UK political topics 2025 1 thread only

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Apr 25 - 03:58 PM

I can see what you mean, Raggytash, but if we are going to spend time and effort to negate the negative effects of anything, surely we should concentrate on resources that are not going to run so soon?

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Apr 25 - 08:07 AM

It would seem to me that if scientific means could be used to eliminate the negative effects of burning coal, through perhaps filtration, we as a nation should consider using the resources we have, that is our coal reserves, whilst at the same time further developing alternative sources of energy.

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 25 - 07:46 AM

Clement Attlee's Labour government closed 101 pits between 1947 and 1951; Macmillan (Conservative) closed 246 pits between 1957 and 1963; Wilson (Labour) closed 253 in his two terms in office between 1964 and 1976; Heath (Conservative) closed 26 between 1970 and 1974; and Thatcher (Conservative) closed 115 between 1979
CONSERVATIVES CLOSED 387, LABOUR CLOSED 363
Nigel those are facts

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 25 - 06:30 AM

Both:
So 'getting rid of UK coal mines' is a good thing, but Maggie Thatcher doing it is a bad thing?
Some weird thinking there.

Also, as has been pointed out many times here, Wilson closed more than twice as many pits as Thatcher did.

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 Apr 25 - 01:26 AM

Dave, my post wasn’t a complaint that we no longer have a coal-extraction industry, I’m in agreement with you that we’re better without it. I was simply pointing out the delicious irony of a self-confessed Thatcher-Fanboi appealing for ‘reliable sources’ of, amongst other things, coal! You couldn’t make it up!

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Apr 25 - 11:44 AM

One of the (precious few) good things that they have done, Nigel!

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 16 Apr 25 - 07:40 AM

In the short-lived thread I responded: "Now all we need is reliable sources of iron, limestone, & coal, to keep the steel production going."

To which Backwoodsman responded: We have plenty of coal beneath us - IIRC, estimated as ~200 years’ worth - just not the means of extracting it, thanks to your heroine, the foul Witch of Grantham.

I'll now reply to that:
Until the advent of this latest Labour government there were plans for a new mine in Cumbria. They were overturned in court, and the Labour government allowed the plans to drop.

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Apr 25 - 05:37 PM

First topic linked from closed thread

Subject: RE: UK political topics 2025 1 thread only
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Apr 25 - 04:54 PM

Since it is no longer possible to post to brexit and other uk political topics, without getting message that it will not accept. I am asking for members opinions on Starmers Rescue. It seems;like a good idea to me but i have not studied his plan in detail

Subject: UK politics topics 2025 (1 thread only)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Apr 25 - 10:37 AM

We are limiting the political discussions to one per Trump and one per UK. So the thread that was started today on a specific topic is too narrow to serve that purpose. This thread will have to pick up where the other one (gets an error message about its length) ended.

If you want to see what you posted last in the other thread, take the back way in - look at your list of personal posts and you'll be able to see what you sent there.

The other one was BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3