BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 09:53 PM

roflmao...i like that....

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Peace
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 06:46 PM

Is there gonna be a postal war in Iraq? Sorry, I know this is serious stuff, but ya know? I think about US 'policy' in Iraq and I want to wear my t-shirt that says, "I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't stick my head that far up my ass."

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 03:52 PM

i thought the war had to be over before they could implement a postwar plan....

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 03:14 PM

Methinks that Bush has a major problem with what might be called "Wile. E. Coyote moments." This is when Wile E. Coyote is concentrating so hard on the chase (motivated by his single-minded "I want! I want!") that he doesn't realize that he's run off the edge of the cliff and is standing in mid-air. He's fine until he suddenly realizes that something is not quite what he thought it was. The "moment" comes when he looks down.   And then. . . .

But you've got to hand it to him. As Bush hurtles toward the canyon floor, his (or somebody's) mind is working, and by the time he hits bottom with a resounding splat, he has managed to spin it into a policy statement, saying that this is what he planned all along. After all (he sees in retrospect), it is the fastest way to get down from the cliff.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 12:38 PM

Molly Ivins: "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid. "


Bears repeating, I think.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 12:28 PM

They kept Vietnamising things in Vietnam, didn't they? Didn't work.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 11:20 AM

Sha Boom, Sha Boom
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Sha Boom, Sha Boom
Yadada-Yadada-Yadada-Yadada
Sha Boom, Sha Boom
I wish this was a dream, Sweetheart.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 10:09 AM

Yes, it appears that the Bush administration is now preparing the ground to withdraw from Iraq by the spring, in order to save themselves from being booted in the '04 election.

Ironic isn't it, that they purportedly invaded Iraq to free the country from a nasty dictator, and that instead of the promised land, we will leave them instead with martial law, chaos, and a shitload of petty dictators, warlords, and an out of control militia?

Talk about making things better for the US in the Middle East! This is a stroke of fuckin' genius, ain't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 09:36 AM

Well said then, Metchosin, and it is still the case. Actually, they had *their man* but they just didn't keep him in the fold. It wasn't Saddam's choice to get left out of the loopm but the US's. He tought he had a wink from Bush One to take Kuwait only to find that he'd been lured into a trap... One from which he would no escape... Why? I don't have a clue... But he was very much *our* man...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Metchosin
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 02:39 AM

Some de ja voodoo in response to Troll in my post from last March perhaps?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 12:07 AM

This is Molly Ivans take
http://www.workingforchange.com/printitem.cfm?itemid=15990

Mr Ed:

Stay the course
reverse the course
but say its the exact same course of course
unless of course you feel remorse
for the nameless GI's dead




They say the glass is half full
we know its a pile of bull
the glass is cracked
from all the attacks
and walter reed hospital's full

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 11:04 PM

Pdc, it also reminds me of the situation between Israel and Palestine. The eye for an eye thing. And we all know how well that has worked for them.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 08:46 PM

I find it rather interesting that in many ways, Iraq is a replay of Viet Nam. The US went into Viet Nam with all the latest technology -- air strikes, napalm, huge numbers of huge bombs, etc. The Viet Cong used technology, yes, but also operated in small packs, with stealth, guerilla tactics, etc., nibbling away at Americans until they won the war. I believe the US went into Iraq with the same belief in high-tech bombs, etc., and Iraqis are doing much the same that the Vietnamese did, on their own turf, in their own culture. Interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 08:24 PM

Did ya see that the US is now 'planning' elections before next summer in Iraq? Planning is easy- but it would appear that conditions will have to be a LOT less volatile before that can be successfully pulled off. Not a good sign that conditions have been becoming MORE volatile, not less.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:59 PM

Bobert..I dont believe for one minute that America has any intention of pulling out of Iraq.I think Bush and his masters are playing the "pressure" game to encourage other countries to assist in the subjugation of the Iraqi people .America has invested too heavily in the effort to control oil supplies to back off now.
An extremely dangerous situation looms...Ake

Subject: BS: Bush's Latest Postwar Plan
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:34 PM

Well, danged. Here we go again. Yet another plan. What happened to the last 3 or 4? Bush's PR folks are trying to get everyone to believe this is only their *second* plan... We, who have been following this story have it officially as the 3rd and, depending on ones interprstation of new plan, maybe the 7th or 8th or...

But here's how it goes. Iraqitize Iraq! Yep, that's the latest. Screw democracy, Shoot, if it can't work in the US then why think it can work in Iraq? Right?

Well, I gotta agree with them on that one. Democracy in Iraq is an impossible goal. Like I said, if it can't work in the US than it doesn't stand a chance in Iraq.

Well, sure, I've got my ideas on what can be done in Iraq now and have suggested elements of the "Bobert Plan" in other threads but, Iz just gonna keep quiet (or try...) and let my fellow Catboxers comment...

Bobert