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Imaginary Friends

GUEST,Claire M (Permanant GUEST!) 26 Jul 12 - 06:53 AM
Catherine Jayne 20 Sep 02 - 04:25 AM
Jeanie 20 Sep 02 - 03:44 AM
Wincing Devil 20 Sep 02 - 01:24 AM
MAG 19 Sep 02 - 10:32 PM
Amos 19 Sep 02 - 08:11 PM
Helen 19 Sep 02 - 06:52 PM
Kim C 19 Sep 02 - 05:56 PM
GUEST,KingBrilliant 19 Sep 02 - 05:48 PM
GUEST,Uncle Metal Detector 19 Sep 02 - 05:12 PM
Rick Fielding 19 Sep 02 - 12:08 PM
GUEST,Les B. 19 Sep 02 - 11:51 AM
JenEllen 19 Sep 02 - 11:27 AM
MMario 19 Sep 02 - 11:10 AM
mack/misophist 19 Sep 02 - 11:05 AM
Uncle_DaveO 19 Sep 02 - 11:02 AM
Amergin 19 Sep 02 - 10:36 AM
GUEST,jennifer 19 Sep 02 - 09:20 AM
GUEST,JTT 19 Sep 02 - 09:05 AM
Wincing Devil 19 Sep 02 - 09:03 AM
wysiwyg 19 Sep 02 - 09:02 AM
GUEST,Morticia @work 19 Sep 02 - 07:47 AM
GUEST,Swansong 19 Sep 02 - 07:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,Claire M (Permanant GUEST!)
Date: 26 Jul 12 - 06:53 AM

Hiya,

That's really interesting about your friend, Jeanie. I had a very good imagination, full of pixies and castles and witches and elves (but not 700 of the latter, thankfully)

Now more often than not there is a singer in the stories I write who leaves you "spellbound, and people drinking enormous quantities of ale, and the lead character always has a disability as do I.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 04:25 AM

I had a bright red dragon as my imaginary friend and when my dad bought a mini I was upset because I thought my dragon wouldn't be able to fit in it!!!

Cat


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Jeanie
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 03:44 AM

I was born with a stillborn twin sister, and although I wasn't told "officially" about her until my teens, I *always* knew. We used to skip along the pavement side by side, and sometimes she would run ahead, and I was always so happy when she was around. Even earlier memories than that are of my friends "Gang" and "Mato" (pronounced mah-to - in reference to the tomato/tomahto thread !)These were kind of elf people, about one foot tall, and I saw them as clearly as I saw anything else. Gang was black and spiky and used to turn up when I was in a bad mood. Mato had a red hat. He was the "good guy", and I used to make room for him to sit next to me in my pushchair. A bit later, when I was about 4, a wonderfully flamboyant lady called Dornis Tremenda came on the scene. Whereas Gang and Mato, and my twin, were totally real, I remember that Dornis started out being real, but I then rather enjoyed elaborating on her.

My daughter had a whole troupe who used to follow us around, who were called "The Daties". They used to drive along behind us in their caravan, which they then parked outside our house. She used to get up in the night sometimes to look out and check that the daties were still there.

I'm very interested in the post that started this thread: Swansong's 3 year old daughter singing very old songs taught by her "imaginary" friend. I never sang old songs, but a lot of the "made-up" words I used as a small child, were, it turns out, Berlin dialect words. I was born in Britain, with no connections with German or Germany. German always came amazingly easily to me, and in translation exams at school and university (which in my day were always without dictionaries) I was always right in my "hunches" of the meanings of unfamiliar words. I wonder if this is some kind of tapping in to a collective unconscious, and if this is what is happening with Swansong's daughter ? Fascinating.

This has become rather a long post, but I must also add here a poem written by my seriously disabled but fiercely independent friend Claire. One of the most moving performances I've ever seen was Claire reading this poem about her imaginary friend Susan, who was her helpmate and lifeline as a lonely, disabled child:

Susan was a pretty girl

With shoulder-length blonde hair,

Bright and vivacious,

She didn't have a care.

Susan was all I wanted,

And wasn't at the time,

She helped me see I had a life,

I wasn't marking time.

I thank the Lord for Susan,

Though she is now set free.

She was never real -

Only imaginary for me

To cure a sense of loneliness,

But now I am so glad

I need Susan no longer,

For by God's strength, I stand.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 01:24 AM

How do we know that children's "imaginary" friends aren't there? Maybe growing older, kids get more cynical, and start to ignore their I.F.'s...


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: MAG
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:32 PM

Margie Adam:

When I was growing up,
My best friend was a unicorn
The others smiled at me and called me - crazy

But I was not upset
By knowing I did not conform
I always knew their thinking must be - hazy

The unicorn and I would while away the hours
Dancing prancing and romancing in the wild flowers
And we'd sing ...

Seeing is believing - in the things you see;
Loving is believing in the ones you love (repeat)

Two more verses. I'll find 'em and post 'em if you want. Must be other Margie Adam fans out there ...

And no, I didn't have imaginary friends; I just talked to my dolls in the full expectation that they would answer me back.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Amos
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:11 PM

The problem is not that we have imaginary friends. What worries me is trhat we may be their imaginary friends.

And if they grow up, and concern themselves only with what is real (to them), we may thereby lose our ability to cross over. We'd be just sort of solid, meat-headed, dead-of-mind mechanisms shorn of life energy...

Come to think of it....


:>)


A


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Helen
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:52 PM

My imaginary (well, so everyone else said) friend was called Betty. Betty did lots of things, but I often got into trouble for it even though I told Mum & Dad that "Betty did it!".

I can't say for sure what the explanation is, but I am psychic, and I seriously suspect that she wasn't just in my imagination.

I dreamt about her once when I was in my 20's and she was dressed in a pinafore of the fashion close to the turn of the century (1900's) and our house was furnished and painted in the style of that era as well - which is when it was built. So, I lean more and more towards the belief that there was someone there, although in spirit rather than flesh.

I am not quite sure when Betty arrived, but I think that it was when my sister went to school and I was left at home. My sister and I are less than a year apart in age and were inseparable, and more like twins.

One of my favourite films is Frop Dead Fred, partly because it is really funny, partly because it has a serious psychological side to it, but mostly because it deals with imaginary friends in a nice way.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Kim C
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:56 PM

I don't remember having imaginary friends myself, but...

My friend Lisa told me that her little girl, Grace, talks about her "other brother." Well, Grace only has one brother. What that means, I don't rightly know. I have heard, though, that children aren't as far removed from the Veil as we adults are, for those of you who believe in such things.

Some of you in the US may have seen a story on 48Hours or one of those new programs, about a 4-year-old girl who got lost hiking with her grandparents. They did find her, alive and well (albeit hungry), but in an unlikely spot. She had to navigate some nasty rocks and water. They asked her how she did that, and she said, "My friend helped me." She was very matter-of-fact about this.

She said her friend was a little girl named Alicia, or something like that. It turns out that a little girl with a very, very similar name had got lost and died in that area many years ago. I'm not making this up.

Anyway, it gave me the willies. I think we should not pooh-pooh the little ones' invisible playmates. What is that verse in the Bible about entertaining angels unaware?


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,KingBrilliant
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:48 PM

I had an entire world that I used to visit. Unfortunately it was called "PoofyLand", much to the amusement of my family. It completely disappeared the day my sister "helpfully" drew me a map of it (how she imagined it). I never found my way back there, though I tried and tried. sob.
later on I had a huge colony of multicoloured "ants" that went everywhere with me. It drove my parents mad when they had to wait until all my ants had got in before they could shut the van doors. I very genuinely saw these ants, and I think it was probably a vision problem.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,Uncle Metal Detector
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:12 PM

Fibula Mattock used to have an imaginary horse called 'Bokells Cokells'that jumped over the sea to London and then to America.

maybe I shouldn't have disclosed that piece of information - ooops!! sorry Fib.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:08 PM

Apparently I had two very important imaginery friends when I was quite young. One was 'Georgie' and the other "Doight" (!!). My mother told me that I wrote Doight's name down several times, so they knew the spelling. Simply can't figure where the name came from....apparently the character was female. I used to draw endless stories with these two characters in the lead, on hundreds of sheets of paper.

I used to have animated conversations with them as well, and was later told that this wasn't unusual for confused creative kids.....or perhaps I was (am) just friggin' nuts!

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,Les B.
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:51 AM

One of the best lines I've heard recently is - "Religious wars are fought by groups of people claiming to have the best imaginary friend!"


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: JenEllen
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:27 AM

I'd pondered long and hard about getting another dog to keep company with the one I have already, but I just wasn't prepared to go through puppy-training again. Problem solved: Got the dog an imaginary friend named "Buck".

I highly recommend it. No extra food, no extra mess, and whenever anything goes wrong; "Buck did it." Only problem being that the dog seems to be falling for it. You ask: "Where's Buck?" and he looks longingly out the back window. Buck is out chasing rabbits and answering the call of the wild. Buck is out knocking over garbage cans. Buck is out peeing on the tallest trees in the forest.....


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: MMario
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:10 AM

I don't think any of my sibling or cousins had imaginary friends that were individual - but we had several collective ones.

Pamplemousse - the most active - has entertained two generations and I suspect will last at least into the third.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: mack/misophist
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:05 AM

All my friends are imaginary. Who else would talk to me?


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:02 AM

My son Ted (now 35) when he was a little one (maybe 3? 4?) had a friend named Nammy, whom we could never see. Nammy did this, Nammy did that, Nammy didn't like this, Nammy was crazy about that. No ancestral song-memory or "spectral television" in a speaker, though.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Amergin
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:36 AM

i have one....i call him george..


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,jennifer
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:20 AM

The first time my son heard Maddy Prior he would have been coming up to three - he said "that lady's dancing in Daddy's speaker, she's a big singer and a good dancer" which is a pretty good description and we hadn't told him because we'd only first seen her the night before. He also recognised John Tams and called him "Tam" before I ever knew JT was called that. But singing songs out of folk memories is way spooky, I'm impresssed. Jennifer


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:05 AM

My imaginary friends don't talk to me any more - they prefer to talk to *their* imaginary friends.


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:03 AM

What do you mean imaginary, and why just children? My friend "Honest Jock Matlow" isn't imaginary, he's invisible! (Oops, make that "Visibility Impaired")


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:02 AM

Are you sure she isn't talking about a Mudcat pal?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,Morticia @work
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:47 AM

My daughter had an 'imaginary'friend who she saw from about a year old at whom she would laugh, point and babble ,needless to say I couldn't see them.A little young to make things up, I thought.


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Subject: Imaginary Friends
From: GUEST,Swansong
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:12 AM

My three year old daughter walks around the house singing songs and laughing to herself, when I ask her where she heard the songs, she replies from Jessica. Jessica is her imaginary friend. Some of the songs are quite good, others ar actual songs that my parents remember their parents singing and haven't heard since childhood. STRANGE! has anyone ever experienced similar imaginary friends like this in kids.


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