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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 24 - 06:33 PM No problem Sandman, Stilly is sometimes haughtily strict. If RFK thinks all vaccines are federally mandated he is totally misinformed. Its the States that have the final say on vaccines. However, On September 9, 2021, the Biden Administration implemented Executive Order (E.O.) 14043. This E.O. required federal employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by November 8, 2021, or risk removal or termination from their federal employment. (Republican version of truth) In September 2021, the employees of all federally-funded Medicaid and Medicare-certified healthcare facilities, and Head Start program facilities, were required to be vaccinated, as ordered through the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). (Democratic version of truth) 9 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 13 Dec 24 - 05:52 PM Yes, homeboy, it's a laugh riot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 13 Dec 24 - 04:59 PM I am not saying you are lying, i am quoting a link in the guardian. here is the quote Kennedy, a leading vaccine sceptic, has insisted he has no plans to revoke vaccines should he be confirmed by the US Senate for the health secretary position. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 24 - 03:51 PM WHILE HUMOR DID NOT WIN THE DAY with Stalin or Trump, leave the door open for humor to be a weapon. The HUGE number of Stalin jokes still works for authoritarians TODAY. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 24 - 03:38 PM It goes back to a fraud study committed by a British doctor who claimed childhood vaccines caused autism. Conspiracy theories spun out of control of the facts. Dr. Brainworm has gone way down the rabbit hole. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Big Al Whittle Date: 13 Dec 24 - 03:21 PM what has RFK got against vaccines? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 13 Dec 24 - 02:22 PM Sorry, Dude, this tragedy hasn't turned to comedy for me yet and probably never will. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 24 - 02:15 PM AH c'mon Trump has a lovable nutjob side as well as a dangerous psychopath who lives by whim, chaos and egotistic gut feelings as long as there is something in it for himself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 13 Dec 24 - 02:05 PM There is nothing "fun" about Trump and letting RFK Nutbag Jr. anywhere near public health policy is criminal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 24 - 01:59 PM Yes RFK made early statements to placate vaccine advocates but my source is MSNBC this morning. Do your own research before you climb on my back or claim I am lying to you. However, I am highly curious about the MSNBC story. Trump is anti-edifying, horrific, and fun. ding ding ding. While his cruelty to the poor can be horrific his goodwill to billionaires is beyond compare. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 13 Dec 24 - 12:42 PM https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/rfk-jr-aaron-siri-polio a link from the guardian newspaper quote Kennedy, a leading vaccine sceptic, has insisted he has no plans to revoke vaccines should he be confirmed by the US Senate for the health secretary position |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Dec 24 - 11:25 AM So after I wrote that a meme popped up on Facebook from Steven Beschloss with nonsense about the polio vaccine. From one day to the next how do you make up stuff like this. But Kennedy's lawyer in the Biden term will just have to wait his turn to be stupid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Dec 24 - 11:18 AM Sources, Donuel, please. I've heard the opposite - that he and Musk want to look at the science but haven't made statements about anything so precise as that. RFK is a quack, but keeping track of the facts is still helpful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 24 - 09:05 AM RFK is having his lawyer start the process to stop using the Salk vaccine that ended the polio epidemic in 1955. RFK is a dangerous ultimate quack. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Dec 24 - 04:56 PM The FBI director says he's going to step down. Darn (and he was a Trump appointee before - go figure). Let's hope the fed chair is made of sterner stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 11 Dec 24 - 02:44 PM Among science nerds, there was something called Maxwell's demons, which made certain experiments seemingly violate the laws of thermodynamics. https://www.britannica.com/science/Maxwells-demon I wonder if Trump is full of Maxwell's demons. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Helen Date: 10 Dec 24 - 06:11 PM In preparation for the next four years, I'm just about to start re-reading a book written by Aaron James called Assholes: A Theory Not surprisingly, Donald Trump features in the book and the documentary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 10 Dec 24 - 05:55 PM Trump has appointed 11 FOX NEWS hosts and contributors to his cabinet. The one in charge of ATF, alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives is a big fan of the Unibomber like the United Healthcare CEO killer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 09 Dec 24 - 07:55 PM Trump will serve dessert first on day one and pardon the Jan. 6ers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Dec 24 - 05:30 PM Trump is putting his presidential cart way out ahead of his term in office. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 08 Dec 24 - 04:25 PM UKRAINE Trump meets with Zelensky, Zelensky requests negotiations. a promising start https://www.rte.ie/news/ukraine/2024/1208/1485308-ukraine-trump-zelensky/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 08 Dec 24 - 07:27 AM It turns out that Walmart, Amazon, and Temu are protected since Chinese products under $800 are exempt from tariffs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 07 Dec 24 - 11:42 AM Selling tariff waivers to big retail could enrich government criminals. Picking winners and losers is a plan that could be used against Bezos' Amazon by simply NOT selling him a tariff waiver. A war among billionaires could erupt somehow. Crazy? Not as crazy as a Dr. Fauci needing a presidential pardon for protecting America from HIV deaths and viral infections. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 07 Dec 24 - 11:26 AM Suppose a 60% tariff on Chinese goods is done. What would happen to Walmart, Target, Costco, Dicks, and all the other big box stores? This is how giant black markets arise via different source organizations. You can bet retail wouldn't take this lying down. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 06 Dec 24 - 12:19 PM > Being progressive like beauty is in the eye of the beholder Verily; and one man's red tape is another worker's safety measure. Give the Oikerati their heads, and we'll see the return of phossy jaw. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Backwoodsman Date: 06 Dec 24 - 12:17 PM PSA for anyone wanting to post links - here is a virtually foolproof resource kindly provided by DaveRo. I use it all the time, very easy to use. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Dec 24 - 12:04 PM Whatever that link was Dick it was mangled and no one is going to want to go to a Google mail link for it. Try another route. If you were headed for The Monroe Doctrine as your note suggested, this links to the US National Archives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 06 Dec 24 - 11:17 AM Being progressive like beauty is in the eye of the beholder |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: keberoxu Date: 06 Dec 24 - 09:00 AM Incumbent Democrat Jared Golden won his Maine district by the narrowest of margins (there was a recount). His "progressive conservatism" is worth a closer look. I've forgotten how to make a blicky (two tries - two failures), otherwise I would link to the Portland Press Herald that interviews him in depth. In a nutshell: progressive politics, conservative culture is what he practices. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 06 Dec 24 - 03:23 AM The problems do not begin and end with Trump you have had an election that gAve you a choice of two puppets who are owned by different corporations, it reminds me of a book called The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropists |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Helen Date: 05 Dec 24 - 08:16 PM I read a short, thought-provoking article by Laura Dobberstein on the website called The Register on the possible outcome of the alliance between Trump and Musk. This is the first few paragraphs: Musk and Trump to fall out in 2025, predicts analyst: Differing China tech policy agendas will send bromance into 'it's complicated' status "The CEO and founder of channel-centric analyst house Canalys has predicted that the alliance between president-elect Donald Trump and aspiring oligarch Elon Musk will unravel in 2025, putting Tesla's ability to execute on full self-driving vehicles at risk. "Speaking at the Canalys APAC Forum, Brazier said the recent US election saw 'two people elected' – the second being Musk, not vice president-elect JD Vance. "Brazier thinks Trump and Musk will fall out over China, because the former's proposed trade war against is at odds with the latter's reliance on China as a market for Tesla, as well as a source of batteries and other supplies. "Trump's promise to implement 60 percent tariffs on all Chinese goods therefore hurt Musk and Tesla. "Brazier also pointed out that Tesla's biggest factory is in Shanghai, and that Beijing gave the EV-maker the very unusual concession of not requiring it to operate a joint venture with a Chinese company. Tesla has also received subsidies from the Chinese state, and remains keen to expand its energy storage business there. "'Tesla needs batteries from China, or it cannot operate,' commented Brazier. "'But most critically for Tesla in China, they need to offer full self-driving, or they'll fall behind the innovation of the Chinese industry.' But to deliver that feature, Tesla will need to navigate China's laws around cross-border data-sharing and assure US authorities any agreement doesn't represent risk for stateside buyers. "All of this is at odds with Trump's modus operandi of 'picking fights everywhere possible as tariffs come in on China,' Brazier explained." ...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 05 Dec 24 - 07:22 PM It's a race to the bottom with those folks, who will shaft the other sooner. My money is on Trump dumping the others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 05 Dec 24 - 06:30 PM He does have a long history of screwing over his associates sooner rather than later. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Dave the Gnome Date: 05 Dec 24 - 06:19 PM On a more serious note, does Trump really think that the other power hungry creeps (yes, Elon, you at the top of that list) will do his bidding? They all have their own agendas and will stab him in the back in a flash. I think that in a year, maybe two, we will see some pretty major meltdowns. Hopefully they will destroy each other before they can do too much damage. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 05 Dec 24 - 06:17 PM Exactly, Dave, he's going to be the leader turd of the free world again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Dave the Gnome Date: 05 Dec 24 - 06:10 PM Not sure about that gillymor. Putin fits the bill. On a lesser scale, Farage is a complete turd as well. It's just a question of which sociopath can do most harm. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 05 Dec 24 - 05:59 PM Win or lose he's still the biggest P.o.S on this planet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 05 Dec 24 - 04:22 PM he might have won but not much will change, he is just another puppeton a string |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 05 Dec 24 - 02:01 PM Exactly the day after 9-11 Donald Rumsfeld announced that the financial audit of the Pentagon could not account for 2.3 Trillion dollars. It was essentially missing. Rumors claimed that it was just an accounting error. If it was, it was monumental. Musk and Ramaswamy want to reduce waste and redundancy in government spending and remove regulations that slow down billionaires' projects. Perhaps they only want to tweet about waste and missing money. Going after the black budget of the Pentagon seems like a naive thing to do. I believe that putting the squeeze on the military would be a fool's errand. But what if they succeed and find the missing money beyond $500 toilet seats? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: gillymor Date: 05 Dec 24 - 11:10 AM Yes he's a winner, as in the kid's expression "pick me a winner". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 05 Dec 24 - 11:01 AM The Winner.He won the election |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 05 Dec 24 - 10:46 AM A reasonable person adapts to the world. The unreasonable person wants the world to adapt to them. Hmm, now which is Trump? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 04 Dec 24 - 05:47 PM MY Apologies |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Thompson Date: 04 Dec 24 - 06:37 AM Ah, now. Matilda is by Hilaire Belloc. Give a writer his credit! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 04 Dec 24 - 03:06 AM Matilda told such Dreadful Lies, It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes; Her Aunt, who, from her Earliest Youth, Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth, Attempted to Believe Matilda: The effort very nearly killed her, And would have done so, had not She Discovered this Infirmity. For once, towards the Close of Day, Matilda, growing tired of play, And finding she was left alone, Went tiptoe to the Telephone And summoned the Immediate Aid Of London's Noble Fire-Brigade. Within an hour the Gallant Band Were pouring in on every hand, From Putney, Hackney Downs, and Bow. With Courage high and Hearts a-glow, They galloped, roaring through the Town, 'Matilda's House is Burning Down!' Inspired by British Cheers and Loud Proceeding from the Frenzied Crowd, They ran their ladders through a score Of windows on the Ball Room Floor; And took Peculiar Pains to Souse The Pictures up and down the House, Until Matilda's Aunt succeeded In showing them they were not needed; And even then she had to pay To get the Men to go away, It happened that a few Weeks later Her Aunt was off to the Theatre To see that Interesting Play The Second Mrs. Tanqueray. She had refused to take her Niece To hear this Entertaining Piece: A Deprivation Just and Wise To Punish her for Telling Lies. That Night a Fire did break out-- You should have heard Matilda Shout! You should have heard her Scream and Bawl, And throw the window up and call To People passing in the Street-- (The rapidly increasing Heat Encouraging her to obtain Their confidence) -- but all in vain! For every time she shouted 'Fire!' They only answered 'Little Liar!' And therefore when her Aunt returned, Matilda, and the House, were Burned. © by owner. provided at no charge for educational purposes |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 03 Dec 24 - 06:34 PM James Carville says that these lightning rod appointments are the brainchild of Tucker Carlson, not Bannon. They are deliberately designed to be abnormal and wrath-inducing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 03 Dec 24 - 01:01 PM To a liar, the most dangerous individual is the person who catches lies but doesn't say anything about it. Then the liar isn't sure which lies are compromised. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: The Sandman Date: 03 Dec 24 - 12:39 PM I do not think Trumps isolationist policies will work. I also think that his policies re drug smuggling might incur the wrath of the mafia I predict he will be assasinated |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Dec 24 - 11:34 AM Meanwhile, the pundits are going round and round about the Hunter Biden pardon. There is some virtue signalling from a few Democrats who think Biden should have stuck with his pledge not to pardon his son, because "Democrats are better than this." Those same Democrats are delusional if they think Trump would have left Hunter alone after Joe leaves office. But Jon Stewart has simply suggested the timing was the problem. Jon Stewart Thinks Biden Could Have Timed That Pardon Better “Normally, you drop a controversial pardon like the way you buy porn at a gas station: in a flurry of other distracting purchases,” the “Late Night” host said. “Thanksgiving! I knew it! Perhaps I can explain the way this pardon went down in my new one-man show, ‘Can You Get Hunter to Stop Looking at Me Like That?’” — JON STEWART |
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Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election From: Donuel Date: 02 Dec 24 - 07:38 PM Other things he could do to really piss off Trump: is silly talk. If this isn't sarcasm, it is rare that Stilly doesn't resonate with me. America reminds me that 'winter is coming' in a very Game of Thrones manner. The biggest difference is that there will be no global unification to oppose the foe be it; global climate, nuclear wars, or oppressive punishing fascism. Idiocracy may involve an assault by loyal sycophants to defund the FBI, let loose epidemics of measles and other controllable virus, and intentionally blinding Intelligence agencies to things like Putin waiting for a Trump White House to use nuclear weapons out of desperation of monumental losses. I expect the ground to shift under the feet of NBC, CNN, CBS, and independent journalists. |
