffrey-epsteins-%20%2


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