BS: Palin quotes are a hoax

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: DougR
Date: 13 Nov 08 - 12:11 AM

kendall: do you know what the duties of the VP are?

I suspect it varies from one administration to another, but I really don't know myself.

Think Joe Biden knows?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 11:45 PM

This is as much an indictment of the mainstream media as it is of bloggers. What it tells us is that the mainstream media is no more reliable than bloggers are. Hopefully it will cause them to be more careful in the future. (Probably won't, though... )

I don't see any difference between people saying Palin is dumb, and people saying Bush is dumb. It's not because of their gender in either case, but because they come across as inarticulate and not very intelligent.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Beer
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 10:24 PM

Well said Bee-dubya-ell

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 10:15 PM

"...because she was a woman". Ah yes, more drivel from our most reliable source.

Just read what Sorcha says: Sarah is an ignorant bigot. Her sex is immaterial.

Don't worry, we'd criticize David Duke just as much. She's our updated version of Mr. Duke. Anybody who stirs up crowds to shout "Kill him " and ""Terrorist" and does nothing about calming them down should not whine about mistreatment by the "liberal media".

McCain had at least his one moment of "No, ma'am, he's not an Arab. He's a good family man who I have some major disagreements with".


Sarah thought--and probably still thinks--nothing of appealing to racist fears or anything else to establish Obama as "different"---gee, I wonder how.

No surprise that somebody who has lived in the gutter for at least a year--and has no use for Mexicans or prominent black people (based on Mudcat posts), still defends Sarah.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:52 PM

It's pretty obvious to me that Governor Palin didn't have the best interests of her fellow Alaskans in mind when she was spouting that near-slanderous rhetoric on the campaign trail. Her team lost, the other guys won, and paybacks are hell.

I was taught long ago that it makes good business sense to maintain cordial relations with your competitor today, because that competitor might be your boss tomorrow. Well, Governor Palin's gonna have a new boss in a couple of months, and she's probably done a pretty good job of pissing the guy off. Any bill that comes across President Obama's desk with any Alaska-bound pork in it's gonna get vetoed.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:22 PM

I think a big part of it was because she was a woman. Those kinds of people would have happily done the same thing to Hillary.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:03 PM

Did anybody say it was because she was a woman, rather than an idiot? Or am I missing something?

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:53 PM

So, why am I not surprised about this? OK, attack the woman on her views and policies...and STOP the lies and woman hating CRAP!


No, she is NOT fit to be the Vice President, OR the President of this country but it is NOT because she is a WOMAN! It's because she is a narrow minded, ignorant bigot!














And no, she doesn't have a 'dong' either......

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Beer
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:38 PM

Sarah Who?

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:07 PM

Well-put, Amos.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:04 PM

Well it WAS a mean-spirited joke to play, and she was the perfect target for it because she had been similarly mean-spirited in distorting the truth about her opponents in the Presidential campaign. But it is unlikely she is up to the sort of reflection that leads to wondering what one has done oneself that mirrors the disservices coming in from the world.


I am sure, in the right-size pond, that Ms. Palin is a perfectly fine citizen and individual. She does not have the breadth of insight and understanding to be able to manage a national post.

She has demonstrated that live in several ways which have already been beaten to death hereabouts.

I wish her happiness in Alaska, and hope she remains there.



A

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:03 PM

Oh, I'm not saying McCain and Palin and people in their campaign didn't engage in some very slimy smears against Obama. They did indeed. They did so blatantly.

However, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It's equally nasty regardless which side of the line it's on, agreed?

What I am questioning here is the self-righteous puffing of people who get really angry about these bad things other people do...but who are quite eager and enthusiastic in doing (or supporting) those same type of bad things themselves whenever it happens to suit their own political agenda.

There's a word for that. I think you know what it is.

In responding aggressively to false accusations, Palin is not showing she has a thin skin...she's showing that she is forthright in defending herself, which is a useful characteristic when you're in politics.

By the way, I think she'd make a terrible president! Just so you don't entirely misconstrue the point I am making here... ;-)

My point here isn't regarding Sarah Palin herself. My point is regarding people in general, and the nastiness and self-serving hypocrisy of partisan politics in particular.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:02 PM

I wonder if the practice of the USA being called "America" originated in the USA or happened elsewhere and got taken up in the USA subsequently? Or was it the other way round?

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:55 PM

Africa is a continent. South Africa is a country.

South America is a continent. America* is a country.

Go figure.


*(Yeah, I know there's not really a country called "America" but its use is common and widespread. If you wanna get pedantic about it, bite me.)

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:46 PM

I'm with Ebbie on this one. Palin has been bitching about being "mistreated" during the campaign. What about her slanders about Obama? Did she think she could say what she pleased and then not get slammed in return?
Sound like she needs a thicker skin if she plans to run again. There have been articles naming her as the hope of the Republican Party. Great! 12 more years! 12 more years!

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:37 PM

Sounds like a sneaky way of providing a credible source for something that was actually true.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:34 PM

um. How about Palin's complaint since that, if she confused Africa the continent and Africa the country in the context of briefing she thinks it's "mean-spirited, immature", etc, to bring it up?

Doesn't sound all made up to me. We know that she said that part.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: kendall
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:33 PM

That may be so, but she sure as hell had no clue about the duties of the VP.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:32 PM

Well, no wonder she was so steamed about it. I must say that some of Mrs Palin's political enemies have gone to pretty unsavory extremes to damage her reputation, whatever her presumed unsuitability may be for the office of Vice President.

Subject: BS: Palin quotes are a hoax
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 06:30 PM

I put this on the "... sorry for Palin" thread, but thought it deserved its own headline:

The recent "Palin quotes from a campaign insider" were apparently an elaborate hoax: Fake expert and phony think tank -- NY Times.

A Senior Fellow at the Institute of Nonexistence
By RICHARD PEREZ-PENA
Published: November 12, 2008

"It was among the juicier post-election recriminations: Fox News Channel quoted an unnamed McCain campaign figure as saying that Sarah Palin did not know that Africa was a continent.

Who would say such a thing? On Monday the answer popped up on a blog and popped out of the mouth of David Shuster, an MSNBC anchor. "Turns out it was Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, who has come forward today to identify himself as the source of the leaks," Mr. Shuster said.

Trouble is, Martin Eisenstadt doesn't exist. His blog does, but it's a put-on. The think tank where he is a senior fellow — the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy — is just a Web site. The TV clips of him on YouTube are fakes.

And the claim of credit for the Africa anecdote is just the latest ruse by Eisenstadt, who turns out to be a very elaborate hoax that has been going on for months. MSNBC, which quickly corrected the mistake, has plenty of company in being taken in by an Eisenstadt hoax, including The New Republic and The Los Angeles Times."

~ Becky in Tucson